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Iranian Alert - March 13, 2005 - The Times of London reports Israel is Taking aim at Iran
Regime Change Iran ^ | 3.13.2005 | DoctorZin

Posted on 03/13/2005 4:35:10 AM PST by DoctorZIn

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1 posted on 03/13/2005 4:35:14 AM PST by DoctorZIn
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2 posted on 03/13/2005 4:37:25 AM PST by DoctorZIn (Until they are Free, "We shall all be Iranians!")
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To: DoctorZIn

Well, let's say they take some of these facilities out for argument sake. The whole world will publicly condemn them and privately thank God someone had the cojones to do it. It's a crying shame that so much of the world is enabling Iran to become a nuclear threat. Russia supplies the hardware, and France, Germany, and Britain provide the soft power that is actually a way of running diplomatic interference to protect a clique of unwanted and despised theocratic thugs. In the meantime, Iran's discredited theocrats move forward and the NYT leaks what may be a Top Secret plan to the whole world. Is this a new low for the NYT? Nope. They've still got Walter Duranty and his Pulitzer Prize for his reports on the Ukraine.


3 posted on 03/13/2005 4:42:49 AM PST by elhombrelibre (How many days has it been since John Kerry said he'd sign an SF 180?)
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To: elhombrelibre

I'd read the article earlier and thought it was from the NYT and not the TIMES OF LONDON.


4 posted on 03/13/2005 4:47:18 AM PST by elhombrelibre (How many days has it been since John Kerry said he'd sign an SF 180?)
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To: elhombrelibre
"Is this a new low for the NYT? Nope. They've still got Walter Duranty and his Pulitzer Prize for his reports on the Ukraine."

It would be heart warming to see this on several thousand billboards throughout the country.

5 posted on 03/13/2005 4:49:13 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: elhombrelibre
Is this a new low for the NYT?

Hardly.

Best comment I heard on this subject in a previous thread was, "if Israel is planning anything you can bet the Times UK wouldn't know anything about it".

6 posted on 03/13/2005 4:50:37 AM PST by evad
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To: G.Mason

Sady most folks don't have a clue who Duranty was.


7 posted on 03/13/2005 4:55:43 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: G.Mason
I'd actually screwed up thinking this report was the NYT and not The TIMES OF LONDON. But I still think the NYT is shockingly indifferent to the truth since it won't return Walter Duranty's bogus reports on the Ukraine. Still, that's their tradition.
8 posted on 03/13/2005 4:55:58 AM PST by elhombrelibre (How many days has it been since John Kerry said he'd sign an SF 180?)
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To: DoctorZIn

The best way to handle Iran is to let the Iranian youth revolt as they watch the Middle East evolve into freedom all around them. The Mullahs cannot deny them forever, they Iranian youth are educated and love western culture. They are religious but not extremists. With all that has happened of late, I wouldn't be surprised if it was imminent.


9 posted on 03/13/2005 4:58:22 AM PST by TheForceOfOne (Social Security – I thought pyramid schemes were illegal!)
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To: mainepatsfan

Nor do they know about the man-made (i.e., Stalin made) famine in the Ukraine that killed maybe ten million people. Duranty, as I'm sure you know, praised the success of collective farming being implemented there while a famine worse than was experienced in Ireland raged. The NYT spread this filth and never has come clean on it. Instead, today the NYT spends its time trying to figure out how to sabotage the spread of freedom.


10 posted on 03/13/2005 4:59:55 AM PST by elhombrelibre (How many days has it been since John Kerry said he'd sign an SF 180?)
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To: elhombrelibre
"I'd actually screwed up thinking this report was the NYT and not The TIMES OF LONDON ... "

I had seen your post # 4 prior to posting and decided to post that anyway.

Intellectual dishonesty used against intellectual dishonesty?

Hmmmm ... I wonder what the sentence will be? Hardly a Pulitzer Prize. ;)

11 posted on 03/13/2005 5:05:15 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: elhombrelibre

Duranty was the ultimate "useful idiot".


12 posted on 03/13/2005 5:07:32 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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"Sady most folks don't have a clue who Duranty was."

True, and not to make light of it, not many are as old as we. Err ... uh ... I mean I. ;)

13 posted on 03/13/2005 5:08:17 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: G.Mason

http://www.nytco.com/company-awards-times.html

Scroll down to Duranty's award in 1932. Note the Times "statement" link on his award.


14 posted on 03/13/2005 5:11:39 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: DoctorZIn

The LA Times quoted an EU official as saying, ""There is a suspension of enrichment [by Iran] and there is the IAEA in Iran to verify the suspension, so who is in a hurry? The Iranians — to get their carrots and to get rid of the IAEA," the official said. "But we should take the time which is needed to come into a comprehensive agreement.""

I sincerely hope this "official" isn't representative of the rest. Perhaps he was joking or trying a little psychology? Or maybe he had one too many glasses of wine?

He can't be THAT gullible and ignorant.


15 posted on 03/13/2005 5:39:26 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: mainepatsfan
That was interesting, thanks.

I particularly enjoyed the ...

... "The Times does not have the award in its possession."

16 posted on 03/13/2005 5:48:44 AM PST by G.Mason ("I have never killed a man but I have read many obituaries with great pleasure" - Clarence Darrow)
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To: DoctorZIn
So in the tradition of Israeli military adventurism — the honour roll includes the destruction of Iraq’s Osirak nuclear reactor in 1981 and the raid on Entebbe, Uganda, in 1976 — Jerusalem is preparing for another daring strike.

Rescuing your nationals from terrorists with state support is "military adventurism"? Here I always thought the prime function of a nation's military was protection of it's civilian population. At least the militaries of free nations. In the others, the prime mission is protection of the rulers.

17 posted on 03/13/2005 7:25:56 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: DoctorZIn
Any air-launched attack on Iran would send Israeli warplanes over Turkey and close to Iraqi airspace, currently controlled by the Pentagon.

??? I guess these guys have a different map than the one I looked at on the CIA website. Only a flight to far northern Iran might require flying over Turkey. However the site in question, at Natanz, is in southern Iran, and the Iranian reactor is along the Persian Gulf Coast. Both locations would require fling over Iraq or Saudi Arabia.

Of course the Israelis could just launch some missiles from submarines in or near the Gulf.

18 posted on 03/13/2005 7:37:05 AM PST by El Gato (Activist Judges can twist the Constitution into anything they want ... or so they think.)
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To: DoctorZIn; Convert from ECUSA; Laffalot; SJackson; Alouette; SirLurkedalot; yonif; anotherview; ...
The operation itself sounds logical and possible.

And yet, I do have a question:
If this is true, then how did the media discover it?

The existence of a specific operation must be kept under a top secrecy, the same way as Operation "Opera" was in 1981.

This report shouldn't be taken seriously.


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19 posted on 03/13/2005 7:40:00 AM PST by IAF ThunderPilot (The basic point of the Israel Defense Forces: -Israel cannot afford to lose a single war.)
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To: IAF ThunderPilot
I Agree.

Attack plans set in stone are not easily uncovered, especially by the press. (which more often than not have the details wrong). I think this is wishful thinking by some.

The ideals of Democracy & Liberty are moving through the Middle East at a "presumed" record pace, BUT, Not at the speed of a F-16 ............

Either way, NO Doubt- Change is Coming !!!!!!

20 posted on 03/13/2005 8:00:23 AM PST by austinmark (If GOD Had Been A Liberal, We Wouldn't Have Had The Ten Commandments- We'd Have The Ten Suggestions.)
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