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In the Fight Against Terrorism, Some Rights Must Be Repealed - (Hunh? Disarm us to fight terror?)
INSTITUTE FOR SOCIAL POLICY UNDERSTANDING ^ | MARCH 4, 2005 | JUNAID M. AFEEF

Posted on 03/08/2005 8:05:19 PM PST by freeholland

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To: FreedomCalls
Ahh - I thought so. With a board of directors with names like those, it's no wonder they're trying to lull us into giving up our guns. Frak that.

They're the very reason I'm working on building my personal arsenal.

81 posted on 03/08/2005 11:23:30 PM PST by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: bootless
"You are stupid with the white-hot intensity of a thousand suns..."

I can't recall where I heard it, perhaps a movie, but I recall the line, "If stupid were people, you'd be China."

82 posted on 03/09/2005 3:57:09 AM PST by stevem
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To: GeekDejure

Clever? In his own eyes, I'm sure. Not in mine, however.:-)


83 posted on 03/09/2005 4:03:56 AM PST by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: FreedomCalls
Of course terrorists would prefer a Goliad over an Alamo and hate the idea of a San Jacinto.
84 posted on 03/09/2005 4:08:25 AM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (When you compromise with evil, evil wins. AYN RAND)
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To: AAABEST; wku man; SLB; Travis McGee; Squantos; Shooter 2.5; The Old Hoosier; xrp; freedomlover; ...
"Know thy enemy" ping.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

85 posted on 03/09/2005 5:50:32 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: Jeff Head
"The idea of terrorist cells operating clandestinely in the United States, quietly amassing handguns and assault rifles, and planning suicide shooting rampages in our malls, is right out of Tom Clancy’s most recent novel."

Jeff, did you know this? Sounds like TC is ripping off your ideas from "Dragon's Fury".

86 posted on 03/09/2005 5:51:41 AM PST by Joe Brower (The Constitution defines Conservatism.)
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To: freeholland
This leads to a bigger policy issue. In the post 9/11 world where supposedly “everything has changed,” perhaps it is time for Americans to reconsider the value of public gun ownership.

I agree completely. Reconsider old policies in light of the new facts. Conclude that nationwide concealed carry is an absolute necessity. Perhaps even conclude that non-gun-owning Americans should be encouraged to take up the practice.

"Reconsider the value of public gun ownership?" Definitely. It's value has gone up substantially since 9/11.

87 posted on 03/09/2005 5:54:06 AM PST by Petronski (This is the Serengeti, heart of the Dark Continent, where Bar Codes roam free...)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact; it's a Living Document.

The CONSTITUTION is not a living document.......that is the excuse haters of the Constituion use to change the Constitution illegally.

Time to put this idea to rest.......the Constitution was written to put limits on Government......not for the Government to put limits on us....which a "living" document allows them to do.

88 posted on 03/09/2005 5:56:00 AM PST by Radioactive
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To: Joe Brower; Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
What a piece of tripe article.
89 posted on 03/09/2005 5:58:37 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: coloradan
JUNAID M. AFEEF

Is this the new Jack Armstrong, All American Boy. Sure sounds like it...NOT.

90 posted on 03/09/2005 5:58:44 AM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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To: FierceDraka
From the "article"

The idea of public gun ownership simply does not make sense anymore. The right to bear arms, as enumerated in the Second Amendment, was meant for the maintenance of a “well-regulated militia.” At the time the amendment was adopted, standing armies were viewed with a great deal of suspicion, and therefore, gun-owning individuals were seen as a protection mechanism for the public. These gun owners were also seen as guardians of the republic against the tyranny of the rulers. The framers of the Constitution saw the right to bear and use arms as a check against an unruly government. That state of affairs no longer exists.

What a load of excrement - moronic opinions stated as facts. JUNAID M. AFEEF is a complete waste of skin. He needs to be added to the "little list" from the Mikado. This guy is nothing more that a Democrat/UN/country club Republican shill

Growing your arsenal is always good.

91 posted on 03/09/2005 5:59:35 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: Archon of the East
I see you are not a subscriber to the New York times



I resent that.

92 posted on 03/09/2005 6:00:20 AM PST by Petronski (This is the Serengeti, heart of the Dark Continent, where Bar Codes roam free...)
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To: church16
Bwahahah.... Yeah, thats it, disarm us. After 9/11, they couldn't keep simple pistols on the shelves. Americans reaction to attack was to arm themselves, even if the threat was not the type you could stop with a pistol (try stopping a 757 from ramming your house with a pistol). It was, however, a logical reaction to fear.

If there is a Hillary Clinton presidency, watch the gun sales go through the roof during the transition, same as after 9/11.

93 posted on 03/09/2005 6:02:41 AM PST by JimRed ("Hey, hey, Teddy K., how many girls did you drown today?")
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To: Jeff Gordon

That's a good'un. LOL


94 posted on 03/09/2005 6:03:20 AM PST by Petronski (This is the Serengeti, heart of the Dark Continent, where Bar Codes roam free...)
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To: Joe Brower
The idea of public gun ownership simply does not make sense anymore.

It makes PERFECT sense if you think our malls are going to be targets.

The idea of LAWFUL gun owners packing while in a mall would, seem to me, greatly reduce the risk of an all out blood bath if terrorists decide to going on a killing spree.

It would make sense to me that those packing would try to stop or at least hold off the bad guys until the cops got there.

95 posted on 03/09/2005 6:04:18 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: OXENinFLA

This article is a load of BS

If I wanted to live like europe ... I'd move there


96 posted on 03/09/2005 6:06:41 AM PST by Mo1 (Question to the Media/Press ... Why are you hiding the Eason Jordan tapes ????)
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To: Laz711
This guy has no idea what he is talking about. The majority of the US military wouldn't go agianst the US population, mainly because they are taught to THINK FOR THEMSELVES. The armed American population would not have to face the military, this guy is just writing propaganda for the liberals in large cities who feel threatened by little old ladies with guns.

That's also why the military takes an oath to "support and defend the constitution." Also, that's the purpose of the National Guard. Their allegience is supposed to be to the state. If the situation in the US got bad enough to warrant a civil uprising, the military would be bound to support the constitution.

97 posted on 03/09/2005 6:08:31 AM PST by mbynack
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To: freeholland

So basically, this guy says we are susceptable to terrorists attacking with firearms and his solution is to disarm us??? Is this guy smoking guano or somthing?

There is no way in hell I will give up my right to keep and bear arms. ESPECIALLY if there is a risk of terrorists making attacks with firearms. I want every chance of fighting back that I can get.

If terrorists are amassing arms, then any sane citizen of the US should be doing the exact same. It's not like the police or military is able to protect us if an attack does occur. Nothing against them but all they'll be able to do is count bodies and shell casings.

Some people shouldn't breed... the author of that toilet paper is one of them.

Mike


98 posted on 03/09/2005 6:15:44 AM PST by BCR #226
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To: freeholland
Interesting group of "Scholars" with David Bonier among its Advisors.
99 posted on 03/09/2005 6:25:44 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: freeholland; Joe Brower
Sounds like the author should run the TSA. Disarming the public is soooooo September 10th.

I'm sure there are plenty of cases where good work by our security agencies has thwarted enough terrorist threats that if we knew, we'd all be huddled in a corner of our gas-proof rooms quivering and crying. But what we do know about are the many instances where the public has taken security into their own hands starting with the "Let's roll" heroes on the 4th plane. I have personal knowledge of at least one in-flight incident where a foreign-looking and somewhat inebriated airline passenger tried to light a cigarette and was quickly subdued by his fellow passengers. (of course, I'm assuming it was because of the flame and not their fear of second-hand smoke).

No, anybody taking a close look at the world after 9-11 would be arming the 95% of us that understands we're the first line of defense (ok, maybe last line of defense is more appropriate). The hand-wringers are so afraid of a would-be terrorist getting weapons through legal means that they forget about that lesson. Oh yeah, they also forget that terrorists aren't adverse to using illegal channels.

100 posted on 03/09/2005 6:28:04 AM PST by NonValueAdded
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