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DEA Agent Suspended After Shooting Video Surfaces
Orlando Local 6 News ^ | March 19, 2005 | Orlando Local 6 News

Posted on 03/19/2005 7:09:30 AM PST by Mulder

ORLANDO, Fla. -- An agent with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency was been suspended after video surfaced showing the man shooting himself during a gun safety class in front of a group of Orlando fourth-graders, according to Local 6 News.

An investigation has been launched to determine who leaked the home video of the undercover DEA agent shooting himself at an event sponsored by the Orlando Minority Youth Golf Association.

Before the shooting, the agent was videotaped talking about how certain weapons are popular with rap artists.

"This is a Glock 40," the agent said on the tape. "Fifty Cent, Too Short, all of them talk about a Glock 40, OK?," he said. "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock 40."

Seconds later, the agent shot himself in the foot.

"See how that accident happened, that could happen to you and you could be blown away," the agent said after the shooting.

Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk, Local 6 News reported.

"It puts a lot of undercover agents in jeopardy if their faces are videotaped," the masked agent told Local 6 News. "His identity is burned. His identity is known as a police officer and its a potential personal safety hazard to himself as well as his family members."

The video of the shooting is posted on several Web sites on the Internet. The video shows the shooting and the agent's face.

Local 6 News did not show the entire video of the shooting because the undercover officer could be identified in some of the shots.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: badcops; bang; banglist; dea; donutwatch; governmentstupidity; leo
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1 posted on 03/19/2005 7:09:30 AM PST by Mulder
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To: Mulder

Maybe this guy should talk to gary coleman about getting a job at a rent a cop agency! lol


2 posted on 03/19/2005 7:12:22 AM PST by US_MilitaryRules (My tagline was censored.)
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To: glock rocks; Eaker; Squantos; Gilbo_3; Joe Brower; Lurker; Badray; from occupied ga; ...
It hard to imagine those fed goons being any more arrogant.

Can you imagine what would have happened to Joe Q. Citizen if he had an ND in a classroom? He'd likely still be in jail in facing felony charges.

Yet this DEA bozo is still on the job and his supervisors aren't pissed about the ND. Rather they are upset that someone taped it.

How dare one of you peasants tape one of your lords doing something incredibily negligent!

3 posted on 03/19/2005 7:12:41 AM PST by Mulder (“The spirit of resistance is so valuable, that I wish it to be always kept alive" Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Mulder
How dare one of you peasants tape one of your lords doing something incredibily negligent!

I noticed that too.

4 posted on 03/19/2005 7:18:49 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: Mulder

"His identity is known as a police officer..."

And a nut case. They don't seem concerned at all that this guy just hauled off and shot himself in the foot in front of a roomful of children. Is he going to claim disability payments now? What a bizarre story.


5 posted on 03/19/2005 7:19:26 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Mulder
I have maintained for many years that I do not want to be around any cops when firearms are being handled. The last cop I trust with guns retires this week. It is a sad day for me. In the event you find yourself near a cop with a draw weapon, get away as fast as you can, unless of course it is pointed at you and then there is only a small chance you would be hit even if they shoot at you.
6 posted on 03/19/2005 7:19:47 AM PST by mad_as_he$$ (Never corner anything meaner than you. NSDQ)
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To: Mulder

I watched the video and I whole-heartedly agree with your assessment but, I think your post was a tad too soft on the a$$hole!


7 posted on 03/19/2005 7:20:20 AM PST by Sarajevo (Sarajevo is the beginning of 20th century history.)
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To: Mulder

Mulder, do you some days just want to go back to bed and pull the covers over your head after reading stuff like this? Sometimes, I think the whole world is skewed--(or screwed!)


8 posted on 03/19/2005 7:20:34 AM PST by basil (Exercise your Second Amendment--buy another gun today!)
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To: Mulder

Schools are supposed to safe areas so no guns allowed, but the ATF and FBI carries this known unstable hair trigger weapon in to a grade school in Waco,Tx and this is how the trouble started chanches are they shot them own selves.


9 posted on 03/19/2005 7:21:12 AM PST by Ibredd
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To: jocon307
CLICK HERE TO WATCH
10 posted on 03/19/2005 7:23:09 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: basil

SEE #10


11 posted on 03/19/2005 7:23:26 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mulder

LOL well, the video is a hoot.


12 posted on 03/19/2005 7:24:58 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mulder

He can always get a job with the Atlanta PD.


13 posted on 03/19/2005 7:26:00 AM PST by Sender (Team Infidel USA)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

WOW, thanks for posting that. It would be pretty darn funny if it wasn't so scary. He really shot himself by accident? I thought from reading the article he did it on purpose. Oy, what a klutz! And whoever is shouting "Put it down, PUT IT DOWN!" when he has the assistant pick up the REALLY BIG gun, certainly had the right idea.

Desk duty looks like the best place for this fellow.


14 posted on 03/19/2005 7:30:44 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Ibredd
this known unstable hair trigger weapon

Hold on a minute! The Glock is stable as hell-- you just have to keep the finger off the trigger (like every DA revolver made in the U.S.). It isn't rocket science, but it does presume paying attention to handling the arm instead of role-playing in front of an audience.

As for a hair trigger, I haven't handled a Glock that really had one, but you can get them down to a nice pull weight if you play around with it. Even so, it's nothing like what you can do to, say, a High Standard Supermatic.

15 posted on 03/19/2005 7:32:10 AM PST by niteowl77
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To: Mulder

I posted on a week ago thread on this subject.

It's his race that kept his job. Political correctness.

Any white guy do this -- he'd be outta there.


16 posted on 03/19/2005 7:32:36 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Mulder
"I am the only one here professional enough to shoot myself in the foot with this unloaded weapon....."

Thank God that round hit him and did not ricochet off the floor, ceiling or wall and hit a child.
17 posted on 03/19/2005 7:33:44 AM PST by stm
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To: Ibredd

I carried a Glock 23 .40 cal five days a week for twelve years with out a problem. I even dropped it a few times. My advise is always carry a Glock in a holster and be careful of the trigger when putting it in the holster.


18 posted on 03/19/2005 7:34:21 AM PST by bruoz
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To: Ibredd

I carried a Glock 23 .40 cal five days a week for twelve years with out a problem. I even dropped it a few times. My advise is always carry a Glock in a holster and be careful of the trigger when putting it in the holster.


19 posted on 03/19/2005 7:35:07 AM PST by bruoz
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To: George from New England

I know what my experience around some feds showed me about their gun knowledge. I was with some sheriff's deputies at a range four or five years ago and we were shooting the police qualification course.

I was busy loading Wilson 8 round magazines for my Kimber Gold Match 1911 when an FBI agent started looking at my gun. He asked, "how do you decock it?"


21 posted on 03/19/2005 7:37:27 AM PST by Armedanddangerous (May God bless Mark Wilson, a true American hero.....)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

Is there audio? I get the video fine-but no sound.


22 posted on 03/19/2005 7:40:23 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: dcuddeback

The kids were rightfully scared when the idiot asked the other guy to bring out the rifle. Before he shot himself, it sounded like he pulled the trigger (I heard a "click").


23 posted on 03/19/2005 7:41:09 AM PST by mikegi
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To: Mulder

"Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk"

This Turkeys life is at risk every time He hauls that Glock out of the holster.
They don't want the video public BECAUSE IT IS SO EMBARRASSING!


24 posted on 03/19/2005 7:41:18 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (Let Me Die on My Feet in the Swamp)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican

bump!


25 posted on 03/19/2005 7:41:54 AM PST by F-117A
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Yes there's audio. Maybe your media player has the "mute" button depressed?


26 posted on 03/19/2005 7:42:57 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mulder
Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk, Local 6 News reported.

It would seem he is a greater risk from himself than from anyone else.

27 posted on 03/19/2005 7:43:10 AM PST by VOYAGER
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To: stm

What the H*#@ is any person, cop or not, doing with a loaded gun in a classroom? No gun should be brought into a classroom, maybe pictures if necessary.


28 posted on 03/19/2005 7:43:48 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT
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To: jocon307

How the heck did he get a job with the DEA? Maybe he used to be an informant?


29 posted on 03/19/2005 7:44:20 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Mulder

and people say God doesnt have a sense of humor.

Personally I think his arrogance and the resulting accident was God's way of dealing out a slap down.


30 posted on 03/19/2005 7:44:55 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

Well, in the audio I think he says its not loaded. And he pulls the trigger. That's the funny part.


31 posted on 03/19/2005 7:45:02 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Leatherneck_MT

God's a racist!


33 posted on 03/19/2005 7:45:19 AM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: REPANDPROUDOFIT

I have no problem with a police officer carrying a hot weapon into a school, it's his job. What I do have a problem with is a police officer pulling a hot weapon out of his holster without needing to use it. It's a negligent (no such thing as an "accidental") discharge waiting to happen. Fortunately he was the only one hurt in this incredibly stupid incident.


34 posted on 03/19/2005 7:48:28 AM PST by stm
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To: Mulder
Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk,M

And performing publicly for a group of rap fans and gangsta wannabees didn't compromise his cover?

35 posted on 03/19/2005 7:49:19 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Mulder
"I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock 40."

Seconds later, the agent shot himself in the foot.

Pride cometh before a fall :-)

36 posted on 03/19/2005 7:51:31 AM PST by freepatriot32 (Jacques Chirac and Kofi Annan, a pantomime horse in which both men are playing the rear end. M.Steyn)
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To: Mulder

If they were soooo worried about blowing his undercover status, why did they have him do this public event?


37 posted on 03/19/2005 7:55:34 AM PST by adx (Why's it called "tourist season" if you ain't allowed to shoot 'em?)
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To: Mulder
Sounds an awful lot like Jay Santos of the Citizens Auxiliary Police.


38 posted on 03/19/2005 8:02:17 AM PST by JennysCool ("Only lie about the future." -Johnny Carson)
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To: Mulder
Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk, Local 6 News reported

I saw the video, and gleefully attached it to email forwarded to EVERONE I know, for laughs (thank God no one, but the IDIOT, was hurt), and "for instructional purposes" to show/remind my friends and family what NOT to do with a firearm.

As far as the ridiculous quote from Channel 6 above, WHY should we care about the outing of an 'undercover' agent, when, after the AD (accidental discharge) in a classroom full of FOURTH graders, he SHOULD have been summarily FIRED?

He should NEVER be able to work in law enforcement again, although he could probably get a job as an unarmed security guard, or perhaps, as an armed Deputy at the Fulton County Georgia Sheriff's Department.

Actually, I'm surprised, after TERRORIZING those little kids (ESPECIALLY when, after the AD, he CONTINUED on, and was attempting to demonstrate his "professionalism" with a so-called "assault" rifle! They were yelling "Put it AWAY! Put it AWAY!"), their parents, and teachers, he hasn't been picked up by the Department of Homeland Security.

Personally, I am surprised (or, am I?) to hear that this goofball is a federal agent of any type. When I saw the video, my first thought was that he was some "Barney Fife" (the "professional" PROVED that one "bullet", in the wrong hands, CAN be dangerous!) drug "agent" from some little po-dunk police department.

If he IS, in fact, a Federal "agent", then he must have been trained in the same way that the ATF "agents" that assaulted the men, women, and children at WACO were. Remember the fat-ass "agent" (probably an office-pogue/desk-jockey with a black ninja outfit, body armor, and dangerous - to HIM and those fellow "agents" around him - weapons) who shot HIMSELF while climbing up an "assault" ladder? And the other ATF "agents" there that shot each other accidentally, and then blamed it on the Branch Davidians? Yeah, they were REAL professionals too.

39 posted on 03/19/2005 8:05:08 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: mikegi
I think the click you heard was the racking of the slide.. This incident, I think, is typical of ND. The pistol is thought to be unloaded, measures were taken half-way.. then the "BANG" sound happens and somebody gets hurt.

What I can't figure, is how the slide got locked open with a round left in the chamber? I have to assume that the magazine was released, so a round could not have been chambered by racking the slide, at least not one that was fed from the magazine well... Even scarier than the ND that did occur, is the ND that could have been. It does not look to me like he was attempting to re-holster when the pistol went "BANG!" Watch the way the barrel of that pistol tracks.. he was pointing it toward the ceiling, after he racks the slide he brings it cross body toward the floor, tracking the kids in front of him, his helpers to the left of him, and finally his left leg. Had he pressed that trigger 1/100th of a second earlier.. he would probably be on trial for negligent homicide.

Raymond

40 posted on 03/19/2005 8:10:49 AM PST by Captain Ray
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To: JennysCool

LOL! Was he wearing a blue armband and a pith helmet?


41 posted on 03/19/2005 8:34:20 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: DocH
It appears to me that this guy was either untrained, poorly trained, forgot all or part of what he was trained, or just plain stupid and not worthy of handling weapons in any capacity, especially as a self-professed law enforcement "professional" in a classroom full of children.

Ways he could have prevented his COMPLETELY preventable "accident":

1. He should have cleared his handgun OUTSIDE, while pointing the muzzle in a safe direction. Or, at least KEPT the loaded handgun in its holster while in the classroom, and ONLY used prevoiously cleared firearms (or maybe even ones with the bolts removed, or otherwise made inoperable) for his demo. And even with those, double-checked and cleared them again, in a safe, prescribed way before the demo.

2. He should have removed the magazine BEFORE locking the slide back and checking the chamber.

3. He should have, after doing #2 above, checked the magazine well and chamber (both visually and with his finger) to ensure it was unloaded. And then, and ONLY then, let his partner VERIFY that it was unloaded.

4. Even AFTER #3 above, he should have kept ASSUMING the weapon was loaded.

5. He should have kept the weapon, at ALL times, pointed in a safe direction, including, not at his foot.

6. He should have kept his trigger finger straight and off the trigger, and OUT of the trigger guard.

7. Keep the safety engaged unless and until you want to fire the weapon. With a Glock, the only external "safety" is on the trigger, so if he had just observed and followed #6 above, the AD probably would not have happened.

This dangerous goofball needs to go, but like one other poster said, political correctness will probably protect him.

They should AT LEAST, take away his gun, put him in a desk job, and start paying him what he is worth...

FITTY CENT an hour.

42 posted on 03/19/2005 8:34:39 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: DocH
This dangerous goofball needs to go, but like one other poster said, political correctness will probably protect him.

That plus the fact he's a federal employee. He could be dealing crack from his cubicle at DEA, and the only thing he'd get is counseling and remedial training (and the union would probably fight even that).

43 posted on 03/19/2005 8:39:48 AM PST by CFC__VRWC
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To: Mulder

This is your DEA agent
This is your DEA agent on drugs

Any questions ?


44 posted on 03/19/2005 8:46:25 AM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Captain Ray
If he did, in fact, remove the magazine (not sure if he did) before locking the slide back, then maybe the extractor (worn or malfunctioning) did not extract a round left in the chamber.

That's all I can figure.

But why he didn't check for a round in the chamber HIMSELF, and instead, apparently relied upon his partner to check it alone, is what I CAN'T figure.

He may be a "professional" of some type (BS-er, etc.), but it's certainly NOT a professional at handling weapons.

45 posted on 03/19/2005 8:49:02 AM PST by DocH (Gun-grabbers, you can HAVE my guns... lead first.)
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To: Mulder
...home video of the undercover DEA agent shooting himself at an event sponsored by the Orlando Minority Youth Golf Association.

and just exactly WHAT is this fool doing playing with his gun at a GOLF event besides showing off???

46 posted on 03/19/2005 8:49:26 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: bruoz

" I even dropped it a few times."

Ummm... That is sort of considered a problem.


47 posted on 03/19/2005 9:10:10 AM PST by Dave278
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To: Mulder
Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk, Local 6 News reported.

Exposing his face and getting his gun away from him takes away a major life risk.

48 posted on 03/19/2005 9:12:49 AM PST by WildTurkey (When will CBS Retract and Apologize?)
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To: DocH
I agree of course.. I know in my own repetitive, boring, redundant, and very unlike the gun handling on T.V., practice.. every time I handle a firearm I go through my little check list..

Now one of the steps, racking the slide and pulling the trigger, is controversial. My carry weapon is an XD9, which like the Glock has no manual/external safety.. so like checking division by multiplying, this step ensures the gun has no ability to fire. Repeating is more a function of racking the slide to ensure that I did not somehow chamber another round...

Boring, Redundant, and not at all exciting like T.V. guns.. but it keeps me and mine safe..

This guy broke every one of my rules. He was handed an "unloaded" weapon, and assumed... That's a very stupid assumption.

Raymond

49 posted on 03/19/2005 9:16:58 AM PST by Captain Ray
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To: US_MilitaryRules

I need to see his face so i don't get close to him ,He's dangerous


50 posted on 03/19/2005 9:18:19 AM PST by righthand man (WE'RE SOUTHERN AND PROUD OF IT)
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