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In two suits, opponents of the law have prevailed so far.

Not exactly.

In another case against the concealed-carry law, filed in Hennepin County, judges ordered that churches and religious groups don't have to allow guns onto their property, which includes parking lots and rental property, and don't have to display signs against guns.

That was a temporary order only - until the case was heard. The Hennepin case is currently on hold pending the results of the Ramsey case. It's still not been argued.

No new concealed-carry permits have been issued since the Ramsey County judge's order in July.

That's simply false - permits are being issued under the old law, as they had been before the MCPPA was passed. And truth is, fewer chiefs are abusing their discretion than had been before.

The law also mandated that people with valid permits be allowed into virtually all buildings and events except where expressly banned, and the law set up a rigorous process for property owners to post signs to keep gun-carrying visitors out.

Under the old law, there was no provision by which property owners could forbid carry on their premises.

1 posted on 03/15/2005 12:54:34 PM PST by jdege
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The dozen mom march isn't gone already? Jeez. They sure recycle the exact same crap everytime. Always being proven wrong, they still go on.


2 posted on 03/15/2005 12:58:26 PM PST by G32
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As usual, most anything gun related is wrong in the MSM
news.

thanks for posting this , JD.


4 posted on 03/15/2005 1:03:20 PM PST by Rakkasan1 (Keep capitol punishment safe,legal , and rare...)
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judges ordered that churches and religious groups don't have to allow guns onto their property, which includes parking lots and rental property

Yeah, that really worked well in Wisconsin this past weekend, now didn't it?

5 posted on 03/15/2005 1:18:45 PM PST by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it.)
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"This is a matter of faith and of the right of these organizations to say that peace and nonviolence is a core part of their beliefs," Lillehaug said. "I'm proud of the way these churches have stood up for their faith."

Interesting. I don't remember reading anything in the Bible that tells me that I shouldn't defend myself or my family, let alone anything about the right to bear arms.

8 posted on 03/15/2005 1:49:05 PM PST by Egon (Mercifully unscathed by the ravages of intelligence.)
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"Minnesotans await decision on concealed-carry law"

Again, I'll say it!
The Minnesota Personal Protection Act (which is what this is all about), is NOT about concealed carry.
Concealed carry is the wrong subject when referring to this legislation and lawsuit.


10 posted on 03/15/2005 4:38:39 PM PST by Fireone (Homeland security is 10,000 rounds of ammo and 10 cords of dry firewood.)
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In the end, the law will be reinstated. Liberals can't argue its brought about a bloodbath in Minnesota. So they're reduced to the funny sight of joining with religious groups they normally despise to reduce the law's reach. Ain't love grand? (laughing)

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
14 posted on 03/15/2005 6:56:14 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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don't have to allow guns onto their property, which includes parking lots and rental property, and don't have to display signs, against guns.

Who is the judge, Franz Kafka?

18 posted on 03/16/2005 3:58:01 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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