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TERRI's Former Nurse Accuses MICHAEL SCHIAVO
Newsmax.com - Inside Cover ^ | 03/22/05 | CARL LIMBACHER

Posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE

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NEVER FORGET

Reprinted from NewsMax.com Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9 a.m. EST

Terri's Former Nurse Accuses Michael Schiavo From April 1995 to August 1996, Carla Sauer Iyer was one of Terri Schiavo's caretakers at Palm Garden in Largo, Fla.

This morning on Fox News' "Fox and Friends" program, she gave a frightening account of Michael Schiavo's actions and words, and also a hopeful description of Terri Schiavo's condition at that time. Ms. Iyer said that Terri could: Interact with staff. Laugh. Talk - saying words like "mommy," "help me" and "hi." Let you know if she was in pain. React reflexively on command. Interviewer Steve Doocey asked Carla why, in her opinion, Michael Schiavo was not telling people this. She answered that she believes "he wants her to die." Doocey then revealed that Carla was fired from the care facility because of a disagreement with Michael Schiavo in an incident where she claims he injected Terri with insulin. Ms. Iyer said that after Michael visited Terri one day for about 20 minutes, with the door shut, she went in after he left and saw Terri sweating, lethargic and "crying hysterically." Carla checked Terri's blood sugar, and it was barely reading on the glucometer. She also saw a vial of "insulin concealed in the trash bin." According to Carla, there were needle marks underneath Terri's breast, under her arms and near her groin. Carla talked to the police and then went to the director of nursing, who was very upset that Carla had gone to the police. She doesn't think Michael Schiavo was a caring husband and claimed to Fox News that he refused to send Terri to rehabilitation of any kind. Doocey then said that he had heard a story from another nurse who tried to feed Terri, and when Michael Schiavo found out about it, in Doocey's words, "it all hit the fan." Carla concurred, saying that Terri could be fed by mouth - jello and pudding, etc. - without aspirating, but that when Michael found out Terri was being fed by mouth, he told the nurses he was going to get them fired. Doocey then asked Carla why she was coming forward now. She answered that she wanted "to let the truth be known. I was one of the very few people who was able to see Terri. She would interact with all the visitors. ... I want everyone to see Terri."

NEVER FORGET

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KEYWORDS: bullies; investigatemichael; investigatemikenow; parentsrights; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo; verses; vulnerable
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GOD Save the Vulnerable from the Bullies

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1 posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:00 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE
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To: PhilDragoo; Carl/NewsMax


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TERRI = Breathes, Eats, Speaks / MICHAEL = "When is that B-TCH gonna die?"

http://www.Freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1366750/posts


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2 posted on 03/22/2005 10:17:06 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
Tut tut. Attempted murder is not sufficient grounds to interfere with Terri Schiavo's "right to die."
3 posted on 03/22/2005 10:17:37 AM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Criminal action needs to be taken against him based on these nurses' statements.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 10:18:04 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Terri has the characteristics of an infant. I seriously doubt she is unhappy in her condition. She might not have a concept of time and consequences, but that doesn't mean she doesn't enjoy life.


5 posted on 03/22/2005 10:19:10 AM PST by 1Peter3v14
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Terri Schiavo is being used as a diversion from this country's real problems... Namely, Illegal immigration, Activism, Multi-culturalism and the ACLU, just to name a few...

Congrats... It's working to near perfection!


6 posted on 03/22/2005 10:20:27 AM PST by odoso (Millions for charity, but not one penny for tribute!)
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To: tallhappy

She was fired because she reported it to the police.

This woman risked being sued for libel by speaking about this.

She just put everything on the line.


7 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: odoso
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8 posted on 03/22/2005 10:22:07 AM PST by Sister_T (Those who preach tolerance and love, practice it THE LEAST!!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Why is she not credible? This has been in the courts for a decade. So she must either be not credible or the courts are bad.


9 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:17 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: odoso

Grow up.

Those issues are important but so is this.

There are much larger issues here than just the life of one woman.


10 posted on 03/22/2005 10:23:42 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: odoso

Escaped from your facility again I see.


11 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:02 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

This creep of a husband is an abuser in disguise. Its time for a criminal charge to be brought against him based on these new affidavits. FREE TERRI from the legally sanctioned actions of this monster and the judicial deathocrats.


12 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:11 AM PST by tflabo (Husbands, love your wives?)
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To: TASMANIANRED

Was she on the show in person or was it a telephone interview ?


13 posted on 03/22/2005 10:24:46 AM PST by somerville
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To: somerville

I didn't see it, Just heard Rush play it.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 10:25:28 AM PST by TASMANIANRED (Certified cause of Post Traumatic Redhead Syndrome)
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To: Destro
So she must either be not credible or the courts are bad.

Gosh, ya think?

Are you actually a conservative? Have you paid any attention to anything going on in the past decade vis-a-vis the runaway court system?

You are here at FR every day. Do you not read anything here?

15 posted on 03/22/2005 10:25:49 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Enterprise
Tut tut. Attempted murder is not sufficient grounds to interfere with Terri Schiavo's "right to die."

or his continued attempts to finish the job -

This is a frightening scenario - not just for Terri and others who will follow the same fate, but for our very country.

How long can a country stand that murders it's innocents? How many millions more before God says "Pull the plug on America?"

16 posted on 03/22/2005 10:25:55 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Destro
Why is she not credible?

That's funny. I've asked myself the same thing about Destro. Can't quite put my finger on it yet. ;-)

17 posted on 03/22/2005 10:27:07 AM PST by Prince Caspian (Don't ask if it's risky... Ask if the reward is worth the risk)
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To: odoso

I think we can walk and chew gum at the same time. The Schiavo case points out the tyranny of the judicial system, IMO one of this country's most important issues.


18 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:01 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; Enterprise

Look what I found on eBay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1469&item=5567730590&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW

Unbelieveable.


19 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:05 AM PST by 7.62 x 51mm ( Veni Vidi Vino Visa "I came, I saw, I drank wine, I shopped")
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To: odoso
Terri Schiavo is being used as a diversion from this country's real problems... Namely, Illegal immigration, Activism, Multi-culturalism and the ACLU, just to name a few... Congrats... It's working to near perfection!

oh yeah, why have I not thought of that. We have other problems, so let Terri be murdered...she is only one tiny life among all the other problems.

better Hope it isn't, one day, your life hanging in the balance to be decided on by folk like you

20 posted on 03/22/2005 10:28:31 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Destro

Yes, this has been in litigation for years, BUT...

The way I understand it is that Judge Greer made an INITIAL finding to declare her PVS (years ago). Since then, despite the legal maelstrom, none of it has addressed the rightness or wrongness of the INITIAL finding of PVS, just other legal mumbo-jumbo.

If SOMEHOW the Schindlers can have that finding reviewed, that might pave the way for a reversal.


21 posted on 03/22/2005 10:29:43 AM PST by jra
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To: ALOHA RONNIE
I'm getting pretty sick of this story (yeah, I know, I'm evil, but at least I'm honest), but I have to say that the arguments of the other side are particularly lame this time.

"The government shouldn't be involved!" Well, they didn't much mind when the judiciary was involved and SUPPORTED pulling the tube, only when congress got involved saying they shouldn't pull it.

"Her husband knows what she wanted!" And yet he didn't mention these wishes until, what, years after she got sick? And since when did a guy who's got a girlfriend and kids on the side equal the loving husband--is one who is an adulterer considered a great husband? I'm not religious and think if people want they can get a divorce from someone, but since when is adultery and having kids with someone else while still married in ANY definition of being a faithful husband? And why can't he just let the parents take over her care and go live his new life?

Plus, didn't he sue for over a million dollars which he said he would use to care for her for life? I imagine the defendent in that case will be filing a suit of their own after this.

"She shouldn't be kept alive by artificial means!" Food is now considered an artificial means?

"States rights!" Since when is it a state-sanctioned right for a husband to starve someone to death when her family doesn't want her starved to death?

"This was her wish!" We've had Living Wills for years. Those who support them, like members of my family, say if you want certain things done when you are in a coma or whatever, make the effort to get it in writing. Simple as that. And this woman didn't.

"Oh, that's just a piece of paper!" Yeah, kinda like a marriage certificate. Kinda like the papers illegal immigrants don't have. So I guess those who dismiss this piece of paper are for just taking the word of any illegal alien if he says he WANTS to be here, and that's all we need for him to be a legal immigrant?

"Big Brother!" Yes, we wouldn't want the government to start getting involved in cases which even the starvation proponents have to admit is anything but cut and dried, which would result in someone being starved to death. I mean, wow, since when is it the government's job to champion people who can't speak up for themselves who are being starved to death.

I'm not demonizing this Schiavo guy, but I have heard multiple sources claiming his wife could react, speak (imperfectly), and that he STOPPED efforts to rehabilitate this woman. So yeah, call me an advocate of Big Brother, I DO think there is a reason for the government to check this out.

I had no interest in this case at first because I thought it was about a woman on life support, and her family wanted her taken off. It was an open and shut case, to me. And then I got informed. And I refuse to be on the side of murdering the helpless. Sorry, call me a nazi; I'd rather be called a nazi by ridiculous libertarians, cranky idealists, and uninformed populists than be wrong about someone being murdered.

23 posted on 03/22/2005 10:30:47 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Agnostic for life)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Not that I agree with user odoso' statement, but it would appear that WE CANNOT "walk and chew gum at the same time" Evidenced by the 10 million plus illegal immigrants in the US RIGHT NOW!!


24 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:29 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: tallhappy

I didn't know Conservatives were less gullible - questioners of both sides. How do you know this nurse is credible - I find the statement that Terri could talk uncredible or is that incredible.


25 posted on 03/22/2005 10:31:37 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Prince Caspian

Go join the democrats who beleive everything they read. This website was founded to question news sources.


26 posted on 03/22/2005 10:33:31 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/player.html?032205/pol_schiavonurse_032205&FOX_Friends&FOX%20News%20Exclusive&acc&Politics&-1&wvx-300


27 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:25 AM PST by pookie18 (Clinton Happens!)
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To: DollarCoins

So if we had let Terri die without a fight all these aliens wouldn't be here?


28 posted on 03/22/2005 10:34:40 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: Darkwolf377
"Her husband knows what she wanted!" And yet he didn't mention these wishes until, what, years after she got sick?

And after he got a huge amount of money in some settlement.

29 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:04 AM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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To: Destro

Yes I agree, this nurse loses all credibility with some of her miraculous claims. Next she will tell us that Terri was singing and dancing.

Why can't the public and the courts stay out of this. Let Terri go home and be with her family who is more than willing to care for her. Where is the harm?


30 posted on 03/22/2005 10:35:33 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: Darkwolf377

hey, Darkwolf - welcome aboard on the right side - you are a Lightwolf - :O)


31 posted on 03/22/2005 10:36:17 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: DLfromthedesert

Evidently you've missed the point. I made no mention of the Terri case, but I do not see the same sense of urgency in the immigration matter as that of the Schiavo case.


32 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:21 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: Enterprise

Since when was one's "right to die" at issue here? Since Terri never established her intent one way or another in any legal written manner, her "intentions" are nothing more than her husband's say-so... a husband who has plenty of motive to end her life.


33 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:29 AM PST by Outland (Some people are damned lucky that I don't have Bill Gates' checkbook.)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Send it to Drudge. Unbelievable.


34 posted on 03/22/2005 10:37:46 AM PST by somerville
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To: DLfromthedesert
So if we had let Terri die without a fight all these aliens wouldn't be here?

GOOD one! Much better than my response to his/her asinine post/posture

35 posted on 03/22/2005 10:38:36 AM PST by maine-iac7 (."...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: Destro

Isn't this the girl that filed the affidavit making these claims? Heck, well at least she has her story in writing.


36 posted on 03/22/2005 10:39:06 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Outland

Does it have to be "written" to be legal. Or does verbal statment count. I am not saying that Terri ever made this statement, I am merely seeking an answer to a standard question


37 posted on 03/22/2005 10:39:29 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: maine-iac7

I see you missed the point as well.


38 posted on 03/22/2005 10:40:54 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: DollarCoins


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MICHAEL keeps TERRI's family at bay.

MICHAEL says "When is that B-TCH gonna die?"

MICHAEL wants TERRI to die...

...as he keeps right on making babies with someone else he is now engaged to Marry after his wife is out of the way.

And where's the Harm to TERRI, you ask..?

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39 posted on 03/22/2005 10:45:18 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: somerville

I saw her on Fox this morning ... she was being interviewed by video... It was a fantastic interview. Fox tried to contact Michael after the interview, but he declined. Hmmmm.

The bottom line, he 's been trying to kill his wife Terri for a long time, and when this finally hits the courts, look out because if Terri dies, it will not only involve the judges involved, Michael's lawyers, but the cover-up at the nursing home, the Florida Board of Health & Human Services, the police department, and the list goes on and on.

I bet there's a mega law-suit in the making right now.


40 posted on 03/22/2005 10:46:51 AM PST by Daisy4
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To: maine-iac7; Outland

There is no "right to die" issue here IMO. I think enough allegations have been exposed to arouse the deepest suspicions of all of us. There is enough, IMO, to order the re-insertion of the feeding tube and for a criminal investigation to begin.


41 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:02 AM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Original Post:
Why can't the public and the courts stay out of this. Let Terri go home and be with her family who is more than willing to care for her. Where is the harm?

Did you forget to read what I wrote?


42 posted on 03/22/2005 10:47:29 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

I understand that Michael Shiavo is a registered nurse. There are lots of things available to medical people that aren't available to the general public, including substances that can be used in the commission of violence. If Terry had died from her supposed "heart attack," an autopsy might have revealed some interesting things.


43 posted on 03/22/2005 10:48:47 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE

Good grief, what is with all the grasping at straws here? The judge made his ruling, and its time to move on. Its over. And the "never forget" slogan and its Holocaust insinuation is a BIT much, dont you think? Comparing the slaughter of 6 million Jews to Terri?


44 posted on 03/22/2005 10:49:57 AM PST by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: 7.62 x 51mm

Unbelievable and disgusting. Also I believe, illegal. If it has been used to treat a patient, it is medical waste. I don't believe it can be resold.


45 posted on 03/22/2005 10:50:58 AM PST by Enterprise (President George W. Bush - the leading insurgent detergent.)
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To: DollarCoins

They probably both see the point, but recognize that a woman being starved and dehydrated will die faster than illegal aliens can be rounded up and deported.

That is why there is more urgency about Terri's fight.


46 posted on 03/22/2005 10:51:09 AM PST by Triggerhippie
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To: Prince Caspian

My guess is that the nursing home fingered her because they can be brought in on a law suit for neglect and abuse, so they got rid of her to cover-up their own neglect. State law comes down hard on nursing home neglect of the disabled and elderly. At least in my state they do, but I don't know about Fla. If this had happened in my state, the Attorney General would call for a full investigation and shut the nursing home down. Can't wait to see what they do in Fla. now.


47 posted on 03/22/2005 10:52:21 AM PST by Daisy4
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To: Windsong

I have been trying to make the same point for a while. (comparing this to the Holocaust). If only we made this big of a deal about the illegal immigration DISASTER that has been taking place for MANY YEARS, maybe we could get somewhere


48 posted on 03/22/2005 10:52:56 AM PST by DollarCoins
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To: Darkwolf377

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49 posted on 03/22/2005 10:54:44 AM PST by ALOHA RONNIE ("ALOHA RONNIE" Guyer/Veteran-"WE WERE SOLDIERS" Battle of IA DRANG-1965 http://www.lzxray.com)
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To: Triggerhippie

You make a great point and I do not disagree. My problem is they are making little if any effort to solve the problem of illegals, which consequently has been a problem for a long long time


50 posted on 03/22/2005 10:54:54 AM PST by DollarCoins
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