...Strategery "Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, in Texas we call it 'walking'."
Posted on 03/25/2005 2:06:57 PM PST by West Coast Conservative
Many of Iraq's predominantly Sunni Arab insurgents would lay down their arms and join the political process in exchange for guarantees of their safety and that of their co-religionists, according to a prominent Sunni politician.
Sharif Ali Bin al-Hussein, who heads Iraq's main monarchist movement and is in contact with guerrilla leaders, said many insurgents including former officials of the ruling Ba'ath party, army officers, and Islamists have been searching for a way to end their campaign against US troops and Iraqi government forces since the January 30 election.
“Firstly, they want to ensure their own security,” says Sharif Ali, who last week hosted a pan-Sunni conference attended by tribal sheikhs and other local leaders speaking on behalf of the insurgents.
Insurgent leaders fear coming out into the open to talk for fear of being targeted by US military or Iraqi security forces' raids, he said.
Sharif Ali distinguishes many Sunni insurgents, whom he says took up arms in reaction to the invasive raids in search of Ba'athist leaders and other “humiliations” soon after the 2003 war, from the radical jihadist branch associated with Jordanian militant Abu Musab al-Zarqawi.
Unlike Mr Zarqawi's followers, who are thought to be responsible for the big suicide bomb attacks on Iraqi civilian targets, the other Sunni insurgents are more likely to plant bombs and carry out ambushes against security forces and US troops active near their homes.
Sharif Ali said the success of Iraq's elections dealt the insurgents a demoralising blow, prompting them to consider the need to enter the political process.
I like the strategy we've been using. Kill the bastards.
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Seems to be working pretty good so far.
“Firstly, they want to ensure their own security,” says Sharif Ali
They blow up old women on street corners, but now they want somebody to look out for “their own security.”
Cowardly pricks.
Hang 'em High!
These harmless little fuzz-ball Baathist dead-enders are not like those terrorists. They just plant teeny-tiny, hardly-worth-mentioning car bombs. More like firecrackers than real bombs, they are. I'm sure the Financial Times would not mind having one of these bombs go off in the lobby of their building, even. It might damage the paint, but surely nobody would get hurt!
It depends on their records. If they've spent years torturing and murdering people, then it's not a good bet that the friends and families of their victims will give them a free pardon.
...Strategery "Some folks look at me and see a certain swagger, in Texas we call it 'walking'."
I don't get this at all. If the rank-and-file slink back home and stop attacking people, who will find them? The few leaders who are known to us (except Zarqawi) can easily negotiate a settlement by turning in the weapons and agreeing to stay out of trouble.
This whole article makes no sense to me.
It means the heat's on. The decision is the Iraqis', of course. And they don't seem to be in a forgiving mood, at least at the moment. Too much blood, too many bodies.
"ormer officials of the ruling Ba'ath party, army officers, and Islamists have been searching for a way to end their campaign against US troops and Iraqi government forces since the January 30 election."
Bwhahahahahahhahahahahaha!!!
I know, they can join the political process in Algeria.
No, no, don't be afraid. Come on out...you don't even have to put down your guns (heheheh).
Those insurgents seemed to have found themselves in a genuine "quagmire."
Exactly. When your opponent is on his heels it is the perfect time to strike harder. As he begins to doubt himself and questions his cuase, up the levy and make the cost even higher. The only way to quell a guerilla opponent is to demoralize him.
I think you have to systematically remove his reasons for fighting. Make it very costly to excercise his options. By having the elections, we made their cause functionally obsolete. We need to make it clear now more than ever that we are coming to kill you if you continue to resist. The AKs will go back in the mud huts and they will integrate into society once again. That is the Baathists anyway. The Islamists are rabid killers, monsters who saw heads off in the name of their god. These vermin should simply be exterminated.
They can seek asylum in France....
Yep, they did a darn good job over the last week or so of stacking up terror-scum corpses.
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Islamists have been searching for a way to end their campaign against US troops and Iraqi government forces since the January 30 election.
How about just stopping it.
Good news bump! My recommendations:
1 Year imprisonment and release for the low-level Iraqi insurgents, with a small severance package after the 1 year so they can start a business. Big severance package for turning in mid-level or leadership level Iraqi insurgents. Still gotta stay in prison for a year, for your own protection, and to keep you off the field of battle.
5 Year imprisonment for mid-level Iraqi insurgents.
Firing squad for Iraqi insurgent leaders.
Fight to the death with the remaining non-Iraqi terrorists. They cannot be re-integrated. They must die or flee, preferably die. Having taken the wind out of the local insurgency, these guys will stand out like sore thumbs. Put a bounty on their heads. It would be like a Southerner trying to hide out in New York City. The minute he opens his mouth (accents being different), somebody will turn him in.
Go get 'em!
Aw...poor things....I recommend they put a pair of panties on their heads and walk directly to Abu Ghraib for "treatment".
"Iraq's insurgents seek exit strategy"
Translation: Now that we're losing, we don't want to play anymore. Waaahhhh!
Hmmm...interesting turn of events, if true. It was my, and others, opinion that the terrorists had lost their war January 30th. If they want to negotiate a surrender here is my suggestion:
Stop all attacks against coalition forces.
Stop all attacks against civilians.
Turn your guns on the jihadis and criminals in your midst.
Then we can talk. Otherwise, annihilation.
LOL.
Looks like the insurgency is going the way of Ted Kennedy's car @ Chappaquiddick: glug, glug, glug, glug.......
Really, Dr. Watson?
Works for me.
Just the ones we know about. Iraqi people have been tipping off the security forces about them for a while.
These guys must feel surrounded all of a sudden. That's too bad. There must be not that many volunteers from other countries left to kill along with them.
I am very happy you do write:}}}}}}Thank you!!!!
Bugs me: "insurgents." If they are not Iraqi, then they can leave the way they came. Of course, they are fair game on the way out.
If they are Iraqis, then they should be tried for their crimes.
Heh, good one!
Unless they hold a grudge forever like most in the Arab world.
Some of it goes back hundreds of years. Doesn't make sense to me. Guess because I am an American.
Awwww, such a shame. Poor babies. There was no mercy from Allah when they held all the cards.
..."...Insurgent leaders fear coming out into the open to talk for fear of being targeted by US military or Iraqi security forces' raids, he said."...
Here sunni, sunni, sunni. Nice sunni. WHACK.
Good point. I wonder if the Ft writer realizes that it's the Baathists and Sunnis who had the most access to Saddam's munitions. Zarqawi was not in any position to loot the muntion dumps as the U.S. was advancing on Baghdad. The Baathists and Republican Guard knew the house was coming down and where the goodies to carry on the struggle were located. These are bad guys who have much more deadly stuff than Zarqawi. Let them come completely clean, expose their weapons caches, AND give any info on Zarqawi and his minions and then we can talk about protecting their security.
IMHO Zarqawi is already under lock and key.
"Stop all attacks against coalition forces. Stop all attacks against civilians. Turn your guns on the jihadis and criminals in your midst. Then we can talk. Otherwise, annihilation"
Turning in, or turning their guns on the foreign jihadis would be a significant demonstration of goodwill.
Looks like the five mullah's are saying 'not tonight, we all have a headache'.
Well said!
Insurgent leaders fear coming out into the open to talk for fear of being targeted by US military or Iraqi security forces' raids, he said.
Gee, I can't image why.
Hammorabi
Iraq - 'The Past, Present and Future of the Cradle of Civilization'!
http://hammorabi.blogspot.com/archives/2004_11_01_hammorabi_archive.html
11/10/2004
Al Yarmouk Hospital Attacked!
AlYarmouk Causality Department (ER) is one of the busiest hospitals in Baghdad.
It is attended by many poor and middle class people and the local population.
Following the Fatwa of the 26 Saudi ignorant and illiterate thugs last week the terrorist attacks increased on civilians and service sites every where in Iraq. One of the targets following that Fatwa is the ER department of the Al Yarmouk Hospital.
While the medical staffs were busy treating the injured civilians from the attack on two ancient Churches (Saint Mathew and Saint George Churches) in Baghdad a thug who responding to the devils' fatwa commit a suicidal car attack in the ER department!
The attack resulted in killing some of the hospital staffs, patients, and bypassed civilians turning their bodies into pieces. Part of the ER was damaged leading to transferring the patients and injured to other hospitals.
The car which was used to do this devilish act was stolen police car.
Can any animal in this planet agree with such acts as resistance? The answer is no because the animals are kinder creatures than some of the sub-animals and sub-devilish human being.
Here are some other actions of the thugs that the ignorant fools and low self-esteem dirty cockroaches describe them as resistance to liberate Iraq!:
-Attacking hospitals
-Attacking mosques like what happened to Imam Ali shrine and in Karbala
-Bombing Churches
-Killing Christians, Yazidis, Sabbians, and other Iraqi non-Muslims
-Killing the Iraqi Muslims especially Shias
-Kidnapping & killing workers in humanitarians organisation like for children
-Destroying the Iraqi wealth like the oil pipelines, power and water stations
-Kidnapping & killing hospital doctors, and university lecturers
-Imposing their mentally retarded way of thinking on the people
-Killing the visitors of the shrine of Imam Hussein
-Terrorising women and children
These people and any one support them have nothing to do with Islam and Prophet Mohammad (PBUH) will definitely disown them if he is with us now and he will do so on the Day of Judgment. Their predecessors killed and beheaded his son Hussein!
He taught them before the principles of war is not to attack civilian, not to pull down a Church or a chapel or any other worship places, not to frighten a woman or a child or an elderly, not to damage or destroy a tree, to leave the farmer in his farm and the worker at his work, to treat the wounded and take care of them even if they are from the enemy, to treat the POW humanely and feed them from your food, and so on and so forth!
So, where are these thugs from Prophet Mohammad who when did the dialogue with the Christians of Najran handed them his Mosque to perform their Sunday prayer in it? Where are these thugs from Imam Ali who prayed in a Church and asked his follower to leave it for its own people and not touch it by any harm?
These people are wounded by a slander from and possessed by the devil and when he pushed them to commit their crimes he exonerate himself from it just prior to its final execution.
As it was described by the Holly Quran:
And when Satan made their deeds seem fair to them and said: No one of mankind can conquer you this day, for I am your protector. But when the armies came in sight of one another, he took Sight, saying: Lo! I am guiltless of you. Lo! I see that which ye see not. Lo! I fear Allah. And Allah is severe in punishmen (Quran: 8; 48)
whosoever killeth a human being for other than man slaughter or corruption in the earth , it shall be as if be had killed all mankind , and whoso saveth the life of one , it shall be as if he had : saved the life of all mankind . Our messengers came unto them of old with clear proofs (of Allah's sovereignty), but afterwards lo! Many of them became prodigals in the earth. (Quran: 5; 32)
On the other hand there should be no one taken by the deed of another person at all irrespective of the relation between them as we are seeing of kidnapping and killing relatives of other people to put pressure on them yet the victims have nothing to do with that. The Holy Quran said in this:
Each soul earneth only on its own account, nor doth any laden bear another's load. Then unto your Lord is your return and He will tell you that wherein ye differed (Quran: 6; 164)
posted by hammorabi @ 11/10/2004 11:16:48 AM
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