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Gov. Bush Frustrated by Schiavo Roadblocks
AP/Yahoo News ^ | March 24, 2005 | BRENDAN FARRINGTON

Posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:21 PM PST by FairOpinion

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. - It's not often Gov. Jeb Bush is frustrated pursuing his goals. He was the first governor to start a statewide school voucher program. He got rid of civil service protections for tens of thousands of state workers. He pushed through billions of dollars in tax cuts. His goal of prolonging the life of Terri Schiavo is proving much harder.

"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush told The Associated Press on Thursday. "I don't have embedded special powers. I wish I did in this particular case."

Bush canceled travel plans Thursday to monitor the case of Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman who has gone without food and water since a judge ordered her feeding tube removed March 18.

He was in constant contact with his legal office, ordered staffers to e-mail and call him with developments and demanded state laws be scoured for a way to reconnect Schiavo's feeding tube.

At his office, Bush waved an affidavit from neurologist William Cheshire that questions whether Schiavo is in a persistent vegetative state. The emotion in his voice rose as he detailed how the affidavit stated Schiavo made a crying sound, grimaced and pressed her eyebrows together when a doctor said he was going to turn her over.

She "signals her anticipation of pain. Just like you would, or just like I would. Now is it perfect? Is she responding with the same eloquence that you would respond to? ... No. She's severely, profoundly disabled," Bush said.

The governor's court record is mixed. He succeeded in removing affirmative action guarantees from state hiring and university admission practices, but a law requiring doctors to notify parents if they perform an abortion on minor girls was thrown out.

Still, he's been persistent. After a court threw out a law requiring tougher sentences for three-time felons, the governor went back to the Legislature and fixed the problem. Currently, he and lawmakers are working on a plan to require parents be notified before their minor daughters get abortions.

In the Schiavo case, he's running out of legal avenues — but not hope.

"You know what I hope for first and foremost? That Mr. Schiavo would say, 'I'm going to let Terri be with her parents. I'm going to move on with my life. I've made my point,'" Bush said, referring to Schiavo's husband, Michael, who insists she would not want to be kept alive artificially. "That obviously doesn't appear to be happening."

"So secondly I pray for an openness by the people who are responsible for making these decisions so we can act and allow for her to stabilize."

He says the courts appear to have turned a deaf ear to his arguments.

"For this lockdown to occur without having the ability to have an open mind, and say, 'Well, maybe there are new facts on the table, maybe there are new technologies, maybe, just maybe, we should be cautious about this' ... is very troubling," Bush said.

In 2003, when the Legislature passed a law allowing Bush to order the feeding tube reinserted after it had been removed, critics accused him of political grandstanding as his brother, President Bush (news - web sites), sought re-election.

Justin Sayfie, Bush's former communications director, said they were wrong: "He's term-limited out. His brother is term-limited out."

"Most strategists or political operatives would say 'Don't touch this,'" said GOP political strategist Geoffrey Becker, noting polls show most people don't believe government should be involved in the case. "I firmly believe that this is his personal conviction, that he believes this is the right thing to do."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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I hope I will be permitted to post this in Front Page news.

The reason is that so many people say that Gov. Bush should have done more and he didn't do enough, and this article shows that he is going above and beyond, leaving no stone unturned to save Terri.

With so many posts, if I posted it to another thread, a lot of people would miss it, and I think Gov. Bush deserves that people know how hard he is trying to save Terri.

1 posted on 03/24/2005 6:51:22 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion

I share his frustration.


2 posted on 03/24/2005 6:52:25 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: FairOpinion

I want to know why the courts are free to ignore the authority of the legislature, the U.S. Congress & the executive branch, while the governor for some reason feel obligated to kowtow to the courts.


3 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:47 PM PST by Sloth (I don't post a lot of the threads you read; I make a lot of the threads you read better.)
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To: FairOpinion


"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush told The Associated Press on Thursday.


Jeb! You were elected as the executive authority of the state of Florida! All state civil servants take their orders from you! You have a judiciary engaged in a conspiracy to concel evidence and to assist in murder. Your citizens have the RIGHT TO LIFE!

Act, Jeb. Play the man!
4 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:47 PM PST by farmer18th ("The fool says in his heart there is no God.")
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To: FairOpinion

Some people just don't feel normal if they aren't bitching. Jeb is doing all he can, bottom line.


6 posted on 03/24/2005 6:54:53 PM PST by GoCocks
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To: FairOpinion

Can't he send in police or National Guards to save her? This is a ligfe in danger because of judicial activism! She will die if he does nothing!


7 posted on 03/24/2005 6:55:56 PM PST by Dubya_4ever_USA
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To: FairOpinion

i don't have any issue with either president bush or governor bush on this. they've done more than others in their place would have done.

but i find the death of this woman disgusting.

i cannot believe that our country is so mean-spirited (to use a democrat term).


8 posted on 03/24/2005 6:57:14 PM PST by ken21 ( if you didn't see it on tv, then it didn't happen. /s)
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To: FairOpinion

I only hope that regarless of how the Schiavo issue is resolved. that the governor will take it upon himself to force some changes in his state's corrections and law enforcement departments. Maybe he can prevent some future child molester from being paroled, or if paroled then at least keep track of the molester's whereabouts. That might keep some future 9 year old girl from being abducted, assaulted for a day or two, and then buried a few hundred yards from her own bedroom.


9 posted on 03/24/2005 6:59:51 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA
Can't he send in police or National Guards to save her? This is a ligfe in danger because of judicial activism! She will die if he does nothing!

YES, if he had the political will and intestinal fortitude to have a knock-down drag-out fight with the judiciary. He doesn't, and the judges have won. They are now the ultimate authority in Florida.
10 posted on 03/24/2005 7:01:56 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Sloth

Excellent point.

I've often wondered that too.


11 posted on 03/24/2005 7:03:23 PM PST by MplsSteve
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To: FairOpinion
the only "thing" that Jeb Bush can do is act on his constitutional authority as chief executive of Florida and have the DCF act on its statutory function and take terri into protective custody while abuse is being investigated.

Bush is like the Schindlers....there is nothing going to come through the courts and time is growing shorter. He must ACT and not rely on a court.He can if he will

Greer should be held in contempt of Congress and is violating the law by not holding a de novo review of the case

12 posted on 03/24/2005 7:03:41 PM PST by kingattax (If you're cross-eyed and dyslexic, can you read all right ?)
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To: farmer18th

Today, even the brilliant Judge Bork stated flatly that both President Bush and Governor Bush were out of options -- very sad, but very true.


13 posted on 03/24/2005 7:04:11 PM PST by DrDeb
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To: Dubya_4ever_USA
She will die if he does nothing!

No, if Terri dies it's because Michael Schiavo and the judges want her to die. Jeb is doing EVERYTHING within the law to save her.

14 posted on 03/24/2005 7:10:18 PM PST by silent_jonny (Pro-Life, Pro-Terri)
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To: FairOpinion
"The reason is that so many people say that Gov. Bush should have done more and he didn't do enough,"

"The world will little note, nor long remember what we say here, but it can never forget what they did here. "

They watched a woman "starve to death"...legally

15 posted on 03/24/2005 7:12:43 PM PST by hoot2
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To: DrDeb
If that's the case, then it's up to the people.
16 posted on 03/24/2005 7:13:19 PM PST by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: FairOpinion
"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush told The Associated Press on Thursday. "I don't have embedded special powers. I wish I did in this particular case."

I wish I'd kept a ping list for this one.

17 posted on 03/24/2005 7:13:43 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: silent_jonny
No, if Terri dies it's because Michael Schiavo and the judges want her to die. Jeb is doing EVERYTHING within the law to save her.

This was perfectly legal in Nazi Germany. Would you have advocated adherence to "the law" if you lived there and then instead of here and now?


18 posted on 03/24/2005 7:15:36 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: Howlin; Long Cut; Chad Fairbanks; Peach; PhiKapMom; Miss Marple; ohioWfan; Trinity_Tx; malakhi; ...

Well, well, well...ping.


19 posted on 03/24/2005 7:15:37 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: FairOpinion

I'll admit I've been emotional and yelled at a few people because I cannot understand how ANYONE would advocate death. I can understand lashing out in frustration at not being able to stop an innocent's woman Death by decree of the Judiciary.

But Jeb Bush and the President are not the enemies. Terri's family has stated they have no doubt he'd help if he could. perhaps they need to consider why they are on the opposite side of the most affected members.


20 posted on 03/24/2005 7:16:28 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: GoCocks
Some people just don't feel normal if they aren't bitching. Jeb is doing all he can, bottom line.

You nailed it.

21 posted on 03/24/2005 7:16:40 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: FairOpinion

Jeb Bush is a wimp, just like his father and brother.


22 posted on 03/24/2005 7:17:51 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (Congress is defined as the United States Senate and House of Representatives; now read 1st Amendment)
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To: FairOpinion

23 posted on 03/24/2005 7:18:05 PM PST by Fitzcarraldo
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To: FairOpinion
"It is frustrating for people to think that I have power that I don't, and not be able to act," Bush told The Associated Press on Thursday. "I don't have embedded special powers. I wish I did in this particular case."

OH, puhleeeze, Governer. Don't go there. You do have the power and many of us understand THAT including you. You had the power to do somehing about this LOG, LOG ago. And you know it.

Sorry, FO, the Governer waited to long to begin TURNING the STONES. He's got one more big one he can overturn, but won't.

24 posted on 03/24/2005 7:18:10 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: FairOpinion

Most people forget about the power of the Sheriff.

A growing number of concerned, alarmed, and dismayed individuals, as well as groups, are becoming aware of a dangerous move to ELIMINATE LOCAL COUNTY SHERIFFS' OFFICES and LOCAL law enforcement. The tradition of local government emphasizes the importance of local sheriffs as the SUPREME AUTHORITY in the counties. That is why the sheriff is elected by the people, not appointed. The county sheriff, as the only elected law enforcement position in the county, and holding this traditional position of high authority, can step in to uphold his duties of protecting the people of his county. A sheriff is a part of our system of checks and balances so that government cannot misuse its authority. Local sheriffs MUST NOT abdicate their authority or duties to ANYONE (judges, government, county commissioners, local chieftains etc.) except TO THE CONSTITUENTS THEY SERVE as a proper functionary of local county government. That is why the sheriff is elected by the people, not appointed to become a mouthpiece, instrument, or representative of the Federal Government or any of its agencies.


25 posted on 03/24/2005 7:21:20 PM PST by Mr Cobol (Berry AuH2O464 and conservative ever since!)
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To: MTOrlando
Can't he send in police or National Guards to save her? This is a ligfe in danger because of judicial activism! She will die if he does nothing!
YES, if he had the political will and intestinal fortitude to have a knock-down drag-out fight with the judiciary. He doesn't, and the judges have won. They are now the ultimate authority in Florida.


EXACTLY. All Jeb has to do is to declare a state of emergency in Pinellas County, send in Florida National Guard troops as the local judicial system has become clearly corrupt in their efforts to murder an innocent woman, take that citizen of Florida into protective custody, place her in the best medical facility available, and direct the doctors to first reconnect the feeding tube and hydrate Terri, then after stablizing her, conduct a full battery of diagnostic tests, including an MRI, and when she is able to make any sort of rudimentary communication (and she will), have Charlie Crist present to see if she can give any information on how she 'collapsed' 15 years ago.

THAT is Michael Schiavo's worst nightmare. THAT is why he wants her to die, THAT is why he wants her cremated immediately after death.

Jeb can prevent this, all he has to do is pick up the phone.
26 posted on 03/24/2005 7:23:12 PM PST by Mad Mammoth
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To: FairOpinion
Thanks for posting this,F O.

You knew, of course, that the thundering herd of Jeb trashers would pounce.

That the very man who has kept Terri alive is suddenly to be the man to be villified seems to be a popular pastime around here.

27 posted on 03/24/2005 7:23:37 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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To: MTOrlando; All


28 posted on 03/24/2005 7:24:36 PM PST by M. Espinola (Freedom is never free!)
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To: smoothsailing

I want to know how many of these are trolls. It's clear some are disruptors using old accounts to stir trouble.


30 posted on 03/24/2005 7:25:31 PM PST by Soul Seeker
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To: smoothsailing
That the very man who has kept Terri alive is suddenly to be the man to be villified seems to be a popular pastime around here.

They are feeling inadequate because they are watching her die and are not physically intervening to save her. She is being crucified over a week's time.

31 posted on 03/24/2005 7:25:50 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: PhilipFreneau
Jeb Bush is a wimp, just like his father and brother.

They are just a bunch of worthless hypocrites with no real convictions. There is a clear cut case of right and wrong here and the Bushs' have decided to stand by expediency.
32 posted on 03/24/2005 7:26:05 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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Thats,"LONG, LONG ago."

It's bad enough to misspell a word once, but twice??? This case really does have me fatigued.

34 posted on 03/24/2005 7:27:37 PM PST by TAdams8591 (The call you make may be the one that saves Terri's life!!!!!!)
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To: MTOrlando

You're on thin ice, bub.


35 posted on 03/24/2005 7:29:17 PM PST by silent_jonny (Pro-Life, Pro-Terri)
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To: varmintxer

Seems that people forget a major point, when they say, "legally his hands are tied."

The point is that legality only exists within the framework of Natural Law. This is why the Founding Fathers were willing to fight when England said that there could be no compromise on the violation of the natural rights that the colonists in the Americas.

Natural Law surpasses any US legal law. A Moral Law can be illegal and a Legal Law can be immoral. If a law is deemded immoral, then anyone with the ability had the moral obligation to act.

Jeb Bush is violating Natural Law and therefore acting immoral. Whether or not his actions of taking her out of there being legal or illegal is of no consequence.


37 posted on 03/24/2005 7:29:42 PM PST by timburton
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To: blownawaybylibs
if a little degenerate judge from a florida backwater has more power than the governor of florida and the PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES -we are all in SERIOUS trouble.

You can say that again. Time to work on an "exit strategy".
38 posted on 03/24/2005 7:30:02 PM PST by MTOrlando
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To: blownawaybylibs

^Obvious troll


39 posted on 03/24/2005 7:30:04 PM PST by silent_jonny (Pro-Life, Pro-Terri)
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To: FairOpinion

Hands tied? Bull! He has the state police at his disposal. And even the national guard.


41 posted on 03/24/2005 7:31:52 PM PST by WKUHilltopper
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Jeb Bush is a wimp, just like his father and brother.

I assume you posted this from your PDA or SmartPhone outside the hospice.

42 posted on 03/24/2005 7:33:35 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: FairOpinion
I don't believe everything has been done. Greer has ordered not only that her feeding tube be removed but also that no one can give her food or water by mouth!.. Now that is a blatantly illegal order and you don't have to be a lawyer to figure that one out! I defy anyone to provide legal justification for a judge -- even in Florida -- to order that an innocent person convicted of no crime cannot be allowed to take food and water by mouth just like every other human on earth. I have heard nothing of a challenge to this order by Jeb Bush on the radio or TV talk shows.

Bush is so intent on getting the feeding tube in they are overlooking the fact that she may be able to take nourishment by mouth. She is swallowing saliva and we don't know that she can't handle nourishment by mouth because Greer and Michael have prevented any attempts. She has the basic human right to try. Has anyone attempted to challenge Greer on this? If Greer exceeded his authority and violated her basic human rights in his zeal to kill her then the Governor has every right and obligation to step in and stop this judicial abuse of her human rights and he can do it right now. The problem seems to be he wants the courts permission to do the right thing but he isn't going to get it.

43 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:39 PM PST by politeia
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To: af_vet_1981

Could be true for some, I suppose.I Know it frustrates me.


44 posted on 03/24/2005 7:34:53 PM PST by smoothsailing (Eagles Up !!)
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>> I assume you posted this from your PDA or SmartPhone outside the hospice.

Actually I posted this from my home in Pennsylvania. Why did you make that assumption?


46 posted on 03/24/2005 7:35:06 PM PST by PhilipFreneau (Congress is defined as the United States Senate and House of Representatives; now read 1st Amendment)
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To: smoothsailing

Of course it is frustrating watching this innocent woman being starved to death. We should not ask others to do what we will not do.


47 posted on 03/24/2005 7:36:51 PM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: PhilipFreneau

Because you called another man a wimp. I didn't figure someone who would do that would be sitting comfortably in his house, while Jeb Bush works day and night to find a legal way to rescue this woman.


48 posted on 03/24/2005 7:39:36 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Gnome sayin'?)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

Amen, sister.


49 posted on 03/24/2005 7:40:17 PM PST by silent_jonny (Pro-Life, Pro-Terri)
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To: blownawaybylibs

Speaking of trolls.


50 posted on 03/24/2005 7:40:55 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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