Posted on 03/23/2005 3:20:34 AM PST by syriacus
Actually, seeing that there is a lot of dispute over the PVS diagnosis, and that the deciding vote was by a hard-line euthanasia advocate, your statement is exactly what should be done in this case. The on-record doctors for the PVS fact finding were only 3-2 for PVS.
IMO, it is the judge that erred, not the doctors who don't want Terri starved to death.
The wounded in the herd are the easiest to kill. Most herd animals run from their wounded in fear of being attacked themselves. Who will stand and defend this wounded dear girl and show their true humanity. If we all don't learn a big lesson from this tragedy, that it's easy to hide our inhumanity behind the law, then we are doomed as an advanced specie and will consume ourselves like jackals snarling and attacking other jackals just to have a piece of the recent kill.
It's disheartening to see a long-time Freeper side with an obvious disruptor. Yep, calling us "religious nuts" is really a great way to argue.
So you say that we have no concern with punshing murderers, since God will take care of them in the afterlife?
Martin Luther King's Letter from Birmingham Jail [excerpts]
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" ..." It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany. [snip]I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is ... the white moderate, who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action";
Some of the trouble, is that there is no exact definition of PVS that sharply defines it from the definition of MCS ("minimally concious state"); the two conditions overlap; the views of doctors on the amount of overlap, vary greatly, from doctor to doctor.
Apparently, the law in Florida allows a judge to toss the coin on that boundary, when a decision has to be made, but I would rather that a jury toss the coin --- that there be a trial only on the point of, Is this PVS or MCS?
"Personal attacks are quite charming."
"you patronizing fool"
Both of these posts come from you. What's up with that? You have the right to personally attack but nobody else does?
Yes Hannity did a great job but that's not helping Terri this morning.
We all do what we can.
Some of us are caring for our frail elderly parents in our homes.
I think it's a good idea for those of us stuck at our keyboards to donate to Terri's foundation.
...obviously the government nor the courts believe that a human being has any rights unless her/his spouse says so.....
..."There were seven doctors who have examined Terri and diagnosed her as PVS. You know, licensed physicians that have actually examined her; unlike Hannity's brother, "one of the best radiologists in the country," I'm sure."
Doctors are proven wrong every single day...there are countless miracle stories of individuals who have survived because of the belief if family and friends and who are living today.
My solution: have the president decree that Terri participated in José Padilla's conspiracy (however erroneous that must be), send federal law-enforcement agencies to whip the plant from its pot (drab, windowless hospital room), and imprison her in solitary (except doctors and occasional visitors permitted by the guards [which curiously must exclude its owner]) at a military brig.
Interesting.
I didn't call anybody a religious nut, as you well know. I agreed with his/her larger point.
We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" ...It was "illegal" to aid and comfort a Jew in Hitler's Germany.
Love your way of thinking...
Secondly Florida Law states that a conflict of interest is grounds for removal of the guardian. It's obvious that MS is conflicted, the Florida Court of Appeals admitted as much in their holding.
And the notion that his testimony 8 years after the fact that TS had offered informed consent to be dehydrated to death is as laughable as the American system of jurisprudence has now become.
Oh you are so right. I said to my wife yesterday, If Terri and her family are hoping the courts will side with them, she is dead already. Her only hope other than a miracle cure, is for a group of gun toting individuals to steal her from this facility, and take her to a place prepared for long term care, and replace the feeding tube, and of course be prepared for the cost and continuation of hiding someone not easily hidden for the rest of her life. Want to find out how diligent the government would be in returning Terri to a place where her death sentence can be carried out, just try this scenario.
"Those who want her to live will pick the facts that align with our viewpoint. Those who want to let her go will cherry pick the facts that support their position."
"to live"
"to let her go"
That's a false dichotomy in the Schiavo case. If a person is not terminally ill, then he can't be "let go." He can, however, be euthanized. If a person is not terminally ill, then by definition he is not being sustained by extraordinary means. Defining and establishing food and water as extraordinary means is an immoral and freighteningly dangerous precedent.
There does seem to be a R.I.C.O. case brewing, but I doubt that the AG can act as fast as he'd like, unless he has directed a special task force to see what crimes are being committed.
We may not save Terri, but life is going to get harder for Felos, Greer & Co.
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