Posted on 03/19/2005 7:09:30 AM PST by Mulder
ORLANDO, Fla. -- An agent with the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency was been suspended after video surfaced showing the man shooting himself during a gun safety class in front of a group of Orlando fourth-graders, according to Local 6 News.
An investigation has been launched to determine who leaked the home video of the undercover DEA agent shooting himself at an event sponsored by the Orlando Minority Youth Golf Association.
Before the shooting, the agent was videotaped talking about how certain weapons are popular with rap artists.
"This is a Glock 40," the agent said on the tape. "Fifty Cent, Too Short, all of them talk about a Glock 40, OK?," he said. "I'm the only one in this room professional enough that I know of to carry this Glock 40."
Seconds later, the agent shot himself in the foot.
"See how that accident happened, that could happen to you and you could be blown away," the agent said after the shooting.
Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk, Local 6 News reported.
"It puts a lot of undercover agents in jeopardy if their faces are videotaped," the masked agent told Local 6 News. "His identity is burned. His identity is known as a police officer and its a potential personal safety hazard to himself as well as his family members."
The video of the shooting is posted on several Web sites on the Internet. The video shows the shooting and the agent's face.
Local 6 News did not show the entire video of the shooting because the undercover officer could be identified in some of the shots.
Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.
Maybe this guy should talk to gary coleman about getting a job at a rent a cop agency! lol
Can you imagine what would have happened to Joe Q. Citizen if he had an ND in a classroom? He'd likely still be in jail in facing felony charges.
Yet this DEA bozo is still on the job and his supervisors aren't pissed about the ND. Rather they are upset that someone taped it.
How dare one of you peasants tape one of your lords doing something incredibily negligent!
I noticed that too.
"His identity is known as a police officer..."
And a nut case. They don't seem concerned at all that this guy just hauled off and shot himself in the foot in front of a roomful of children. Is he going to claim disability payments now? What a bizarre story.
I watched the video and I whole-heartedly agree with your assessment but, I think your post was a tad too soft on the a$$hole!
Mulder, do you some days just want to go back to bed and pull the covers over your head after reading stuff like this? Sometimes, I think the whole world is skewed--(or screwed!)
Schools are supposed to safe areas so no guns allowed, but the ATF and FBI carries this known unstable hair trigger weapon in to a grade school in Waco,Tx and this is how the trouble started chanches are they shot them own selves.
SEE #10
LOL well, the video is a hoot.
He can always get a job with the Atlanta PD.
WOW, thanks for posting that. It would be pretty darn funny if it wasn't so scary. He really shot himself by accident? I thought from reading the article he did it on purpose. Oy, what a klutz! And whoever is shouting "Put it down, PUT IT DOWN!" when he has the assistant pick up the REALLY BIG gun, certainly had the right idea.
Desk duty looks like the best place for this fellow.
Hold on a minute! The Glock is stable as hell-- you just have to keep the finger off the trigger (like every DA revolver made in the U.S.). It isn't rocket science, but it does presume paying attention to handling the arm instead of role-playing in front of an audience.
As for a hair trigger, I haven't handled a Glock that really had one, but you can get them down to a nice pull weight if you play around with it. Even so, it's nothing like what you can do to, say, a High Standard Supermatic.
I posted on a week ago thread on this subject.
It's his race that kept his job. Political correctness.
Any white guy do this -- he'd be outta there.
I carried a Glock 23 .40 cal five days a week for twelve years with out a problem. I even dropped it a few times. My advise is always carry a Glock in a holster and be careful of the trigger when putting it in the holster.
I carried a Glock 23 .40 cal five days a week for twelve years with out a problem. I even dropped it a few times. My advise is always carry a Glock in a holster and be careful of the trigger when putting it in the holster.
I know what my experience around some feds showed me about their gun knowledge. I was with some sheriff's deputies at a range four or five years ago and we were shooting the police qualification course.
I was busy loading Wilson 8 round magazines for my Kimber Gold Match 1911 when an FBI agent started looking at my gun. He asked, "how do you decock it?"
Is there audio? I get the video fine-but no sound.
The kids were rightfully scared when the idiot asked the other guy to bring out the rifle. Before he shot himself, it sounded like he pulled the trigger (I heard a "click").
"Experts in the field said that the undercover agent should never have been videotaped because it could put the agent's life at risk"
This Turkeys life is at risk every time He hauls that Glock out of the holster.
They don't want the video public BECAUSE IT IS SO EMBARRASSING!
bump!
Yes there's audio. Maybe your media player has the "mute" button depressed?
It would seem he is a greater risk from himself than from anyone else.
What the H*#@ is any person, cop or not, doing with a loaded gun in a classroom? No gun should be brought into a classroom, maybe pictures if necessary.
How the heck did he get a job with the DEA? Maybe he used to be an informant?
and people say God doesnt have a sense of humor.
Personally I think his arrogance and the resulting accident was God's way of dealing out a slap down.
Well, in the audio I think he says its not loaded. And he pulls the trigger. That's the funny part.
God's a racist!
I have no problem with a police officer carrying a hot weapon into a school, it's his job. What I do have a problem with is a police officer pulling a hot weapon out of his holster without needing to use it. It's a negligent (no such thing as an "accidental") discharge waiting to happen. Fortunately he was the only one hurt in this incredibly stupid incident.
And performing publicly for a group of rap fans and gangsta wannabees didn't compromise his cover?
Seconds later, the agent shot himself in the foot.

Pride cometh before a fall :-)
If they were soooo worried about blowing his undercover status, why did they have him do this public event?
I saw the video, and gleefully attached it to email forwarded to EVERONE I know, for laughs (thank God no one, but the IDIOT, was hurt), and "for instructional purposes" to show/remind my friends and family what NOT to do with a firearm.
As far as the ridiculous quote from Channel 6 above, WHY should we care about the outing of an 'undercover' agent, when, after the AD (accidental discharge) in a classroom full of FOURTH graders, he SHOULD have been summarily FIRED?
He should NEVER be able to work in law enforcement again, although he could probably get a job as an unarmed security guard, or perhaps, as an armed Deputy at the Fulton County Georgia Sheriff's Department.
Actually, I'm surprised, after TERRORIZING those little kids (ESPECIALLY when, after the AD, he CONTINUED on, and was attempting to demonstrate his "professionalism" with a so-called "assault" rifle! They were yelling "Put it AWAY! Put it AWAY!"), their parents, and teachers, he hasn't been picked up by the Department of Homeland Security.
Personally, I am surprised (or, am I?) to hear that this goofball is a federal agent of any type. When I saw the video, my first thought was that he was some "Barney Fife" (the "professional" PROVED that one "bullet", in the wrong hands, CAN be dangerous!) drug "agent" from some little po-dunk police department.
If he IS, in fact, a Federal "agent", then he must have been trained in the same way that the ATF "agents" that assaulted the men, women, and children at WACO were. Remember the fat-ass "agent" (probably an office-pogue/desk-jockey with a black ninja outfit, body armor, and dangerous - to HIM and those fellow "agents" around him - weapons) who shot HIMSELF while climbing up an "assault" ladder? And the other ATF "agents" there that shot each other accidentally, and then blamed it on the Branch Davidians? Yeah, they were REAL professionals too.
What I can't figure, is how the slide got locked open with a round left in the chamber? I have to assume that the magazine was released, so a round could not have been chambered by racking the slide, at least not one that was fed from the magazine well... Even scarier than the ND that did occur, is the ND that could have been. It does not look to me like he was attempting to re-holster when the pistol went "BANG!" Watch the way the barrel of that pistol tracks.. he was pointing it toward the ceiling, after he racks the slide he brings it cross body toward the floor, tracking the kids in front of him, his helpers to the left of him, and finally his left leg. Had he pressed that trigger 1/100th of a second earlier.. he would probably be on trial for negligent homicide.
Raymond
LOL! Was he wearing a blue armband and a pith helmet?
Ways he could have prevented his COMPLETELY preventable "accident":
1. He should have cleared his handgun OUTSIDE, while pointing the muzzle in a safe direction. Or, at least KEPT the loaded handgun in its holster while in the classroom, and ONLY used prevoiously cleared firearms (or maybe even ones with the bolts removed, or otherwise made inoperable) for his demo. And even with those, double-checked and cleared them again, in a safe, prescribed way before the demo.
2. He should have removed the magazine BEFORE locking the slide back and checking the chamber.
3. He should have, after doing #2 above, checked the magazine well and chamber (both visually and with his finger) to ensure it was unloaded. And then, and ONLY then, let his partner VERIFY that it was unloaded.
4. Even AFTER #3 above, he should have kept ASSUMING the weapon was loaded.
5. He should have kept the weapon, at ALL times, pointed in a safe direction, including, not at his foot.
6. He should have kept his trigger finger straight and off the trigger, and OUT of the trigger guard.
7. Keep the safety engaged unless and until you want to fire the weapon. With a Glock, the only external "safety" is on the trigger, so if he had just observed and followed #6 above, the AD probably would not have happened.
This dangerous goofball needs to go, but like one other poster said, political correctness will probably protect him.
They should AT LEAST, take away his gun, put him in a desk job, and start paying him what he is worth...
FITTY CENT an hour.
That plus the fact he's a federal employee. He could be dealing crack from his cubicle at DEA, and the only thing he'd get is counseling and remedial training (and the union would probably fight even that).
This is your DEA agent
This is your DEA agent on drugs
Any questions ?
That's all I can figure.
But why he didn't check for a round in the chamber HIMSELF, and instead, apparently relied upon his partner to check it alone, is what I CAN'T figure.
He may be a "professional" of some type (BS-er, etc.), but it's certainly NOT a professional at handling weapons.
and just exactly WHAT is this fool doing playing with his gun at a GOLF event besides showing off???
" I even dropped it a few times."
Ummm... That is sort of considered a problem.
Exposing his face and getting his gun away from him takes away a major life risk.
Now one of the steps, racking the slide and pulling the trigger, is controversial. My carry weapon is an XD9, which like the Glock has no manual/external safety.. so like checking division by multiplying, this step ensures the gun has no ability to fire. Repeating is more a function of racking the slide to ensure that I did not somehow chamber another round...
Boring, Redundant, and not at all exciting like T.V. guns.. but it keeps me and mine safe..
This guy broke every one of my rules. He was handed an "unloaded" weapon, and assumed... That's a very stupid assumption.
Raymond
I need to see his face so i don't get close to him ,He's dangerous
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