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Who really won the Ann Coulter-Peter Beinart debate at Tufts University?
The Tufts Daily ^ | March 14, 2005 | Ashley Samelson

Posted on 03/14/2005 7:53:10 PM PST by rface

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The lesson that both debaters desperately need to learn is that the very essence of debate is objectivity. .....maybe 50 years ago this was true

sometimes you have to call a Horney Hick a horney hick.....(I was born in West Virginia ---- maybe I am a horney hick too)

I suspect that this author is writing from her heart, and is not writing for an audience, because I don't think she knows who her audience is anymore. I guess I am sorry that she is dissapointed or disillusioned. Her vision of partisian debate is way naive. I guess I am sorry to see her pristine idealism shattered

1 posted on 03/14/2005 7:53:12 PM PST by rface
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Don't let the door hit ya on what is most likely a wide load....
2 posted on 03/14/2005 7:55:30 PM PST by rockrr (Revote or Revolt! It's up to you Washington!)
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The lesson that both debaters desperately need to learn is that the very essence of debate is objectivity.

scratchin my head...isn't it subjective ?
3 posted on 03/14/2005 7:55:35 PM PST by stylin19a (I will become a Democrat on my deathbed....better one of them dies than a good Republican)
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"I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative. From this day forward I choose the path of true progress. Consider me an objectivist."

Based on reading this whole article, I think the author is full of manure. She was not a Republican if one bad speaking engagement was enough to "turn" her.

4 posted on 03/14/2005 7:56:46 PM PST by Darkwolf377 (Rs move icebergs out of the way; Ds throw deck chairs off the Titanic.)
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while the debate was feisty and witty, I was left with an overall disturbing sense of deep hatred and political regression.

The polite political debates in the vein of WF Buckley's Firing Line are ancient history, I'm afraid.

5 posted on 03/14/2005 7:57:48 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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"I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative."

Baloney alert. This "writer" would have us believe she threw an entire party and philosophy away because Coulter called Clinton a "horny-hick".


6 posted on 03/14/2005 7:58:43 PM PST by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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"I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative."



Was the writer truely conservative to begin with or is this the typical "I'm a lifelong republican.......but " shtick?


7 posted on 03/14/2005 7:58:48 PM PST by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative. From this day forward I choose the path of true progress. Consider me an objectivist.

Huh? Hell, I'm not a Republican, but why would an Ann Coulter appearance motivate a Bush supporter to lose it? Something is very, very odd about this author's motivations. Was this author operating under the assumption that Ann was some shrinking violet? This doesn't make any sense. She sounds so weak. Ann's views are news to her? Huh?

Me confused.

8 posted on 03/14/2005 7:58:52 PM PST by zoyd (I'm with the government. We're going to make you like your neighbor.)
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Anyone believe that the author actually had pro-Bush/Cheney bumper stickers and pins?

And if so, do you actually believe that she abandoned them because Ann called Clinton a "horny hick?"

If she really is the Republican voter that she claims to be, I find her lack of faith disturbing.


9 posted on 03/14/2005 7:59:33 PM PST by Vision Thing (The Surgeon General has determined that being Democrat is bad for your health.)
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Ashley, Good! I dont want you in MY Party, You cry-Baby!

How long? HOW LONG???? Have the demoRATS trashed US? You are an Ignorant Child. You haven't lived long enough to understand what ROTTEN SCUM LIberals are....

Ann Coulter is a Fantastic Speaker and She only makes those statements to enrage the arrogant elitest snobs of the Left especially in Universitys!!!! If you got upset, it only proves you are weak in your position and havent got the stomach for the real Political battles ahead...you would be better served as a whimpy sheep in the Left wing Plantation.....good luck to you...they will be serving Prozac for lunch today and then you can have a nice nap this afternoon.

Buh-Bye!


10 posted on 03/14/2005 7:59:44 PM PST by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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"Ashley Samelson is a sophomore who has yet to declare a major."

Hehehehehe...says it all.


11 posted on 03/14/2005 8:00:04 PM PST by sam_whiskey (Peace through Strength)
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"I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative.

Thats just silly. Coulter is a writer and a bomb-thrower - thats her style. Would you ditch the Dems b/c of something Susan Estrich said? LOL.

12 posted on 03/14/2005 8:00:45 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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She ripped the Bush-Cheney sticker off her door and no longer considers herself a Republican/conservative because she doesn't like the debating style of one person.

Her "conservatism" stood on shaky ground, to put it mildly.

13 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:02 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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-From this day forward I choose the path of true progress. Consider me an objectivist."

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The only viable political party that even remotely has any "objectivist" ideals is the GOP.
14 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:15 PM PST by motzman (to the funny farm, where life is beautiful all the time.....)
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"I went home that night and tore my Bush-Cheney sticker off my door, and took my Bush "Taking America forward" pin off my bulletin board. I no longer consider myself a Republican, or even a conservative. From this day forward I choose the path of true progress. Consider me an objectivist. "

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Be serious, if she was ever a Republican and ever had a Bush-Cheney sticker on her door, I'll eat my keyboard.

I've seen quite a few liberals, who pretend to be disillusioned conservatives to gain credibility.


15 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:34 PM PST by FairOpinion (It is better to light a candle, than curse the darkness.)
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...she opened with a statement referring to Clinton as a "horny hick."

But, Ms. Samelson, if Bill Clinton was not a "horny hick", then what, pray tell, was he?

Of course, it's demeaning and deeply pejorative. But isn't that what he was? How else would one characterize Bill Clinton?

16 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:36 PM PST by okie01 (A slavering moron and proud member of the lynch mob, cleaning the Augean stables of MSM since 1998.)
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Ashley has yet to declare a major, but has declared a party, in fact proclaims to have declared a party, rejected a party, and picked up another party. I'm guessing she doesn't have a clue.


17 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:49 PM PST by Imnotalib (Go Howard Dean: "We aren't changing!")
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Liberals don't like Ann Coulter because she plays by their rules.


18 posted on 03/14/2005 8:01:55 PM PST by buckeyesrule
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The lesson that both debaters desperately need to learn is that the very essence of debate is objectivity.

Actually, in trouncing the US in televised debates over and over (a few years back) the British showed that sharp humor is what wins the debate.

19 posted on 03/14/2005 8:02:01 PM PST by Chaguito
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They breed hate and further solidify political schisms. They make people cry out for censorship

She tore down her poster of Che too because she was so mad.
20 posted on 03/14/2005 8:02:23 PM PST by John Lenin (Abortion has created lots of atheists because no one wants to go to hell)
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