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Michael Schiavo to Bush: Come down to visit Terri
WorldNetDaily ^ | 3/21/05 | Sarah Foster

Posted on 03/21/2005 6:02:28 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Bones75

"I can't believe how people I normally respect have completely lost their minds about this case."

I agree with you. It is shocking how many FReepers, names you would recognize, are vicious and vile in their pro-death stance. It's creepy.


21 posted on 03/21/2005 6:28:48 PM PST by SerpentDove (Rush Limbaugh: "There's an actual energized enthusiasm for this woman's death out there...")
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To: wagglebee

I'll bet this POS they call Terri's "husband" believes it's perfectly OK to live and sleep with another woman (no doubt of the same fine character) WHILE MARRIED TO TERRI...This whole thing stinks...I believe the law is arcane and doesn't account for husbands like Mike or Scott Peterson...It assumes the spouse loves the afflicted one...This doesn't seem to be the case with this one. Need to change law to allow for BLOOD RELETIVES to have a say in the final disposition.


22 posted on 03/21/2005 6:30:02 PM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel.)
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To: Mad Mammoth
Exactly. Michael Schiavo is probably one of the most clever criminal minds to come down the road in a long time.

Nonsense. He's made many mistakes which he's only gotten away with because corrupt officials were helping him. And even there he hasn't totally gotten away with them.

Felos and Greer are somewhat clever. Michael can't even handle a softball interview without messing up.

23 posted on 03/21/2005 6:30:40 PM PST by supercat ("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
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To: Mad Mammoth

I've personally had what's known as the "sleeper hold" used on me.
Within seconds, you start to black out.
Within minutes, your brain starves for oxygen.
It's not even a "violent" tactic....you just press the arteries on either side of the neck.
It can be done with just one arm if the arm is used to make a v-shaped "vise grip" on the victim's neck. [that's what I got]
You have no chance to struggle or squirm, it affects you -that- fast.

I was lucky.
I think Terri wasn't.
I also think he thought he'd held her "long enough" since she went into cardiac arrest.

Done "properly" it leaves no evidence of external or internal damage.

There's a line in a Jethro Tull song;

"They know how to hurt and leave no mark".

Indeed.



24 posted on 03/21/2005 6:30:44 PM PST by Salamander
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To: supercat

The Devil always helps his own.


25 posted on 03/21/2005 6:31:19 PM PST by Salamander
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To: wagglebee

Federal Marshalls do have a use.

And while they are at it, they can seize the assets that are supposed to be going to Terri's care and therapy but are currently under the control of Michael Schiavo.


26 posted on 03/21/2005 6:33:23 PM PST by John Valentine
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To: wagglebee

Well, Terri got a supoena and Michael, Judge Greer, etc. chose to ignore it. There was his chance for President Bush to see her and he refused it.


27 posted on 03/21/2005 6:33:37 PM PST by pnz1
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To: ElkGroveDan

I'd like to see GW lay him out cold using nothing other than a roundhouse.


28 posted on 03/21/2005 6:35:02 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: ElkGroveDan
Bush should meet Michael and mop the floor with him.

What a slimey toad!
29 posted on 03/21/2005 6:35:22 PM PST by Scribbz (blah blah blah)
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To: supercat

Initially, he was brilliant, if murder was his intent;




In the carotid sleeper hold, symmetrical force is applied by the forearm and upper arm to the sides of the neck such that there is compression of only the carotid arteries and jugular veins and not the trachea. The arm is placed about the neck with the antecubital fossa or crook of the arm centered at the midline of the neck. The free hand grips the wrist of the other arm and pulls it backward, creating a pincher effect. This produces transient cerebral ischemia. The carotid sleeper hold impedes blood flow of the carotid arteries by pressure exerted on both sides of the neck by pincher effect of the arm and forearm. If properly applied, the compression of the carotid arteries will cause loss of consciousness in approximately 10-15 s. On relaxation of the hold, cerebral blood flow will be restored and consciousness will return in approximately 10-20 s, without any serious side effects. Maintenance of the pressure is essentially manual strangulation, and if continued long enough will, of course, cause death.

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In theory, the carotid sleeper hold will cause rapid unconsciousness without injury to the individual. Unfortunately, in violently struggling individuals, a carotid sleeper hold can easily and unintentionally be converted into a choke hold as the individual twists and turns to break the hold.

A properly applied carotid sleeper can also cause death. One would not expect any trauma to the structures of the neck, however. The compression of the carotid arteries, with resultant decreased cerebral blood flow, can theoretically precipitate a stroke in an individual with atherosclerotic disease of the carotid and/or cerebral vasculature. The pressure may cause dislodgement of atherosclerotic material with a stroke due to an embolus. Blood flow to the brain is from both the carotid and the vertebral arteries. If the vertebral arteries have impaired blood flow due to atherosclerosis then occlusion of the carotid arteries may compromise an already compromised circulation with resultant thrombosis and/or stroke.

Compression of the neck by a carotid sleeper hold may also cause stimulation of the carotid sinus with bradycardia. Application of the hold to an individual who is agitated and struggling may increase the struggling, with increased release of catecholamines. The catecholamines working with the carotid sinus stimulation may produce a cardiac arrest. In addition, if the individual has intrinsic heart disease, he may be even more sensitive to bradycardia and the arrhythmogenic activity of the catecholamines




But if that's what happened, then things didn't go "perfectly" and he's been "cleaning up the mess" for 15 years.


30 posted on 03/21/2005 6:37:46 PM PST by Salamander
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To: wagglebee

Perhaps Michael could introduce the President to his mistress as well.


31 posted on 03/21/2005 6:39:05 PM PST by Republican Wildcat
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To: festus

Darn, you beat me to it. I think, too, the proper response would be for the President to deck him. If he gets up, have Jeb punch his lights out. When they finally allow him to get up, they might want to tell him exactly what human scum he is.


32 posted on 03/21/2005 6:41:31 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: HTuttle

I'll pray that she dies before any more ridiculous government intrusions.

I would rather her get another chance.
The death squad can come get after her then.


33 posted on 03/21/2005 6:41:37 PM PST by Scribbz (blah blah blah)
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To: Bones75

Why are people taking this case so seriously? Well, I believe that I have read that there are some 35,000 people in this country in the same condition, or worse, than Schiavo. That's a lot of killing yet to do. Where does it end?

The culture of death has been marching down this road for over 30 years now. Despite all of the assurances that the limited abortion rights encompassed in Roe would be the end of that discussion, of course it wasn't, and now we as a society cannot manage to declare illegal the killing of full-term babies in utero, and have the judiciary uphold that law. Meanwhile, the "right to die" issue is morphing into the "obligation to die", soon to become the "right to kill". Where will this one end?

So, yes, this is a serious issue, and serious people are treating it that way.


34 posted on 03/21/2005 6:42:02 PM PST by walden
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To: Scribbz

Couldn't Bush send the Marshalls to visit Terri in his place?


35 posted on 03/21/2005 6:42:19 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: supercat
Michael can't even handle a softball interview without messing up.

Man, you've got that right!!! Have you seen him in interviews? I'll bet Felos cringes everytime Michael Schiavo does an interview without Felos sitting right there beside him to correct him. I remember reading the transcript of a Larry King interview where several times, at least, they (Schiavo and Felos) answered questions simultaneously, and they answered exactly opposite!!! LOL.

Schiavo is a loose cannon in an interview. He almost always turns it into a pity party for himself. It's always all about him and the intrusion on HIS privacy and HIS family matters. He told Larry King that the Schindlers were taking the stance they are taking just to make HIS life HELL!

Then he calls Tom Delay a "slithering snake". I'll bet Felos crapped a brick when he heard Schiavo make such a juvenile insult.
36 posted on 03/21/2005 6:43:09 PM PST by AaronInCarolina
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To: SerpentDove

Isn't that the truth.


37 posted on 03/21/2005 6:46:37 PM PST by PatriotGirl827 (Member of the Vast Right Wing Pajama Party)
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To: walden

"So, yes, this is a serious issue, and serious people are treating it that way."

And there are many "there but for the grace of God go I" people fighting the trend, too.
Some of us *could* have been her if things hadn't broken the -other- way.


38 posted on 03/21/2005 6:49:16 PM PST by Salamander
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To: wagglebee
"Come down, President Bush," Schiavo said in the Times interview Saturday

That psycho need to be committed.

39 posted on 03/21/2005 6:49:18 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (Congress is defined as the United States Senate and House of Representatives; now read 1st Amendment)
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To: OldPossum

I think after the a$$ whopin from Jeb and George the appropriate response would be to tie him on behind the limo and drive thru town.

But then I've always been a bit of a moderate.


40 posted on 03/21/2005 6:52:34 PM PST by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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