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To: HankReardon
Don't be duped/distracted by all the pro/con discussion on SS.
The Fed has many sources of revenue & many line items to fund.

SS is but 1 of them...& the only 1 where the inflow/outflow can be directly ID'd.

Insolvency by 2042 , etc ??? what BS.
If the Fed needs money, they can sell something, or not build something.
All this "reform" discussion, to what end ?

6 posted on 03/10/2005 4:42:02 PM PST by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: TheOracleAtLilac

To what end?

What sort of person are you to ask such a question?

The "end" is to end theft.


9 posted on 03/10/2005 4:51:24 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: HankReardon; TheOracleAtLilac
"The Fed has many sources of revenue & many line items to fund."

"If the Fed needs money, they can sell something, or not build something."

Perhaps, but the trend has always been for the Gov't to acquire more 'Assets' and lock them up (Example - Expansion of Wilderness Areas) or expand spending on ever more expensive and intrusive programs (Medicare/Medicaid among a few). I don't see this mindset changing anytime soon since the constituencies of these Programs will not permit any retrenchment and will, IMO, actually fight for even more expenditures. Similarly, I don't envision a Gov't Asset Sale to fund any needs.

"Insolvency by 2042 , etc ??? what BS."

By most any pension accounting protocol the System is virtually bankrupt now. The present value of future benefits greatly exceeds the amounts retained as accumulated surpluses over the past 70 or so years of the program. If you doubt this, just stop everything in place right now, take no new participants in AND do not make ANY further contributions. Then simply pay out the benefits that all existing participants have vested and you'll see this fact in action.

The only way to bring it into balance is to 1) Increase the age at which benefits begin (i.e., reduce the future benefit payout) or 2) Increase the funding rate to make up for the shortfall (i.e., increase either the rate of tax from the current 12+% and/or increase the Cap from 90,000 to some higher number)

I could write several books on this topic but trying to do it through a keyboard on a Thread is the best we've got.

20 posted on 03/10/2005 5:09:50 PM PST by drt1
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To: TheOracleAtLilac
Exactly, since when did SS ever wind up on anyones hit list as far as budgets go, neither party would dare.
30 posted on 03/10/2005 5:17:16 PM PST by rodguy911 (rodguy911:First Let's get rid of the UN and the ACLU,..toss in CAIR as well.)
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