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Nice jeans. But should you really wear them to the opera?
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | 3/9/05 | Kim Campell

Posted on 03/09/2005 9:47:25 AM PST by qam1

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To: VermiciousKnid

We just have a lot of gang activity in certain areas and my husband loves to make those arrests - he can't stand the gang bangers.

Don't get me wrong, my husband is like a gazelle - he always catches them, but they do shed their clothes as they run, right down to their birthday suits! Especially in the summer - if they are hot and sweaty the gangsters know it is harder to cuff and subdue a sweaty wiggling naked man.

YUK - bad mental image!


161 posted on 03/09/2005 1:24:35 PM PST by Cathy
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To: petitfour
Oh. Larry King?

Not much of a source.

Have you ever noticed how those that say they don't care about appearances care when you criticize their appearance?

162 posted on 03/09/2005 1:25:20 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: StrictTime

Black rockies are fine with me, and I'm in Dallas.


163 posted on 03/09/2005 1:25:34 PM PST by Melas
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To: antoninartaud
Respecting the dignity of the Office of the POTUS is appropriate; respecting the "dignity" of the opera is merely pompous. It's just an old musical in a foreign language, usually with a hackneyed plot and some 52 year old diva pretending to be an 18 year old ingenue with consumption.
164 posted on 03/09/2005 1:26:14 PM PST by LexBaird ("Democracy can withstand anything but democrats" --Jubal Harshaw (RA Heinlein))
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To: Modernman

Jeans are appropriate dress for a Texas funeral.


165 posted on 03/09/2005 1:26:59 PM PST by Melas
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To: Chena
Yes, you have the right to criticize someone for what they are wearing. Does that make you nice? Prolly not. Would it please God? Prolly not. We have the right to say and do many things, but that doesn't make it "right". But hey, that's just me. lol

Sometimes, it is neither "nice" nor "right" to refrain from offering criticism. For instance, I would be negligent as a parent not to criticize my child's choice of clothing if it were inappropriate for the occasion. (Of course, it would be wrong to criticize him in a way that would cause him embarrassment.)

166 posted on 03/09/2005 1:27:25 PM PST by Logophile
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To: ravingnutter
Well, then we're even...I never expected to find so many snobs on here.

It's not snobbery. No one is saying you have to wear Armani suits or Prada dresses. A pair of khakis and an oxford shirt are not much more expensive than jeans and a t-shirt. You can get a decent suit for a couple of hundred bucks.

This has nothing to do with money. Rich people can be uncultured snobs while working class people can know exactly what is appropriate in a given situation.

167 posted on 03/09/2005 1:27:53 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: rabidralph

From the description of your outfit I sure hope you're a girl! :^)


168 posted on 03/09/2005 1:28:41 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Melas; Xenalyte
Jeans are appropriate dress for a Texas funeral.

I'll let the two of you settle this one. Blunderbusses at twenty paces, perhaps? :-)

169 posted on 03/09/2005 1:30:09 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: Tamar1973
Now, I attend a congregation that appreciates the fact they should conduct themselves before G-d at least as well as they would before the Pres. of the USA or HRH Queen Elizabeth.

In most circumstances, while meeting the president (excluding formal dinners etc) I'd wear jeans. After all, while he is a great guy and the best Pres we've had he's still just our employee

While meeting the Queen I'd wear jeans. She's a foreigner and her presence does not automatically deserve dress clothes

170 posted on 03/09/2005 1:30:49 PM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Chena

If he is wearing a $140 pair of jeans going to an expensive Opera (which is what the article is about), chances are he is not wanting for money and could easily afford some decent clothes. They don't have to be designer label or anything (that is being a snob), but apporiate attire for the occasion.

But it seems pretty obvious that the man in your story couldn't afford better. I'd never hold that against him.

But some guy appearing that way driving a BMW or going to a $200 a person dinner? Yes. He is a slob IMO.


172 posted on 03/09/2005 1:31:50 PM PST by Betis70
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To: Logophile

"One of the purposes of clothing is to communicate."


HUH? You know that never occurred to me. Maybe it's because I communicate with my words and deeds, not with my clothes. I've never thought that my clothes could do the "talking" for me. My husband would probably like it if they did! Sure be alot quieter around here. LOL

Ok, I know you're quite serious so I apologize for my laughing about that statement. Maybe I'm just too much of a simple lady. I know there are women (and men) who dress to impress, but you know what? It doesn't impress me. I like dressing up as much as the next person, but I certainly wouldn't want to be judged by what I'm wearing. Heck, I could wear a formal gown and some hoity-toit would judge me on the style I chose or the color and come away believing that I was somehow not as good as they are.

I remember some of the snooty women in our church. I swear they acted as if the biggest thrill they got out of Sunday service was gossiping about what some other folks were wearing. Shameful.

As for the other part of your post, it's mixing apples & oranges. Yes, if one wants others to understand what they are "saying" or "writing", punctuation, and speaking skills are important. If someone chooses to not use punctuation, etc., then they are choosing to make it difficult to be understood.


173 posted on 03/09/2005 1:32:42 PM PST by Chena
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To: John O
While meeting the Queen I'd wear jeans. She's a foreigner and her presence does not automatically deserve dress clothes

Well, I guess they really don't teach etiquette anymore.

It really is sad just how much the hippie ethos has sunk into American culture.

174 posted on 03/09/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: HIDEK6

The source was not Larry King, but one of his guests. I think it was Merv Griffin who told the story.


175 posted on 03/09/2005 1:33:09 PM PST by petitfour
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To: Chena

Tell your son that if he doesn't want to get judged by his tattoos, he should cover them up when he's not among friends. Duh, is that really so hard?

Did he get tattooed for him? Or did he get tattooed to make some kind of statement? Guess what? He's making a statement all right! And people are judging him accordingly.

I'm at work right now. If you saw me, you'd think I was an average Joe, stepping out of the Lands End catalog. At 5:30 when I go to band practice, or to the tattoo shop to shoot the breeze, will be another story.

And save the "of all people, you should know better" speech, cause I've been there, done that. I've had people look at me when I've gone to the store in short sleeves. I've flown cross country with my friend who owns a tattoo shop and has tattoos on his neck and hands. He makes $150 an hour and $150,000 a year CASH and people still treat him like he's felonious parolee. I don't like to be looked at like a circus freak and I don't like "show and tell" about my tattoos, so when I go out I wear long sleeves.

There's a time and a place for everything. It's not unChristian to look at a guy wearing a hat in a restaurant like he's a dolt, because indeed he's acting like a dolt. The same goes for other similar situations.

From a guy with 2 "sleeves" and a "half-sleeve".


176 posted on 03/09/2005 1:35:07 PM PST by t_skoz ("let me be who I am - let me kick out the jams!")
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To: Chena
HUH? You know that never occurred to me. Maybe it's because I communicate with my words and deeds, not with my clothes.

Whether you realize it or not, you do send a message based on what you wear. Going back to the President Bush example, by wearing a suit and tie at all times in the White House, he communicates his respect for the dignity of the office. President Clinton, on the other hand, would wear shorts and a t-shirt in the White House. We all know how highly he valued the dignity of his office....

178 posted on 03/09/2005 1:36:23 PM PST by Modernman ("Normally, I don't listen to women, or doctors." - Captain Hero)
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To: petitfour
I bet he made it up.

Category: If it isn't true, it should be ... etc.

179 posted on 03/09/2005 1:36:32 PM PST by HIDEK6
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To: Cathy

You are obviously a very nice person, and a wonderful mother. I got a good chuckle over your post. That picture your took of your kids and the cousins is bound to be enjoyed for many years to come.

When our boys were in highschool, they were into dying their hair. They weren't into the bright colors, they just both wanted to be blondes. One year the entire hockey team died their hair blonde. What a hoot that was! We were playing in another town one weekend when I overheard a parent remark that she had never seen such a town full of blondes. LOL They, like most of their highschool friends, had their fun with the fad, and then moved on.


180 posted on 03/09/2005 1:38:24 PM PST by Chena
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