Skip to comments.Nebraska Lawmakers Restore Felons' Voting Rights
Posted on 03/11/2005 10:37:19 AM PST by QQQQQ
A coalition of liberal groups is hailing the state of Nebraska for restoring the voting rights of felons.
Although Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman, a Republican, vetoed the bill on Wednesday, the state's unicameral legislature overrode his veto on Thursday by a 36-11 vote (six votes more than the 30 needed for an override).
The new law will automatically restore the voting rights of Nebraska felons two years after they complete their prison sentences or meet the terms of their parole or probation.
Right now, it takes a pardon to restore voting rights in Nebraska, but pardons aren't granted until at least ten years after a sentence is completed.
The new law is expected to affect thousands of former convicts, beginning in September.
"This is yet another great win for our democracy and the movement to end felony disfranchisement across the country," said Rashad Robinson of the Right to Vote Campaign, which assisted in the effort to let Nebraska felons vote.
The Right to Vote Campaign - a coalition that includes the ACLU, NAACP Legal Defense and Education Fund, People for the America Way and three other organizations -- said Nebraska now joins 36 other states in allowing people with felony convictions to vote.
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This is an outrage - but I guess the Dems are running out of voters.
The Dem party -- the party preferred by felons. What does that tell you?
They also get big numbers from mental hospitals and care facilities. They have been very good at harvesting those mail-in ballots. And, of course, we can never get the dead voters from them. They will have those forever.
I think most everyone deserves a second chance. People make mistakes, especially in their younger life. America is all about second chances.
I would not assume all of them are going to vote Democratic.
I wouldn't worry too much about Nebraska becoming a democratic stronghold.
Same arguments can be used to restore firearms rights to (non-violent) felons. I'm sure they'll hop right on that.
The article said there are 36 states, which allow felons to vote.
And you should be glad that this felon lives in one of them or Bush wouldn't have gotten my vote.
People can straighten themselves out, but they don't need to have the right to vote.
Next you'll be telling us that people shouldn't be put in jail for their first felony offense, give them another chance...
Will these very same theiving RATS also try to give them their 2nd Amendment rights back? Yeah, riiiiiight.
No, I won't be telling you that. Every case is different.
Does anyone know the other 35 states?
I don't agree that felons should lose the right to vote forever. If they are out of jail, haven't they paid their debt to society? And if they haven't paid their debt, why are they out of jail?
Considering all the ludicrous crap that can lead to a felony conviction, I'm not too upset about this.
Yet another victory in the leftist onslaught against the US. Now a coven of black-robed mullahs in Washington can discern a "growing plurality" among the states for felons to vote. Only a matter of time.
I have 2 cousins who have both been in prison many times, mostly for drugs, alcohol and repeat parole violations and I definately wouldn't want these guys voting, even for dog catcher.
They're both irresponsible, immature lunatics.
Both big "liberals" and Democrats of course.
Being jailed isn't paying a "debt to society". It's punishment. Just like a loss of voting rights.
This case is the same, allowing felons to vote in two years without being pardoned is the first step. Then it will go to one, then none, then felons will be allowed to vote while in prison. It is only a matter of time.
Thanks democrats, thanks a lot. /Sarcasm OFF
Mine was drunk driving. Given some of the talk about getting drunk in this forum sometimes I think it's a pretty fair bet there are a lot of future felons here as well as former.
I have to disagree on this topic. What happens if someone beaks into a family's home and the father beats the intruder to death. That father is then convicted of a felony for using excessive force. Is he to lose his voting rights upon completing his sentence?
How about all of you people out there that drive after a few drinks with your buddies. It's pure luck that you haven't been busted for a DUI..which is a felony. Are you now ineligible to vote for the rest of your life?
I don't think anyone, save God (death), has the right to take away anotehr person's vote. I know that this may lean towards Dems, but what is right is right. It is not right for any of us to take away a person's right to vote when that person has served their punishment and paid their debt to society.
I think people who are incarcerated do not get to vote. You have lost your rights while you are serving your sentence. But once you have paid your debt (which the people have decided), then you get your right to vote back.
Now the obvious retort is, "oh it's okay for a murderer to get to vote". Well, if someone has committed that heinous of a crime, then they should have a sentence that prevents them from voting.
"then felons will be allowed to vote while in prison."
Exactly. And wouldn't we just love to have the winner decided by the vote of some felons, in a narrow election.
Loss of Constitutionally guaranteed voting rights for life? That's not something I would hand out as lightly as we hand out felonies in this country. If the person is too dangerous to pick our leaders, then that person should not be out of jail.
Not to mention bogus gun laws.
"I don't think anyone, save God (death), has the right to take away anotehr person's vote."
You've got to be kidding.
The laws of the US determine people's right to vote.
The right of felons to vote was taken away for a reason -- so they don't end up determining the winner in a narrow election.
For the 0.5% of the people convicted of felony offense, who may deserve to be given a second chance to vote, you want to give a blanket permission to all those who were convicted of felonies, which includes murderers and child molesters.
The article said, that in Nebraska, after 10 years, some felons could get a pardon, then they could vote. But now any felon can vote after two years of being out of jail.
I have to agree with you on this one. I think it's a little disturbing that some people here seem to think that it's OK to have never ending sentences handed down for every "felony".
When I took the classes for my concealed carry permit, our instructor pointed out that, if we stopped at the gas station or anywhere else on the way to the range with our pistols that morning, we were guilty of a felony because we did not yet have a carry permit.
Wonder how Charlie Starkweather voted ?
I question how many of them have or will ever vote.
I agree. However, voting rights should be restored on a case-by-case basis. 1-time drunk driver? Sure. Habitual drunk driver? No way.
With the recent tragic events in Altanta, perhaps we should take another look at the rights of felons or wannabe felons.
Our thoughts and prayers are with the victims of this horrible deed.
Stop being a felon. Stop. Bad human. Stop. (hits you on nose with newspaper)
Apparently I'm beyond hope and the world will be a better place if someone comes along and prevents me from voting again. LOL
Laz- got felon
laz, whats the dif good felon, bad felon ?
And those people have paid their debt and have the same right to vote that you do. If you commit the crime, you do the time. If you then take away there right to vote, then you take away the governments right to collect taxes from that person.
Have you heard of taxation without representation? And what about those who are not convicted? Is it okay for O.J. Simpson to vote and not the guy who made a mistake and paid his debt?
As for your assertions about murderers and child molesters.. If we as a society don't want them to vote, then we surely don't want them walking around campaigning for a politician. They might convince that one person to make the final decision in a close election. So, we should make sure they are locked up forever. I'm okay with that. But if a person is convicted and does their time. When they are released, they get to vote!
I've never been convicted of anything, but if I accidentally shot someone or was arrested for DUI or killed and intruder and was convicted of manslaughter, you don't have the right to take away my right to vote once I have completed my punishment. Period.
The wacko group supporting this also supports giving illegal aliens resident status, driver's licenses and etc. We have a very small but effective group of liberals here that are really pi$$ing off some people and gettting some bills through that we just cannot understand. Its time to take back our state from these liberal whack jobs but they are like moles (trolls?). They somehow slip in under the radar and then WHAM!
Well, you know how in the old movies, the two crooks play 'good felon - bad felon'.
They start by being questioned by the cops, and the one felon gets all violent, then the other one goes, "You know, I'm worried about my partner, he's crazy. Maybe if you just stopped the interrogation, you might not get hurt."
Currently in most states (Nebraska now excepted), if you commit a felony you loose the right to vote. This is because you have committed a serious crime against society.
The penalties for the crime and the loss of this right should be considered a deterrent to crime. Loss of Constitutionally guaranteed voting rights for life?
Sorry, for felonies, that's the way it's been for a long time. Don't do the crime. Currently the Governor's and the President of the United states can restore this right
I hope that you are not asserting that those of us who support restoring a persons right to vote would agree with giving Illegal aliens any rights. Let me be clear. Illiegal aliens are not afforded any rights anywhere in the Constitution and they should not be given amnesty, a driver's license, free healthcare or anything, but a foot in the ass on the way out the door.
I support every citizen having the right to vote regardless of their past. I do not support any non-citizen's right to anything.
"Next you'll be telling us that people shouldn't be put in jail for their first felony offense, give them another chance..."
Do you think that all felons serve jail time? You should be careful, you probably committ at least one felonous offense a month and don't even know it.
Carole Ann Fugate for governor!
"The laws of the US determine people's right to vote."
Wrong. The laws of each state determine people's right to vote.
At some point, our government will make felons of us all.
"Currently in most states..."
14 out of 50 constitutes most?
"This is because you have committed a serious crime against society."
Do you consider Rush Limbaugh to be a serious criminal that should lose his right to vote?
"Sorry, for felonies, that's the way it's been for a long time."
Except the definition of felony is constantly expanding to increase the revenue generation of the CJ branch of government. What used to be a non-crime or misdemeanor "for a long time" are in many cases felonies today.
Eh? Seems to me it is the same folks, and the whole idea with the voting rights is that it takes it out of the hands of prosecutors determination. I agree a lifetime of loss is inappropriate but a line must be drawn and it seems the same liberals are in on this one as the illegal alien situation. Re that Liber Diana Shimeck (sp?).
"Have you heard of taxation without representation? "
Are you saying that non-citizens ( LEGAL residents, but non-citizens) shouldn't be paying taxes or are you proposing that they should have the right to vote?
'What happens if someone breaks into a family's home and the father beats the intruder to death.'
It might be excessive to hang his dead, bleeding body in an ornamental birch in the frontyard, but if the man of the house didn't shotgun the felon out a window while his family cowered in their bedrooms, then he's a liberal.
I don't drink and drive.
Your point about individual reformation is well taken, but I can't figure out what else you're trying to say, sorry; maybe I don't want my vote diluted by some ex-con who will probably take a Dumbocrat bribe. You wanna vote, own firearms, enjoy full citizenship rights, then behave yourself.
Viva Bush and Free Republic
Good link, just don't expect many to read it.
What I found more shocking than the fact that Nebraska had "Restore(d) Felon's Voting Rights" (which, of course is not quite what they did, when you read the story instead of reacting to the headline), was the fact that 35 other states already had some form of convicted felon voting rights restoration on the books. It occurs to me that if a felon cannot run for President, why should he/she be permitted to vote (absent exoneration/pardon)? Conversely, if a felon can vote, why should we not amend the Constitution to allow him/her to run for President?
Of course, you are right. If convicting a person of a felony is to have any meaning, there must be some method (other than simply incarcerating them) to induce a little shame or humiliation in them, and to act as a spur to cause them to want to be pardoned in order to have full rights restored (i.e. a meaningful pardon that should involve voluntary public service, and not just "good behavior"). Otherwise these ex-convicts will end up feeling self-justified and sorry for themselves like some of their friends in this thread who don't believe that "x" or "y" should be a crime in the first place.
That having been said, I'm pleased to note that this act of the Nebraska legislature does not allow incarcerated felons to vote, and that there is at least a two-year waiting period after release before the provisions of the law apply; thereby making this law not the same thing as the Federal-level Jesse Jackson/Hillary Clinton proposal.
"Except the definition of felony is constantly expanding to increase the revenue generation of the CJ branch of government. What used to be a non-crime or misdemeanor "for a long time" are in many cases felonies today."
The obvious answer to this argument is that the ever-expanding definitions of crimes is yet another problem which has to be fought and won by conservatives. It's the same liberal crowd who is reponsible for both of these failings of an effective criminal justice system. It seems to be that their agenda is to have Government do everything possible, except govern.