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Why We Don't Starve Humans
Catholic Match ^ | March 24, 2005 | Tim Drake

Posted on 03/24/2005 3:30:50 PM PST by NYer

Dr. Chris Kahlenborn is an internist in Altoona, Pennsylvania. He serves as president of the Polycarp Research Institute (www.polycarp.org). He spoke with Tim Drake about the dynamics and ethics of denying a person nutrition and hydration.

What happens to a person when he or she is denied food and water?

The first thing is that after 2-3 days you get extremely dehydrated. That results in a lot of changes in the body. Your mucous membranes and your skin get very dry. Your mouth cracks. It's very uncomfortable. Your urine becomes very concentrated and acidic, making it uncomfortable to urinate. Then your heart rate increases, your blood pressure decreases, and after about the third day, your kidneys start to develop problems. When the kidneys are damaged enough, they cannot get rid of the poison in the body. Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) builds up. The effect that this has on the body is to give you a type of lethargy, and has an almost anesthetic effect. It can also result in seizures. The poison builds up and drives the person towards unconsciousness after a period of days. The cause of death is usually seizures or cardiac arrhythmia because of an electrolyte imbalance.

That sounds painful.

The initial part of the process is pretty painful. Imagine playing a tennis match and not grabbing your Gatorade. Try not drinking anything for a day or two and you would get a sense of what it would feel like. You could say that the person eventually gets comfort, but it's after a lot of pain.

Is the denial of nutrition and hydration a standard practice in health care?


It's happening daily in hospitals, in hospices, in homes. It happens most often with patients who have Alzheimer's or who have suffered bad strokes. It's happening, yet no one is doing anything about it. Patients are often being denied stomach tubes per the family's request. Medical professionals are using the term "artificial nutrition and hydration" to say it's not natural. They are arbitrarily calling it artificial partly because the means of getting food into you require assistance. Yet, if you use that definition, babies should be starving too, because every baby needs our help in order to be fed.

Are Catholic medical professionals condoning this? 

They are split. The Catholic Medical Association (www.cathmed.org) has an excellent statement currently on their web site:  it reads:

    In March 2004, Pope John Paul II addressed an international congress of health care professionals convened in Rome to discuss the scientific advances and ethical dilemmas in the vegetative state. In the statement by the Vicar of Christ, "Life Sustaining Treatments and Vegetative State," he declares clearly and unequivocally that "the sick person in a vegetative state still has the right to basic health care…the administration of water and food, even when provided by artificial means, always represents a natural means of preserving life, not a medical act…Its use furthermore, should be considered in principle, ordinary and proportionate, and as such morally obligatory…Death by starvation or dehydration is, in fact, the only possible outcome as a result of their withdrawal. In this sense it ends up becoming, if done knowingly and willingly, true and proper euthanasia by omission."

This papal statement makes it absolutely clear that the withdrawal of food and water from Mrs. Schindler-Schiavo constitutes euthanasia, a gravely immoral act. We would add furthermore, that it represents a violation of her constitutionally protected right to life and a violation of her religious freedom as a Catholic.

They would argue rather strongly that food and hydration should be provided unless it's harmful or death is imminent. Some physicians have a pretty loose definition of imminent. For some that's an hour or two; for others it's six months. Death is imminent for all of us.

Are there times when the denial of nutrition or fluids is permissible?

The way I see it, there should always be some form of hydration. There may be a time in medicine when you don't have to place a stomach tube, but fluids should be continued to keep a person comfortable and to assist in hydration. If someone has metastatic cancer and has only a few hours or days to live, you wouldn't have to put in a stomach tube, but the person should be kept comfortable with I.V. fluids.


About the only case I can see where you might withhold fluids for a certain time would be congestive heart failure, but that's only temporary. It would be pretty hard to find a case where you wouldn't give a person fluids. In almost every case, nutrition should be given.

If a person has an injury, such as a chemical burn of the esophagus, and cannot eat any more, everyone would say that the person should be given a stomach tube. Yet, when you have a person with Alzheimer's, some people will say that they have lived their life and can slowly die of starvation by failing to place a stomach tube. When you do that, you're basing the entire decision upon intellectual ability and worth. If you take IQ out of it, you would treat the two people the same. If you argue that someone can't process the food otherwise, they should be given a stomach tube, then you need to give it to everyone.  I've never seen anyone who could challenge that argument.

Many of these arguments are similar to the abortion argument.

What is the Catholic Church's position with regard to nutrition and hydration?

Nutrition and hydration should always be given, unless it's directly harmful to the patient as noted by Pope John Paul II above.

Advance directives and living wills have become quite common. What do you see as the danger of such directives?

They are greatly misunderstood and greatly abused. My feeling is that the legal profession takes advantage of people's fears to rack up the money. Most lay Catholics have no clue what the Church's teaching is. They sign living wills all the time. Such directives often go against Catholic Church teaching. When you have a 30-year-old's directive saying he or she doesn't want food or water, or antibiotics, or blood products, that usually represents a gross misunderstanding of Church teaching. Most of the time, you should be getting those things. So many times people are signing something that is against Church teaching.

I'm not saying they are always wrong. You could have a carefully thought out "loving will" that focuses on the things that you do want, rather than the things that you don't want. It's better not to get into specifics, or there is the potential to be taken advantage of by lawyers. I helped one gentleman who was slowly dying to create a positive "loving will." It said that he did want food and hydration and consultation with someone before he died.

In the case of Terri Schiavo, why is the denial of nutrition and hydration wrong?

It's wrong in any circumstance, regardless of whether she said she didn't want it or her husband says she didn't want it. It's inherently evil to deny food and water to anyone unless it's going to make the person worse or death is within a few hours. It's independent from what she or her husband has said.

What of someone in a "persistent vegetative state" (PVS)?

Even in the case of someone in a persistent vegetative state, the Pope has said that the person should get food and water.

The definition of the persistent vegetative state is basically a person whose brain has been affected so that they make or perform no conscious or purposeful action. You can't make them follow a command, in theory. They do not talk.

My problem is that you don't know what is happening inside a person, of if they will be changing. Some people in a vegetative state have progressed to higher levels. The Pope has said that you should receive food and hydration, even in that state. There is a real black and white there.

Do you know whether it's permissible to starve an animal in the state of Florida?

That would be considered cruelty to animals. The Nazis tortured St. Maximilian Kolbe by trying to starve him. I think he lived for about 12 days. In the end, they gave him an injection of carbolic acid. Most people would say that you wouldn't do that to an animal.


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Tim Drake is a staff writer with the National Catholic Register, and author of the book "Young and Catholic: The Face of Tomorrow's Church " (Sophia Institute Press, 2004). He writes from Saint Joseph, Minnesota.
1 posted on 03/24/2005 3:30:52 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 03/24/2005 3:32:06 PM PST by NYer ("The Eastern Churches are the Treasures of the Catholic Church" - Pope John XXIII)
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To: NYer
The way I see it, there should always be some form of hydration.

Finally, someone who knows.

Thanks for this post.

3 posted on 03/24/2005 3:33:42 PM PST by MarMema ("America may have won the battles, but the Nazis won the war." Virginia Delegate Bob Marshall)
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To: NYer

We should revise our laws to require capital punishment for the offense of starving a human being.


4 posted on 03/24/2005 3:34:21 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: NYer

No mention of the "euphoria" or the "painless" way to go that the networks keep telling us


5 posted on 03/24/2005 3:39:17 PM PST by NewCenturions
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To: NewCenturions
No mention of the "euphoria" or the "painless" way to go that the networks keep telling us

Rub the Clintons the wrong way in Arkansas and you would end up decapitated......and the coroner would claim the cause of death to be natural causes.....

6 posted on 03/24/2005 3:43:30 PM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN (NO PRISONERS!!)
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To: NYer

Michael Schiavo: "I forgot to tell everyone, Terri didn't want to be a Catholic anymore so she doesn't believe that starving herself to death is so bad"


7 posted on 03/24/2005 3:44:47 PM PST by frogjerk
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To: NYer

The Schiavo case is not about the Right to Die, it is about the Right to Kill.


8 posted on 03/24/2005 3:49:42 PM PST by PeterFinn ("Tolerance" means WE have to tolerate THEM. They can hate us all they want.)
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To: NewCenturions
No mention of the "euphoria" or the "painless" way to go that the networks keep telling us...

This is why not having a balanced (heck, even conservative) broadcast television network and more conservative newspapers beyond the very few that publish is so frustrating, at least to me. If we did, the sheeple out there would be truly informed about what is being done to that poor woman.

As it is, after Terri dies, this will be neatly covered up for the masses.

9 posted on 03/24/2005 3:52:41 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

Where's the Elian rescue squad when we need them? Get the swat teams to bust down the door and get her out of there.


10 posted on 03/24/2005 3:56:55 PM PST by OhREALLY?
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To: NYer

I fear a day of reckoning is coming. Not for myself, but for Schiavo and his fellow travellers and abettors.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 4:00:05 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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To: OldPossum

I live out "in the boonies" and even the girls at the hair salon (classic gossip location) think starving an innocent woman is terrible and that the husband is a skunk - regardless of what the networks tell them. Thank heavens Some people can still think for themselves and see clearly that this is EVIL.


12 posted on 03/24/2005 4:01:19 PM PST by NewCenturions
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To: NYer

**The way I see it, there should always be some form of hydration.**

Says it all right there.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 4:31:21 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

No offense intended to present company, but what do they mean, "we"?


14 posted on 03/24/2005 4:33:20 PM PST by RichInOC (SATAN: HOW ARE YOU MICHAEL!! ALL YOUR SOUL ARE BELONG TO US. HA HA HA HA....)
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To: NYer
If they wouldn't take it seriously, someone ought to ask the Democrats if they could save Social Security by killing the elderly?

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15 posted on 03/24/2005 5:15:28 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (never surrender, this is for the kids)
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To: NYer
The first thing is that after 2-3 days you get extremely dehydrated. That results in a lot of changes in the body. Your mucous membranes and your skin get very dry. Your mouth cracks. It's very uncomfortable. Your urine becomes very concentrated and acidic, making it uncomfortable to urinate. Then your heart rate increases, your blood pressure decreases, and after about the third day, your kidneys start to develop problems. When the kidneys are damaged enough, they cannot get rid of the poison in the body. Blood urea nitrogen (BUN) builds up. The effect that this has on the body is to give you a type of lethargy, and has an almost anesthetic effect. It can also result in seizures. The poison builds up and drives the person towards unconsciousness after a period of days. The cause of death is usually seizures or cardiac arrhythmia because of an electrolyte imbalance.

I'm not given to crying, but I'm choking back tears and rage reading this. Sheer utter rage.

Regards, Ivan

16 posted on 03/24/2005 5:17:23 PM PST by MadIvan (One blog to bring them all...and in the Darkness bind them: http://www.theringwraith.com/)
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To: NYer

This is a very good article. I'm glad it mentioned the 'living will' idea. It's good to know what Catholic teaching is on the matter.


17 posted on 03/24/2005 5:21:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: NYer

Excellent article!


18 posted on 03/24/2005 5:36:26 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: RichInOC

No offense to present company, but I think they mean we humans.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 5:43:32 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: MadIvan

If it's any consolation, there are many like you who feel for Terri in her horrific situation. Not all of us are pro-death. Be thankful that you are capable of feeling compassion unlike some here who have no pity. Try to channel your anger constructively either through prayer or action.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 7:50:00 PM PST by Scarlet7
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