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Journalist discusses potential jail time (Cooper/Plame)
Yale Daily News ^ | March 23, 2005 | DAVID SHIEH

Posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:24 PM PST by cyncooper

Time Magazine's White House correspondent Matt Cooper said he is still trying to find the right words to explain to his six-year-old son that "daddy might not be coming home for a while."

In a talk at the Law School Tuesday evening, Cooper explained the details of a case that could land him behind bars. Last month a federal appeals court upheld a ruling that Cooper could face time in prison for refusing to reveal the name of a confidential government source who leaked the name of CIA operative Valerie Plame in 2003. Judith Miller of The New York Times is also being prosecuted for refusing to comply with subpoenas, and the controversy surrounding the case has sparked a debate about the nature of journalistic privilege in regard to the confidentiality of sources, Cooper said.

~snip~

Cooper said he may face sentencing this week unless he obtains a stay. When asked about the prospect of serving prison time, Cooper said he would rather go to prison than break the confidentiality of his source.

~snip~

Cooper said he found the case proceedings and how it has been enshrouded in secrecy to be almost comic.

"Lots of the evidence of the case … is being kept sealed by the courts," Cooper said. "It's one of the ironies of this case that Judith Miller and I are being denied this information even though we've shown that we're pretty good for keeping secrets."

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KEYWORDS: 16words; cialeak; cooper; freepress; josephwilson; judithmiller; mattcooper; niger; nigerflap; plame; plamegate; wilson
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First, the grand jury subpoena excerpt cited in the appellate court ruling upholding the contempt citations states they want Cooper to testify to more than merely who "leaked" Plame's "name".

The excerpt cited in the court decision states the grand jury seeks from Cooper any documentation and information he received regarding Joseph Wilson and his trip to Niger in 2002, in addition to Plame and her relationship to the CIA.

1 posted on 03/23/2005 2:19:25 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Shermy

Matt Cooper thinks the time may be close to having to do jail time.

The part about explaining it to the son was touching, don't you think?


2 posted on 03/23/2005 2:22:10 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Shermy

BTW, I asked the mods to add (Cooper/Plame) to the title in order to alert those following the saga.


3 posted on 03/23/2005 2:22:48 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: EllaMinnow; MizSterious

The reporters would love to know what evidence the grand jury has.

I wonder why they don't know if it's all a matter of simply who leaked Plame's name and it's presumably one person?

Could it be the investigation is broader than popular wisdom would have it?

I think so.


4 posted on 03/23/2005 2:25:00 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
When asked about the prospect of serving prison time, Cooper said he would rather go to prison than break the confidentiality of his source.

There is no Republican alive that Cooper would protect.

5 posted on 03/23/2005 2:28:41 PM PST by EllaMinnow (Bring me the head of the Travelocity Gnome!)
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To: EllaMinnow
Mr. Mandy Grunwald wouldn't even have a Republican source to give up. What pro-Bush official in their right mind would be giving him such information?


6 posted on 03/23/2005 2:33:20 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: EllaMinnow

"There is no Republican alive that Cooper would protect."

My thoughts too.


7 posted on 03/23/2005 2:33:21 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Fenris6

Not the issue. If he gave up his source he would NEVER work in journalism again. NEVER!


8 posted on 03/23/2005 2:34:51 PM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: EllaMinnow; cyncooper

"There is no Republican alive that Cooper would protect."

Clarke, Wilson, Thielmann, a couple of others he spoke to.

Cynically, there's a possibility none of them told them about Plame and his comments that two officials told him before Novak heard could be some kind of me-tooism.

Don't know that, but his comments about "arrogance" are well-thought and polite. Sounds like a thoughtful fellow.


9 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:37 PM PST by Shermy
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To: OldFriend

The MSM has a code of conduct? The NYT? LOL.


10 posted on 03/23/2005 2:37:43 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: OldFriend

He already has given limited testimony to this same grand jury telling them Lewis "Scooter" Libby of Dick Cheney's office was not the source.

Of course Libby had signed a confidentiality waiver as his name had been bandied about for months as the "leaker" (Chris Matthews would say "Scooter" or "Libby" or both dozens of times per show for weeks on end).

I also think it's interesting how Cooper references not being able to know all the evidence the prosecutor has. It's not the first time he or Judith Miller has spoken of wishing to know what the grand jury knows.

I just have to wonder why.


11 posted on 03/23/2005 2:38:41 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Shermy

I agree, his comments on arrogance and having humility were measured and thoughtful.


12 posted on 03/23/2005 2:40:09 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
"We got here early expecting the room to be crowded," professor of psychiatry and psychology Sidney Blatt said. "I find the apathy in this community disheartening."

The good doc is prinicpled and assumed with the past hoo-hah he'd get a big showing. Unfortunately the MSM locked themselves into the position of exposure of these contacts presuming it was Libby, Rove, or some "neo-con." Think the figured out it wasn't.

13 posted on 03/23/2005 2:40:24 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

That's a very likely explanation for the low attendance. It's becoming more clear there is not going to be a high-profile Bush administration official frog-marched off to jail and no impeachment of Bush over Plame.

~smirk~


14 posted on 03/23/2005 2:43:02 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Boo-hoo. You're not above the law, Mr. "Journalist." Doctors and lawyers have privileges against testifying in order to protect confidential relationships, but in exchange they agree to be regulated by the state.


15 posted on 03/23/2005 2:50:07 PM PST by mondonico (Peace through Superior Firepower)
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To: cyncooper; okie01

The message was sent via NYTimes article a month back saying, hey, maybe this investigation is not such a good idea after all.

Then deflecting to whether or not Novak testified. As far as I can tell that doesn't matter since the officials who told him already testified, according to one source.

I can't figure out the Judith Miller angle, but the fact she didn't write anything is doesn't make a leak of a CIA agent's name to her right.


16 posted on 03/23/2005 2:50:10 PM PST by Shermy
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To: OldFriend
Not the issue. If he gave up his source he would NEVER work in journalism again. NEVER!

Rightly so. No journalist who betrays their sources should be trusted.

17 posted on 03/23/2005 2:50:30 PM PST by Androcles (All your typos are belong to us)
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To: cyncooper

Novak gave them a warning that the first one at least was not "a partisan gunslinger."


18 posted on 03/23/2005 2:52:08 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Androcles

"No journalist who betrays their sources should be trusted."

Yeah, and how about Novak's argument? The CIA official who confirmed asked him not to reveal the agents name, but because the official didn't say her life would be at harm Novak went ahead anyway. Swell.


19 posted on 03/23/2005 2:54:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: cyncooper
"[It was] very surprising how few people showed up to hear a central figure in a huge public controversy," Rudy Kleysteuber LAW '07 said. "It points to apathy among citizens regarding manipulation of the press as a tool to achieve political ends."

Apathy? Now if you're talking about manipulation of the truth that's another matter all together.

Resistance is futile..........we are the Blog

21 posted on 03/23/2005 3:00:45 PM PST by Donald Rumsfeld Fan ("Memos on Bush Are Fake but Accurate". NYTimes)
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To: Miss Marple; Dog; Howlin

ping


22 posted on 03/23/2005 3:05:17 PM PST by kayak (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: cyncooper

It must be a Democrat. :-)


23 posted on 03/23/2005 3:07:33 PM PST by Howlin
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To: OldFriend
Not the issue. If he gave up his source he would NEVER work in journalism again. NEVER!

Exactly. This way he's in a win-win situation. He goes to jail and protects his source, becomes a 'victim' of 'Republican dirty tricks' and a martyr for the MSM. Plus, he will surely write a scathing book while he's imprisoned and then write his own ticket in the almighty world of journalism after his release. (And I don't imagine he'd be bothered one bit by having to 'get married' to a fellow prisoner either.)

24 posted on 03/23/2005 3:08:20 PM PST by arasina (So there.)
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To: EllaMinnow
Precisely.


25 posted on 03/23/2005 3:09:35 PM PST by Howlin
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To: cyncooper

He should be forced to go without food and water.


26 posted on 03/23/2005 3:11:30 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: cyncooper

isn't Cooper married to Mandy Gruenwald?


27 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:05 PM PST by Hildy
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To: arasina

OMG.....I'm EATING..........stop!!!


28 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:18 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Diogenesis

Please.


29 posted on 03/23/2005 3:12:47 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Diogenesis

Congratulations.

I freepmailed someone wondering how long before a Terri Schiavo mention was made and you're it.

FWIW, Cooper can swallow and is cognizant. This is relevant when drawing equivalencies. I would have liked to have seen guardianship turned over to the parents but so far it doesn't look like that will happen, but it is not the same as locking a healthy person away and withholding food and water.


30 posted on 03/23/2005 3:14:22 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Hildy

I posted a picture of the happy couple at #6. He is indeed.

:)


31 posted on 03/23/2005 3:15:01 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper

Which one is the guy?


32 posted on 03/23/2005 3:17:29 PM PST by Trust but Verify (Pull up a chair and watch history being made.)
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To: cyncooper
For outing a CIA agent during War, President Washington would have hung him AND Novak.
That would be a good alternative, then.
33 posted on 03/23/2005 3:18:40 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: mondonico

Yep. No such thing as a journalistic privilege.

Created out of thin air by lefties.

Seems like a nice guy, but he needs to got to jail.


34 posted on 03/23/2005 3:19:07 PM PST by MeanWestTexan
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To: Diogenesis

She more than likely hadn't been under cover for many more years than the law would cover.

Novak did a service, IMO, in telling us why Wilson was sent off to Niger (his wife suggested him).

It is my theory that this investigation is into illegal leaks from the CIA of more than her name, which most likely was not illegal to give.

Time will tell.


35 posted on 03/23/2005 3:22:25 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Cooper said he found the case proceedings and how it has been enshrouded in secrecy to be almost comic.

Silly liberal........I can assure him that Patrick Fitgerald is quite serious about the law.

36 posted on 03/23/2005 3:24:52 PM PST by MamaLucci (Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
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To: cyncooper
I am tired of the MSM outing US agents, and helping terrorists.

They should be treated as harshly as Benedict Arnold and hung as spies.

37 posted on 03/23/2005 3:25:32 PM PST by Diogenesis (Si vis pacem, para bellum)
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To: MeanWestTexan; mondonico

You two might be interested in the ruling I linked in the first post. Each judge of the three judge panel wrote individual opinions affirming their unanimous decision and the first is Judge Sentelle (remember him? vilifed during the Ken Starr days).

Judge Sentelle ponders whether the privilege shouldn't cover bloggers in their pajamas, and if not, why not.


38 posted on 03/23/2005 3:26:13 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Howlin; arasina

He'd be hard-pressed to find a man as (ahem) masculine as Mandy.


39 posted on 03/23/2005 3:28:56 PM PST by EllaMinnow (Bring me the head of the Travelocity Gnome!)
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To: Diogenesis

You don't see Novak going to jail, do you?


40 posted on 03/23/2005 3:31:45 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Diogenesis

That's fine if the agent was in a position to be outed.

Evidence to date is Plame was not.

Evidence to date is she, her husband and her fellow rogues at the CIA were out to undermine a sitting U.S. President at time of War.

That's what I'm concerned about.

I don't know if you're aware, but another investigation this prosecutor, Patrick Fitzgerald, is conducting is to do with New York Times reporters Philip Shenon and Judith Miller tipping off Islamic charities to imminent raids on their offices.

Fitzgerald is investigating who in the government leaked the raid information, as well as the reporters telling the charities the raids were about to take place. He also says he has evidence that as a result of tipping off the charities that they in fact destroyed evidence.

When did the leaking of these raids and tipping off take place? Why in 2001, very shortly after 9/11.


41 posted on 03/23/2005 3:32:08 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: cyncooper
Evidence to date is she, her husband and her fellow rogues at the CIA were out to undermine a sitting U.S. President at time of War.

Don't forget Tony Blair. But Wilson's contribution to that project paled in size to the "45 minute" claim the Brits made.

42 posted on 03/23/2005 3:36:51 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Thanks for making those points.

Exactly.


43 posted on 03/23/2005 3:49:56 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: kayak; cyncooper
Thanks for the ping, kayak!

cyncooper...maybe this grand jury is lookin for something else. Since Judith Miller wasn't involved in the Wilson/Plame stories, is there another subject in which the paths of Cooper and Miller intersect?

I know she was writing about the search for WMD's early in the Iraq war. I kind of lost track of her after that.

44 posted on 03/23/2005 4:00:53 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cyncooper

Oh, I hadn't read your post yet about those Islamic charity raids. I am wondering if the same person tipped the reporters about the raid and later spoke to Cooper about the Plame/Wilson thing. This is quite interesting.


45 posted on 03/23/2005 4:06:16 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple

I think it is very interesting that the reporters really really really want to know all the evidence the prosecutor and grand jury have and that the courts have sealed.

How much evidence would be accumulated just to document a leaker or two of Plame's name?

Either Patrick Fitzgerald is laboriously dotting all the i's and dotting all the t's in order to pursue that narrow point in the wake of evidence that seems to more than hint that Plame hadn't been undercover in years, or there is more being looked at here.


46 posted on 03/23/2005 4:11:43 PM PST by cyncooper
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crossing all the t's

lol


47 posted on 03/23/2005 4:12:59 PM PST by cyncooper
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To: Miss Marple; cyncooper; Howlin; Fedora

This is what the court said about Miller:

"..In the meantime, on August 12 and August 14, grand jury subpoenas were issued to Judith Miller, seeking documents and testimony related to conversations between her and a specified government official “occurring from on or about July 6, 2003, to on or about July 13, 2003, . . . concerning Valerie Plame Wilson (whether referred to by name or by description as the wife of Ambassador Wilson) or concerning Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium.” Miller refused to comply with the subpoenas and moved to quash them."

That week was the time between Wilson's and Novak's articles. The topic are are 1. Plame and 2. Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium.

Who's the "specified government official?


48 posted on 03/23/2005 4:14:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Shermy

Hey, if there is a specified government official, maybe the government already knows who it is. Maybe it was .....a sting!


49 posted on 03/23/2005 4:15:48 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple; Shermy
And note the grand jury wants to know what this official said about Plame"...or concerning Iraqi efforts to obtain uranium.”

Note "or" not "and". Again, a hint of a broader inquiry. At least it appears to go afield of the narrow Plame's name issue.

50 posted on 03/23/2005 4:19:41 PM PST by cyncooper
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