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To: proud American in Canada

--Terri is not dying of inoperable cancer. She is not on the verge of death.--

This is the difference. My step-grandfather died from lung cancer after a long painful illness. This was in the days before hospice care, and also when it was hard to get enough pain medication for late stage cancer (as it can still be).

It would have been worth it to go into hospice for him, to ease the pain. One night he tried to commit suicide with a hand gun it hurt so bad, but my grandmother stopped him.

A dear friend of mine, one of those who would come by the office just to bs for awhile, developed ALS, and chose not to go on the respirator. He too chose the hospice route, which was a good way for him and his family to let him slip away, surrounded by the people he loved.

Terri, though, is merely a victim of a condition that many people fear, loath, would hate to be in.

And so, because she represents a personal nightmare, they concoct stories of suffering, or other reasons why she should be put down.

Her life does not have the quality ours has, this is true. But she is not suffering like a person dying. She is merely a memento of what we don't want to become.

And for some, that make it all the more reason why she needs to go.


1,162 posted on 03/19/2005 4:57:20 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
But she is not suffering like a person dying. She is merely a memento of what we don't want to become. And for some, that make it all the more reason why she needs to go.

PERFECT! The very best comment I've read of the thousands that have been made about Terri.

1,164 posted on 03/19/2005 5:02:33 PM PST by madprof98
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Much wisdom.


1,168 posted on 03/19/2005 5:06:00 PM PST by Lexinom (You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

I agree with you that this is about fear of death, but I disagree with your actual thesis that it's just tough for us to look at her. We just have different definitions of compassion. By the way, I love your screen name.


1,179 posted on 03/19/2005 5:15:07 PM PST by Hildy
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Oh what a statement. You have hit the nail on the head and in a poetic way. I think that is why people want her to go, I do think that.

Thanks.


1,196 posted on 03/19/2005 5:31:23 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum; expatguy

"This was in the days ... when it was hard to get enough pain medication for late stage cancer (as it can still be)."

No kidding. I am sure that many people here will know what I'm talking about when I say, that literally EVERY TIME my sister and I walked into my mom's room, her, what do you call it, like a tree with all her fluids, meds, etc., was hanging, was beeping because something was missing.

I have no doubt that they shut off food. Or they were VERY slow to give it to her.

We had to ask for pain meds for her. And I mean, every single time we were there. My mom would say that she hurt, but only if my sister or I asked the nurses, would morphine be given.

Someone another time said that this happens every day.

I think that it does. If there isn't a family member there 24/7, the people that the institution considers dead already, are, well, ignored as much as possible.

"One night he tried to commit suicide with a hand gun it hurt so bad, but my grandmother stopped him. "

I'm so sorry about the suffering your grandfather endured.

"Because she represents a personal nightmare, they concoct stories of suffering, or other reasons why she should be put down."

Exactly. Who among us hasn't feared losing control of their bodies or losing a great part of their mental faculties?

No, no one wants to end up like Terri. But the thing is, we have to look at this logically.

First. If we must choose between life and death: Life is the only option that allows a reconsideration.

Second. If Terri has a healthy brain trapped in a damaged body, well, we can look to Freeper expatguy and numerous other examples to see why we should preserve her life, her physical body, in case her consciousness returns.

Or, if Terri has a damaged brain trapped in a damaged body, but she can still exist, then can someone tell me why she "would have wanted to die?" I mean, she wouldn't have the mental ability to say, "this totally sucks! I want to die! I am not what I was!"

Because that is the "healthy brain" trapped in a "damaged body" voice talking.

But please, let us ask Stephen Hawking if even that is so bad.


1,211 posted on 03/19/2005 5:49:27 PM PST by proud American in Canada
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