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Sherlock Holmes and me - (Barbara J. Stock on Ali Sina's debate w. hardcore Islamist)
RENEW AMERICA.US ^ | MARCH 12, 2005 | BARBARA J. STOCK

Posted on 03/13/2005 7:32:11 PM PST by CHARLITE

Professor Moriarty had Sherlock Holmes. Police Commissioner Dreyfus had Clouseau. Boris and Natasha had Rocky and Bullwinkle. Yamin Zakaria has me.

Who is Yamin Zakaria? Anyone who has followed my columns will remember Behold the Face of Islam and Followers of Islam: Can You See the Blood on Your Hands. Both were dedicated to, and about, the Islamic hate that is Mr. Yamin Zakaria. Yamin is a London-based writer and avowed supporter of Islamic terrorists. Consider this the third in a trilogy about the mindless meanderings of one Mr. Yamin Zakaria. Yes, you are entering the Twilight Zone. Welcome to the irrational world of Yamin Zakaria.

I have been following a debate between a rational man, Ali Sina, an ex-Muslim and owner of faithfreedom, and an irrational Islamic fanatic — Yamin Zakaria. The "debate" was a joke. Yamin never got his feet out of the starting blocks. Though he is braying like the jack-ass he is that he was victorious, anyone taking time to actually read the un-finished non-debate will realize otherwise. Even Muslims should be ashamed of his showing.

Let me ask this simple question: Do you understand, "Do unto others as you would like them to do unto you?" It's a simple concept. My children understood this "Golden Rule" when they were four years old, but this basic law in the fabric of civilized life baffled Mr. Zakaria. His Muslim mind simply couldn't grasp it. Page after page of "debate" was a calm Ali Sina explaining the concept over and over and Yamin trying to debate what it really meant. Not once did Yamin address the reason for the debate, which was for him to prove that Mohammed was a prophet from God and Islam is the only true religion and for Ali to prove the opposite. More than once Mr. Sina tried to steer the debate back on track, only to have Yamin say, wait, what about this "Golden Rule?" But what else can you say when you have no proof to put forth?

Let's examine some statements made by this rabid supporter of radical Islam and terrorism.

This from a column written by Zakaria titled, What would you rather be: Ethnic Minority, Gentile or Dhimmi: "If anything it is the Muslims that have always shown the greatest degree of tolerance." Yet, in an email to me, he made this statement: (The) prophecy of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), (is) that the end of time will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them all. Prior to that time anti-Semitism will become a virtue not a stigma!" He has even stated that moderate Muslims will have no safe haven. Now that's tolerance!

Yamin goes on to say in this same column that Muslims have "...no track records of the Islamic state forcefully converting people en masse or exterminating them." This statement would put anyone who is in touch with reality into fits of hysterical laughter! How does one explain the genocide in Sudan? The Islamic government has a policy of killing all those who refuse to convert to Islam. That is called extermination and forced conversion in anyone's dictionary but Yamin's. On average, 10,000 people a month are dying of starvation in camps in Sudan because the people have fled the marauding Islamic death squads. Then, the Islamic government blocks the food from getting to the camps. If you can't disembowel them — starve them to death. Sudan is but one example, there are many more.

The fact is, Muslims can't even get along with each other. Sunni hate Shia, Shia hate Sunni, and the Wahhabi sect hates everyone.

Another startling statement made by Mr. Zakaria is: "The recent convergences of the European countries to persecute the Muslim communities are not due to any real threats but driven by prejudice." The fact that Muslims are blowing up trains, slitting people's throats, and attacking firemen that dare enter Muslim neighborhoods to put out fires has nothing to do with people becoming intolerant of Muslims. The civilized world is expected to accept the violent and irrational behavior of Islam without question. Muslims are not expected to abide by the laws of the land or respect their host country's culture. It is their right to just be Muslim and all that encompasses. They don't have to "get along." Why? Because they feel they are above the rest of us "infidels."

Yamin's continued attacks on his debate opponent were a combination of twisted words and outright lies. In his epistle called: Freethinkers' VS Islam and the Burden of Proof, Zakaria makes the nonsensical statement: "The clearest evidence of their hypocritical and cowardly nature with pretence of being 'rational' lies in fact that they do not to elaborate on their alternative solutions as vociferously as they express criticisms of Islam and Muslims!" HUH? This is an old Yamin trick, use lots of big words to confuse the ignorant but actually say nothing at all. What did he say here? Those who try to debate with him had better not challenge him because his small, closed mind can't grasp the repetitive explanation of the "alternative solution."

I read every word of this non-debate. First, let me point out that "freethinkers" are not allowed in Islam. Second, Ali Sina made it very clear that he didn't care if people worshipped mushrooms as long as they didn't roam the world killing innocent people on the orders of the head mushroom. To put it simple enough for even Yamin to understand, Sina wanted people to simply live by The Golden Rule of life — "Do unto others..." At no time was it stated that Muslims should become Hindu or Catholic or Buddhist. They should be able to live their lives free from fear of their own religion. When that "religion" tells them to kill in God's name, and they follow that command, civilization must stop them. A six year old could understand this — but not Yamin.

While Yamin doesn't tote a gun, he uses his words to incite hatred and violence. He enshrines those that kill and urges them to kill more. Sadly, his words are eagerly posted on Islamic sites. Many of these sites don't know the real Yamin Zakaria. I do. I will continue to closely follow his hate filled rhetoric, as are others more powerful than I. From time to time I will report on his more outlandish statements. There is no way to keep him honest, but I will continue to expose his true nature — a terrorist who uses words instead of a sword. Yamin fights his wars like he debates: as a coward, hiding behind his computer screen, urging others to do his murderous dirty work.

Yamin Zakaria: "We as Muslims are obliged to support our Mujahideen; we should pray for their victory — they are our boys!"


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alisina; christians; conquest; dhimmi; faithfreedomorg; global; intolerance; islam; jews; jihad; koran; koranimals; religionofpeace; religionofpieces; sina; terror; terrorists; tolerance; trop; yaminzakaria; zakaria
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Oliver Cromwell, a religiously tolerant person!?!?!
He's the reason my family came to America. My ancestor was given a land grant by Charles the 2nd after the Restoration as restitution for the death of my ancestor's father. My ancestor was beheaded not burned at the stake and my family were not Catholic, they were Anglican. Cromwell hated them as well.


121 posted on 03/17/2005 1:48:40 PM PST by kalee (Kalee's Tinfoil Bonnets, purveyor of stylish tinfoil millinery since 2000.)
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To: kalee
Google "Cromwell and Tolerant." I suppose not going on a genocide rampage like some of his predecessors made him "tolerant" comparatively speaking.
122 posted on 03/17/2005 4:28:18 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: nopardons



Take a deep breath in...now exhale and relaxxx.


123 posted on 03/17/2005 4:42:55 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Go do your homework and don't forget yo take your Ritalin.


124 posted on 03/17/2005 5:10:45 PM PST by nopardons
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Wrong, as usual,kid.


125 posted on 03/17/2005 5:11:37 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons


Umm, I have another window open. Yes, Cromwell was unusually tolerant for his time and position of power.

Go do your own research. Just don't tell me I'm wrong when you are just ignorant of something.


126 posted on 03/17/2005 5:15:06 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: nopardons

""Go do your homework and don't forget yo take your Ritalin.""

I have off next week and no school on Fridays. Isn't that wonderful. What did you say about my ritalin?


127 posted on 03/17/2005 5:15:59 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Cromwell was not in the least "tolerant";even "for his time",kid, and I knew more about Oliver the Christmas killer than you'll ever know,long before your parents were even married.

Now go do some more research on Cromwell and his "times". Your picture is next to the word ignorant in the dictionary,pet.

128 posted on 03/17/2005 5:24:50 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons


GOOGLE it then if you do not believe me.


129 posted on 03/17/2005 5:28:04 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: nopardons


You have problems with a lot of people here. You need to chill out. You are a very angry woman.


130 posted on 03/17/2005 5:31:20 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Just because something is on line,does NOT make it true/factual.

Try reading books; you just might learn something for a change.

131 posted on 03/17/2005 5:32:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Lauralee, that's not only NOT true,it's schoolyard tactics.

You are the one who needs a great deal of psychiatric help.You're seeing that which is not there.

132 posted on 03/17/2005 5:33:43 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons


Thanks I do read a LOT.

You are an elitist. You have a haughty condescending belligerent attitude and it's a putoff. So why don't you stop trying to eat your own.

"" Just because something is on line,does NOT make it true/factual.""

Funny, I read it in a history book and THEN I read it on line.


133 posted on 03/17/2005 5:40:16 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: nopardons
Really, then explain the PERSONAL PRIVATE FREEPMAIL I've gotten warning me that you do have a problem. I've received two. And I tried to win your favor by asking you a polite question. You are so EAGER to share your knowledge when trying to rip someone apart but when it comes to polite discourse, I should do my own damn research.
134 posted on 03/17/2005 5:42:47 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

tsk,tsk,tsk.....still digging that hole,I see. When you reach magma,do let us all know.


135 posted on 03/17/2005 5:43:32 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
The only one here who has dug herself a hole is you. Go lay in it.

I am one thousand percent positive about Oliver Cromwell. And you googled it, you probably read a thing or two. And then you dismissed this historical and factual information as "don't believe everything you read on line." OH! If I were only as intelligent as YOU!
136 posted on 03/17/2005 5:46:01 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Are you aware, Laura, that google search results don't always link for truth? You need to dig deeper and research who the authors are of what you're reading. There are people in this world who desire to feed untruths to unsuspecting individuals. Just because its on a google result doesn't mean it's necessarily true.


137 posted on 03/17/2005 5:52:20 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: LauraleeBraswell; nopardons
**You have problems with a lot of people here**

Who?

138 posted on 03/17/2005 5:53:15 PM PST by mrs tiggywinkle
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To: LauraleeBraswell
Two,TWO whole Freepmails. Oh WOW! Ain't that "special"? LOL

Look,some people write to others,complaining about someone they have not been able to refute.But two lousy HATE notes,does not a simmer make; to paraphrase ( muck up even. LOL) and old saw. See swallows, if you don't get that.

You have now,once again, thoroughly high jacked a thread. CONGRATS!

And you were NOT "being civil" nor "friendly" at all,asking me a totally irrelevant query,which to answer,was both boring and illogical.

Go ask your mommy how to be "friendly",since obviously,she's never taught you that.

139 posted on 03/17/2005 5:53:44 PM PST by nopardons
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To: mrs tiggywinkle

Yes,I'd like to know that too. :-)


140 posted on 03/17/2005 5:54:22 PM PST by nopardons
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