[UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide]

You are right but so is Hewitt.

We can't both be right. But the rest of your comments are very sensible. The main criticism of Jeb however, is that he is too timid for higher office. This was a Jackson or Lincoln moment for him and he blew it.

[Dionysiusdecordealcis]

It is, as hard as it may be to believe it, possible for two people who disagree both to be right. One may be more right than other, both may be partially right, partially wrong etc. Only if they are making very simple propositions and diametrically opposed to each other in their propositions does the principle of non-contradiction apply. But your propositions and Hewitt's are not simple nor diametrically opposed. You are, in fact, on the same side but disagree in your assessment of what went wrong, who's to blame and how much (and when we have many different people actively involved in the drama, assigning blame is not simple but complex).

You even recognized this when you commented that the rest of what I wrote was sensible. You disagree with Hewitt, fine. Just don't demonize him or the others on your side because that only helps the Other Side, the real villains.

On one point you and Hewitt cannot both be right, of course. If you indeeed wish to make Jeb Bush _the_ single most important villain in it all, then you and Hewitt diametrically disagree and can't both be right.

But do you really want to make Jeb Bush the most important villain? That's all I was really pointing out: in our anger and frustration, let's not lose sight of where this all started and who deserves the most blame.

Then we can profitably disagree (and perhaps persuade each other) about how much blame is deserved by by others: Congress, Schindler lawyers etc. I tried to do some rough distribution of blame in my earlier post, which you found sensible. And we do agree, don't we, that the real villains are Greer and his fellow travelers?

[TChris]

This was a Jackson or Lincoln moment for him and he blew it.

Agreed.

May I also add that those who fear the presumed chaos that would ensue following an executive decision to nullify a court ruling, that the members of the executive and legislative branches are elected, and thus accountable to the people for their actions. Any elected executive who got carried away would still be subject to impeachment by the legislature in dire situations.

For the judiciary to be so insulated from accountability is dangerous in the extreme. If fear on the part of the executive and/or the legislature effectively eliminates any checks and balances vis a vis the judiciary, then tyranny is the only possible outcome.