'Heresy' of female Jesus divides Italian town

The Telegraph ^ | 13MAR05 | Bruce Johnston in Rome

[garybob]

if you will recall, the Catholic church WROTE the bible

The Catholic church was no where around when Moses, Paul, Matthew, Mark, John, Luke, Isaiah among others wrote the Bible. Perhaps you meant to say PRINT the Bible?

for the first 1,500 years of church history, all Christians were Catholic

The Romans were busy killing Christians until the 3rd century A.D. Those same Romans started the Catholic church.

[Walkenfree]

Here's the scoop. GOD inspired the Bible, the word Catholic means Universal. We believe in the "Holy Catholic" church, which means God's Universal Church for all faiths. The first 5 books of the Bible were written by Moses. (Called the Law of Moses). Also in the Torah & the Pentateuch;
The survival manuals for the Jewish Nation. The current ROMAN CATHOLIC Church is a break off from the Jewish Nation too. Martin Luther started the Lutheran Church as a break off of the Roman Catholic Church, and on and on it goes. I don't recall them being Roman Catholic Monks?

[Larry Lucido]

This is Italy. This is an opportunity to display a young woman's breasts, nothing more.

Got no problem with that, mind you, but I think another venue would be more appropriate.

That said, I would like to see a pic of the actress.

[familyop]

But it also says that the Ten Sefirot are not considered to be separate deities (but rather, attributes of one).

I read some commentaries by rabbis after Madonna announced that she was delving into some Hollywood revision of Kabbalah study. The rabbis had written that Orthodox Jews are discouraged by some from reading the Kabbalah at all, and by others, from reading it until they have read/written the Torah (long term undertaking) and been Orthodox Jews for a very long time.

Personally, I carefully avoid any and all polytheism by avoiding all mysticism (including increasingly popular "inner light" doctrines) and spiritualism (talking to the dead, dead being omnipresent, etc.). I study, having started with "In the Beginning."

[ConservativeMind]

Remember, what I said was "multiple personalities," not "multiple Gods." So I don't see a correction here from you.

I believe all mysticism is wrong. That holds for Christians and for Jews.

The idea that there is "special, private knowledge" that God didn't want His followers to know about is perverted in itself.

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

to stage this on Good Friday seems provocative and profane

San Francisco will celebrate Easter, as will the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence (gay group).

"Come celebrate with the Sisters at their 26th annual Easter event. Fun for the whole family, including the Bonnet Contest and infamous Hunky Jesus contest."

At Christmas, there was a disgusting cover on one of the local gay newspapers - at every newsstand. It was very offensive. You couldn't not see it. These people plan and intend to be provocative and profane. They must get some secret thrill out of it.

[Free Vulcan]

There is no 'interpretation' of who Jesus was. Whether or not you believe he was God, he was a living, breathing historical figure. He cannot be a she any more than Julius Caesar, Leonardo Da Vinci, George Washington, or Bob Hope.

Who elected these people God and gave them the power to declare the particulars of historical people and events? This is not an 'interpretation' this is a bunch of self-righteous elitist jackboots dictating what our religious beliefs should be.

[little jeremiah]

Moral Absolutes Ping.

Not only is this idiot casting a woman as the MAN Jesus Christ, but she is an admitted non-believer.

Anyone who witnesses this play will have his or her faith harmed. Why even see such a piece of blasphemy?

I hope the citizens of this town who still have their hearts and wits intact turn their backs on the production, or, better yet, attend with pitchforks and torches.

Let me know if anyone wants (back) on or off this revived ping list.

Note: Atheists and blasphemers should stay away from God, holy scriptures, Jesus Christ, the holy name of God, religious holidays, religious believers, and so on. Let the atheists and blasphemers start their own traditions, plays, and so on. But no, they feel compelled to sully and destroy the religious life of others.

[familyop]

"If you will recall, the Catholic church WROTE the bible and for the first 1,500 years of church history, all Christians were Catholic."

Yes. With regards to the New Testament, and in the historical sense,... The early books of the New Testament were written in Greek by Romans and were later composed into one work in Latin. The first full or nearly full list of New Testament books was probably composed by Bishop Eusebius in the 4th Century. That, or something very nearly the same, was officially ratified during the 5th Century (under Augustine).

The first New Testament was composed by the Roman (Catholic) Church.

Paul, BTW, was a Roman citizen from Tarsis, Cilicia, Asia Minor. Interestingly about Tarsus (from a secular historical point of view), it appears from historical writings that the predominant culture there was Hellenism, and the main religion was Mithraism.

[familyop]

Yes, homosexual activists and their big sister lobby, feminists, do indulge in attacking older, pro-family religious beliefs. They've been doing so and getting the results they wanted for more than 150 years in our USA. Susan B. Anthony, praised as a good/moderate feminist by some of the most revered and popular evangelists, argued loudly in favor of the Woman's Bible as written by her friends, Elizabeth Cady Stanton and company. She expressed nothing but contempt amongst her own kind for the Bible and our Creator. Some of her friends (Henry Beecher, for one) even worked hard to turn their congregations toward committing the worst of violations (deification of the self, adultery and the like) by broadcasting dramatic, emotional rationalizations for and glorifications of the most forbidden behaviors. They often abused sympathy to promote what is wrong, as Nathaniel Hawthorne did. Feminists (men and women who are actually social romanticists) have been hard at successfully revising religious beliefs on a societal scale for a very long time.