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Charles Krauthammer: Between Travesty and Tragedy (writes on the Terri Schiavo's case)
Washington Post ^ | March 23, 2005 | Charles Krauthammer

Posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:11 PM PST by Former Military Chick

If I were in Terri Schiavo's condition, I would not want a feeding tube. But Schiavo does not have the means to make her intentions known. We do not know what she would have wanted. We have nothing to go on. No living will, no advance directives, no durable power of attorney.

What do you do when you have nothing to go on? You try to intuit her will, using loved ones as surrogates.

In this case, the loved ones disagree. The husband wants Terri to die; the parents do not. The Florida court gave the surrogacy to her husband, under the generally useful rule that your spouse is the most reliable diviner of your wishes: You pick your spouse and not your parents, and you have spent most of your recent years with your spouse and not your parents.

The problem is that although your spouse probably knows you best, there is no guarantee that he will not confuse his wishes with yours. Terri's spouse presents complications. He has a girlfriend, and has two kids with her. He clearly wants to marry again. And a living Terri stands in the way.

Now, all of this may be irrelevant in his mind. He may actually be acting entirely based on his understanding of his wife's wishes. And as she left nothing behind, the courts have been forced to conclude, on the basis of his testimony, that she would prefer to be dead.

That is why this is a terrible case. The general rule of spousal supremacy leads you here to a thoroughly repulsive conclusion. Repulsive because in a case where there is no consensus among the loved ones, one's natural human sympathies suggest giving custody to the party committed to her staying alive and pledging to carry the burden themselves.

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KEYWORDS: krauthammer; schiavo; terri; terrischiavo
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Charles is one heck of a writer. Whether you agree or disagree he offers food for thought.
1 posted on 03/22/2005 9:45:11 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick

Michael Schaivo's lawyer keeps saying Terri said, "no tubes for me". Well, that doesn't mean to keep food out of her mouth. If her parents want to feed her pudding, jello, etc. and it works, then to deprive her of that is beyond her wishes. The judge is ordering something she never requested. No tubes, not no food!!!


2 posted on 03/22/2005 9:48:44 PM PST by 1Peter3v14
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To: Former Military Chick
The problem is that although your spouse probably knows you best, there is no guarantee that he will not confuse his wishes with yours. Terri's spouse presents complications. He has a girlfriend, and has two kids with her. He clearly wants to marry again. And a living Terri stands in the way.

He WON'T simply divorce her. America, wake the &%$# UP!

3 posted on 03/22/2005 9:48:58 PM PST by JennysCool ("Only lie about the future." -Johnny Carson)
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To: JennysCool

Bumping that, JennysCool.


4 posted on 03/22/2005 9:51:02 PM PST by Miss Behave (Man who fart in church sit in own pew.)
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To: Former Military Chick
"What do you do when you have nothing to go on? You try to intuit her will, using loved ones as surrogates."

Wrong. Unless you're the Amazing Kreskin, you don't try to "intuit" anyone's will. When there's a doubt, LIFE wins out.

Period.

End.

Of.

Story.

5 posted on 03/22/2005 9:51:59 PM PST by Luddite Patent Counsel ("Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others." - Groucho Marx)
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To: Former Military Chick
Blood is thicker then water. I believe the family is who you go with. Spouses come and go but your family is always there. Plus he was not married that long. And he wants her dead!
6 posted on 03/22/2005 9:54:58 PM PST by Brimack34
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To: Former Military Chick
Repulsive because in a case where there is no consensus among the loved ones, one's natural human sympathies suggest giving custody to the party committed to her staying alive and pledging to carry the burden themselves.

One would think so, but I've seen otherwise.

7 posted on 03/22/2005 9:55:52 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: Luddite Patent Counsel
When there's a doubt, LIFE wins out. Period.

As the writer stated, then it needs to be codified in law. Teri's unfortunate situation will, hopefully, lead to some legal clarification of future situations such as this one.

8 posted on 03/22/2005 9:56:44 PM PST by zarf
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To: Former Military Chick
The general rule of spousal supremacy comes from an age where golden anniversaries were common. Today, people are amazed if a couple makes it to 10 years. Sure, there are plenty of exceptions but the current divorce rate should be factored into the equation when it comes to current day application of that general rule.
9 posted on 03/22/2005 9:57:35 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It took the submedia to sink Kerry's campaign boat)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

I think that it was okay to name Michael Schiavo guardian in the beginning, but when he started the adultereous relationship with another woman, he had a conflict of interest, which is very clear here, and he should have long ago been removed. He has not had Terri's interest at heart for years. The courts have failed Terri.


10 posted on 03/22/2005 9:59:20 PM PST by tessalu ( A)
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To: Former Military Chick

That's a good article!! Thank you for posting it.


11 posted on 03/22/2005 10:03:18 PM PST by Gimme
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To: NonValueAdded
You have an point. Marriage in todays culture is not as widely practiced as a union of permanent devotion and fidelity.

I should add for those on this thread who may not know, Charles Krauthammer is a Medical Doctor who is confined to a wheelchair.

12 posted on 03/22/2005 10:05:23 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: Former Military Chick
The only outcome in this case is a complete loss of faith in our "justice" system. First the courts rule that states have no right to determine whether or not someone like Lee Malvo, who just scraped under the wire as a minor when he killed all those people in the sniper attacks, should be terminated for his crimes and then they come along and state the states DO have a right to determine the death of a perfectly innocent person. Judges in MA decide that marriage is fungable and can mean anything they want it to mean even if the people disagree and the "lawmakers" stand frozen. These same black robed thugs decide that the people don't have first amendment rights when it comes to political speech when they upheld CFR, but pornography of course DOES fall under the perview of freedom of speech as does burning the flag. Go figure!

I have come to the conclusion that you must not ever do anything that would bring you to the attention of our courts. NEVER! You must live in total fear of being put at the mercy of these cold hearted, immoral people in black robes. They are to be feared more than anything, they are inconsistant, they are not judges, they are gamesmen playing with words while peoples lives are in the balance.

Don't bother to tell me how much better our system is than any other, frankly I can't see it. It may not be worse, but it is certainly no better. You can not count on it, it's worthless.

13 posted on 03/22/2005 10:08:33 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: smoothsailing

I thought he was a psychiatrist. Is that still an MD? I'm not positive of his specialty however.


14 posted on 03/22/2005 10:09:59 PM PST by Fudd Fan (MaryJo Kopechne needed an "exit strategy")
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To: smoothsailing

He's also a Psychiatrist. A brilliant man.


15 posted on 03/22/2005 10:13:04 PM PST by 185JHP ( "The thing thou purposest shall come to pass: And over all thy ways the light shall shine.")
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To: Fudd Fan

Hey FF! Actually,we are both correct.He is an MD and a Psychiatrist.


17 posted on 03/22/2005 10:15:59 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: Fudd Fan
I thought he was a psychiatrist. Is that still an MD

He is psychiatrist but you have to complete medical residency before you can start study psychiatry so yes he is MD. Psychologists are not MDs.

18 posted on 03/22/2005 10:16:12 PM PST by Dave S
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To: Former Military Chick
"There is no good outcome to this case. Except perhaps if Florida and the other states were to amend their laws and resolve conflicts among loved ones differently -- by granting authority not necessarily to the spouse but to whatever first-degree relative (even if in the minority) chooses life and is committed to support it. Call it Terri's law. It would help prevent our having to choose in the future between travesty and tragedy."

It is difficult to disagree with Charles on this point. Perhaps this will be the best outcome.

19 posted on 03/22/2005 10:17:28 PM PST by Balata
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To: NonValueAdded

You make a good point and one of the reasons that the law is silent is that, IMO, such situations have been rare, if not non existant despite claims that it happens tens of thousands of times a day.

Rather than the travesty that Krauthammer suggests, I think that the Congress took a necessary first step to protect life when such a conflict arises.

The states SHOULD do this themselves, but that doesn't mean that Congress was wrong to pick up the ball when Florida dropped it.

The travesty, if there is one, is that Congress took so long to take this issue up. By waiting, Terri is now 5 days closer to death than she should be.


20 posted on 03/22/2005 10:17:59 PM PST by Badray (Quinn's First Law -- Liberalism ALWAYS generates the exact opposite of its stated intent.)
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