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Senate Passes New Bankruptcy Legislation [74-25]
AP ^ | March 10, 2005 | MARCY GORDON

Posted on 03/10/2005 4:06:42 PM PST by West Coast Conservative

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To: PeterFinn
Banks should also be held responsible for handing out depositors and shareholders funds to people with spotty credit.

You're absolutely right.

21 posted on 03/10/2005 4:16:15 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: PeterFinn
Banks should also be held responsible for handing out depositors and shareholders funds to people with spotty credit.

They are to the extent they lose money doing so. Why do you think the people with 'spotty credit' pay such high rates?

22 posted on 03/10/2005 4:16:25 PM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: West Coast Conservative

Crap, there goes my life for the next two years. I work in the world o'bankruptcy administration. arrrrrrrrghhhhhh.


23 posted on 03/10/2005 4:16:59 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: montag813

How so?


24 posted on 03/10/2005 4:17:14 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: RobFromGa

yeah....like this is going to make any of those prices and fees come down.


25 posted on 03/10/2005 4:17:36 PM PST by stylin19a (The moose always rings twice....)
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To: montag813
this lousy MBNA-purchased bill

You've got that right.

26 posted on 03/10/2005 4:18:11 PM PST by Finger Monkey (H.R. 25, Fair Tax Act - do the research, contact your legislators, get this puppy passed.)
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To: PRND21
Go Personal Responsibility Go

88% of bankruptcies are filed by families in which (1) the wage earner has died, (2) The wage earner has suffered a serious illness, or (3) the wage earner has lost their job and is over 50 (not always so easy to get a new job when youre over 50, especially if you have no race or gender card to play).

Rah Rah Rah! Let's take their homes away! Hooray!

Gotta love a government that sticks it to the most unfortunate American citizens on paid behalf of a corporate entity (MBNA), and given $350 million to a foreign organization (Palestinian Authority) to form a terrorist state.

Hooray!

27 posted on 03/10/2005 4:18:33 PM PST by montag813
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To: Gunslingr3

Theoretically, the credit card companies should operate in the same way... lend to people with lousy credit, risk getting burned. But I guess it was less expensive to buy passage of this bill than to act responsibly.

I love how the responsibility-cheerers here think that corporations should bear no responsibilty for their actions, only individuals.


28 posted on 03/10/2005 4:19:19 PM PST by thoughtomator
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To: OneTimeLurker
What part of corporate law do you not understand? Are you a 3rd grade sleeper? Corporations go bankrupt all the time to restructure. It has nothing to do with limited liability. LLCs also go bankrupt.


You obviously didn't understand what I was saying . You cannot enforce debts against a LLC after a certain point as the stockholders are free to walk away and invest the rest of there money elsewhere . They cant be called in the future to pay back the LLC's debt. . Personal debts however can be paid by future earning of the individual .
29 posted on 03/10/2005 4:21:05 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: montag813

"Bad day for America and the GOP that this lousy MBNA-purchased bill was passed by the Senate."

MBNA are no better than shylocks. If you are late once in 5 years, they raise their interest rates to 28.99%. This is a bad bill, and FReepers are cheering for it. MBNA would slit FReeper throats for a dollar.


30 posted on 03/10/2005 4:22:02 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: montag813

You sound like you've bad a bad experience with MBNA. Where did those statistics you cite come from?


31 posted on 03/10/2005 4:22:15 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Pajama Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: montag813

88% of bankruptcies are filed by families in which (1) the wage earner has died, (2) The wage earner has suffered a serious illness, or (3) the wage earner has lost their job and is over 50 (not always so easy to get a new job when youre over 50, especially if you have no race or gender card to play).

Rah Rah Rah! Let's take their homes away! Hooray!

Gotta love a government that sticks it to the most unfortunate American citizens on paid behalf of a corporate entity (MBNA), and given $350 million to a foreign organization (Palestinian Authority) to form a terrorist state.

Hooray!



You are a damn moron !


32 posted on 03/10/2005 4:22:19 PM PST by newfarm4000n (God Bless America and God Bless Freedom)
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To: stylin19a
yeah....like this is going to make any of those prices and fees come down.

This will allow some companies to offer lower fees and rates to their customers in order to increase their business and gain a larger market share. It is called competition.

This bill reduces the cost of doing business for people who extend credit to others, and it will be passed on to the consumer of credit. Companies that do not pass the savings along will lose market share to companies that do.

Each of us has an obligation to teach our kids how to use credit wisely. It is one of the most important financial lessons that they need to learn if they are to have successful lives.

33 posted on 03/10/2005 4:22:38 PM PST by RobFromGa (Bush Needs to Stay Aggressive in Term 2)
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To: montag813
"Bad day for America and the GOP that this lousy MBNA-purchased bill was passed by the Senate."

I agree with you. It's a bad bill. It's a shirking of responsibility. They didn't deal with the abusive tactics of the credit card companies.

34 posted on 03/10/2005 4:23:16 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: PeterFinn
But will it be harder for corporations and businesses to file bankruptcy?

I doubt it. Those companies who want to will still hire the high powered lawyers to help them plan their bankruptcy to their maximum benefit.

35 posted on 03/10/2005 4:23:50 PM PST by FreePaul
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To: montag813

"88% of bankruptcies are filed by families in which (1) the wage earner has died, (2) The wage earner has suffered a serious illness, or (3) the wage earner has lost their job and is over 50 (not always so easy to get a new job when youre over 50, especially if you have no race or gender card to play).

Rah Rah Rah! Let's take their homes away! Hooray!"

You are absolutely correct, proving once again that in spite of the intelligence of the average freeper, many have bought into this MBNA propaganda.


36 posted on 03/10/2005 4:25:26 PM PST by international american (Tagline now fireproof....purchased from "Conspiracy Guy Custom Taglines"LLC)
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To: DannyTN; montag813

When I was an ignorant kid, I signed up for almost ever credit card offered to me. That was MY fault, not that of "predatory credit card companies." What would you advocate, the return of usury laws? Please explain.


37 posted on 03/10/2005 4:26:04 PM PST by Clemenza (Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms: The Other Holy Trinity)
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To: international american

YOU PAY....not the companies, not the government, not Tinker Bell....YOU


38 posted on 03/10/2005 4:26:09 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: Gunslingr3

I used to work at a collection agency as a network admin and I used to pull credit and legal reports on debtors. It amazed me how people with judgments, garnishments, and write-offs could easily get credit cards from companies like Providian.

Providian, as you might recall, had to file bankruptcy when it had written too much bad paper. This is exactly what I mean when I ask if corporations will abide by the same standards their customers will have to abide by.

If Joe Deadbeat can't readily file bankruptcy then neither should the bank that issued him credit.


39 posted on 03/10/2005 4:27:01 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: newfarm4000n

Well that was a snappy comeback.


40 posted on 03/10/2005 4:27:10 PM PST by mcg1969
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