Jeb must act NOW, and he can, says Keyes (Also with JOSEPH FARAH)

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Jeb must act NOW, and he can, says Keyes
Governor has 'supreme executive power'

March 25, 2005
RenewAmerica staff

Thursday, Alan Keyes appeared on MSNBC's Scarborough Country with Joe Scarborough, and on Joseph Farah's national radio show, and declared that Gov. Jeb Bush not only possesses the "supreme executive authority in the state," but must act now to save Terri Schiavo.

When asked if Gov. Bush has done enough to help the disabled woman, Keyes said, "Of course not. He hasn't done anything. She is being starved to death!"

Keyes made it clear on both programs that Gov. Bush needs no permission from the courts to fulfill his statutory and constitutional duty to act in Terri's behalf, since the executive is equal to the judiciary.

To see the Joe Scarborough transcript, click here.

To see the Joseph Farah transcript, click here.

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[Valin]

I have never in my life seen such goings on and it all started in 2000!

I can't prove it but it probably started long before then. It was just below the radar.

[Critter]

It is ridiculous for people who support Terri to become as cannibals devouring their allies...

What good are allies that don't make the good fight when it counts? When they turn tail and run when the real battle starts?

Would you ever trust them again to cover your flank? Not me. Sorry. I'll find new allies thank you.

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

Free Republic Opinion Poll: How has Governor Bush's failure to defy Judge Greer and not have DCF take Terri Schiavo into protective custody affected your view of the Governor?

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/poll?poll=89

I have lost a great deal of respect for him. Judges need to be reigned in. This was a good opportunity to do so. 27.6% 1,255
No change in respect, but he should have defied Greer. 26.5% 1,206


54.1 % on FR say Jeb should defie Greer.

Jeb has NOTHING to lose.

Not runing for Gov again and not running for President in '08

Why does Jeb Bush follow man's law instead of God Law?

"Thou shall not kill"

Jeb Bush has the advantage of having 2 Presidents

in his family that he can seek advice from.

His father AND his brother.

But instead he listens to judges?

He should at least order lethal injection rather

than have this poor woman denied food and water.

Judges would demand that a criminal not be denies food and water.

Poor Terri does not even have the same protection criminals do.

PC Gone Insane!

God have mercy on this once great nation.

[Critter]

The problem is not that Bush has not exhausted his powers. The problem is that the courts have abused their powers.

So someone dies then, and nothing gets done about it?

Who, if not the executive, should step in to stop the abuse of power?

Jeb Bush lacks the testicular fortitude required to be a real leader. I hope this fact keeps him from holding future office.

[seekthetruth]

"I guarantee you that right now, Bush's cadre of dozens of conservative lawyers are telling him that he's done everything he can. I, being a conservative lawyer myself, agree. The problem is not that Bush has not exhausted his powers. The problem is that the courts have abused their powers."

Well, being a lawyer, can you tell me why Jeb Bush does not have the executive power to ingore courts that have abused their powers? Seems there are just as many conservative lawyers saying that Jeb can do more! What is the truth?

[Jeff Head]

TERRI'S OWN ACTIONS PROVE SHE HAS THE WILL TO LIVE

[E.G.C.]

BTT!!!!!!

[GodBlessUSA]

Hi Tonkin,
I wonder if there is something, we are unaware of, that prevents him from making a move. He almost did Wednesday night. I just can't believe, he would not do something if he could have. He did in 10/03. Maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt though. Maybe this entire situation has me so upset I don't know if I'm right or wrong any longer. I know he spent grueling hours getting the Florida senate to save Terri. The senate destroyed all hope for Terri. I know that my heart feels such pain for Terri and her family.

[mrs tiggywinkle]

In agreement with the two of you...

[68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub]

"I wonder if there is something, we are unaware of, that prevents him from making a move."

Well it's not because he can't get re-elected or ruin his chances for President.

He's NOT running in FL again and said he won't run for President.

God will judge all in the end.

Those who sat by and "worried" about man's law

And "politics"

Rather than save a helpless woman

And allowed her to suffer by starving her and giving her no drink

Will have to answer.

[Condor51]

Judges would demand that a criminal not be denied food and water.
Poor Terri does not even have the same protection criminals do.

Those have been my two biggest arguments also. It seems that insanity 'rules'.

[Smartass]

I don't agree!   Perhaps more could have been done.
I'm a Bush Supporter, but Both have fallen down on this issue!

Read all of the legal memos at post #3:
Legal Memos

 

[Dawgreg]

Yep, You're on the money on that one, Valin. We just saw how out of whack Florida is in 2000. *~*

[Lady Eileen]

bump

[CitizenM]

In Agreement to your Post – But To Others: Please – The Blame is on Michael and The Courts. Let Us Not Become Divided in our Support of Gov. Bush, and Pres. Bush. That is Exactly What the Opposition Wants - To Weaken Our Base and Cause Conflict and Dismay Within Our Ranks. Without The Bushes and Other Compassionate Republicans We Wouldn’t Even Have Had a Chance. The Democrats Certainly Wouldn’t Have Given This Any Serious Attention, or Tried In Any Manner To Save Terri - Not One Bit!

The Battles Are Waging; The War Is At Its Height. Believers Are Called to Be Wary and Faithful There are wonderings, murmurings, rumblings in the streets today: Could this truly be a time when we might observe some great symbolic, spiritual "sign" that will be so clear, so obvious and so shattering that it will rip the veil of darkness and cause a great epiphany to occur in the hearts and minds of non-believers and cynics worldwide? Think on this:

The world is so troubled now - the terror, unrest, dissention, criminal and immoral behavior are at a pinnacle. Daily new chaos is erupting, events of great trouble are piling heel upon heel, and we are spinning in a world filled with stress laiden stories. Our emotions are racing over events that cause even the most logical of persons to search for answers, and question the reason for the suffering and extreme ugliness that we have been observing in the past few months. Even those who understand that there is a tremendous battle being fought on the spiritual level between good and evil find it constantly challenging to hold onto complete faith in God's power over such strong forces that are now at hand.

Recently we had the tragic kidnapping and murder of sweet little Jessica Marie Lunsford. Yesterday the announcement that Jetseta Marie Gage had been abducted, and now it appears she was murdered also. Is it coincidence they both have a middle name in honor of the Blessed Mother? The battles are everywhere and we are given the suffering of two other pure souls to reflect upon:
Pope John Paul II, and Terri Schiavo.

The target of the strongest fight is the most holy of the land - our dear, loving, Holy Father, Pope John Paul II. Our strongest and most constant prayers are needed not for ourselves but for all of God’s strength and all of God's blessings be directed to him so that he can avenge the enemy who is longing to celebrate his demise. Without the presence and guidance of this holiest of men, evil will burst into an even more frightening rampage. There will be fights among even the holy men in the Vatican for power. There will truly be a turmoil in the Church, and gleeful laughter from the darkest souls and immoral spirits who will celebrate the world's loss of God's most powerful representative.

*************Terri Schiavo is caught in this battle because she is an easy earthly target and through her husband, whose soul has become one with the demon, evil has created a worldwide conflict that has caused an extreme chiasm between people of faith and non-faithful alike. When Terri passes those who will be the most sorrowful will be weak and be easily swayed to disbelieve in and question God's power and goodness. There will be many who will turn against God if Terri is not saved; and there will be the non-believers who will gleefully point at what they claim is a fallacy: that God is all powerful. They will stand ready to collect newly fallen souls into their ranks. We cannot fall prey to their temptations to go astray, to become violent, bitter or resort to unlawful acts.

Terri's fight is a prime, planned event of the devil's most devious, deceitful, design.

It is not a coincidence that these two people are suffering together while the whole world watches. It is also not a coincidence that this is occurring in Florida with Jeb Bush at the helm of government there, while his brother, George W. in charge of our nation. These two leaders who have deep moral beliefs and spiritual convictions are the thorns in the devil's side that he cannot tolerate. The fact that this has become a political game is the devil’s planned effect.

And as this unfolds and tears at the threads of judicial robes, and political "suits" Satan is cheerleading on the sidelines enjoying the volley. Whatever the outcome, whatever the time of their deaths, we must all remain ever vigilant, be most fearfully aware, and pray with the greatest fervor than at any other time in our own recent history.

St. Michael the Archangel, arm us well. Keep evil thoughts from filling our minds, and fill out hearts and souls with love. Help us to remain faithful believers through the trials that are now upon us. Keep the light shining brightly for us that we may always find our way in the thickening fog that will settle around us. Fill us with the courage of the Holy Spirit as we face our enemies who wait steadfastly to steal our faith and our belief in God’s profound love. Amen.

[Sun]

This is from a thread posted by Deo volente with CONTACT info for Governor Bush:

The Right to Life

National Review Online ^ | March 24, 2005 | William J. Bennett and Brian T. Kennedy

The "auxiliary precautions" of Florida government — in this case the Florida supreme court — have failed Terri Schiavo. It is time, therefore, for Governor Bush to execute the law and protect her rights, and, in turn, he should take responsibility for his actions. Using the state police powers, Governor Bush can order the feeding tube reinserted. His defense will be that he and a majority of the Florida legislature believe the Florida Constitution requires nothing less...

In taking these extraordinary steps to save an innocent life, Governor Bush should be judged not by the opinion of the Florida supreme court, a co-equal branch of the Florida government, but by the opinions of his political superiors, the people of Florida. If they disagree with their governor, they are indeed free to act through their elected representatives and impeach him. Or they can vindicate him if they think he is right. But he should not be cowed into inaction — he should not allow an innocent woman to be starved to death — because of an opinion of a court he believes to be wrong and unconstitutional...

Governor Bush pledged to uphold the Florida constitution as he understands it, not as it is understood by some Florida judges. He is the rightful representative of the people of Florida and he is the chief executive, in whom the power is vested to execute the law and protect the rights of citizens. He should use that power to protect Terri's natural right to live, and he should do so now.
http://nationalreview.com/comment/bennet_kennedy200503240814.asp

***ACTION to be taken:

Ask Governor Bush to act now and save Terri, and protect her right to life under the Florida Constitution.

CONTACT INFO for Jeb Bush:

Fax 850-921-9077
jeb.bush@myflorida.com
Phone 850-488-4441
Governor's Legislative Affairs Office: 1-850-488-5000

[Brilliant]

If he does more, then we've got a constitutional crisis because we're on unchartered ground.

Basically, you'd have the courts saying "we're the final authority on this," and you'd have Bush saying, "no, I'm the final authority on this."

In the abstract, it's not clear to me how it would come out as a LEGAL matter. The people who wrote the constitution intentionally did not give the answer to that question because they wanted the 3 branches of government to resolve that issue by fighting among themselves--the so-called "conflicting branches of government" idea. They thought that if that's how they set things up, then in the final analysis, it would be the desires of the people that were ultimately the deciding factor, because if one branch of government took too much power, then the other two branches--and the people--would ultimately smack it down.

So it's not clear who wins that fight, just from reading the constitution. However, as a practical matter, in this particular case, Bush would lose. The reason why he'd lose has nothing to do with what the constitution actually says, though. The reason is that the majority of the voters agree with the judge, and wish Bush would stay out of it. You can argue about whether we're talking about a 60% majority or an 80% majority, but it's pretty clear, I think, that the majority thinks the tube should be pulled. All you've got to do is read the posts on the Freerepublic to see that. Even the conservatives are divided on this issue.

Of course, that does not dispense with the moral issue, but we live in a democratic republic, and the majority controls, even if the majority opinion is immoral. Bush could defy the court, but it would not end in a pretty way. Possibly, he could end up in jail. As I said, we are on unchartered territory.

He's smart to save his ammo for a fight he can win. He can't win this one. He can win the gay marriage one, for example. That's why the courts have not pushed the gay marriage fight here in Fla. They would like to, certainly. But they know they'd lose for the same reason that Bush knows he'd lose this fight. The courts are smart enough, at least in Florida, to not take on a fight they'd ultimately lose.

[MHGinTN]

Nonsense, lawyer. Why did the executive, as a co-equal branch of Florida government BUT the one tasked to defend the citizens, go first to the executing Judge and ask his permission to remove Terri to protect her from the executing judge's sentence? Jeb is a disgusting posturer, nothing more. He has exhibited clintonesque leadership, thrusting his timid wet finger up to see if Greer will blow on it. Disgusting

[MHGinTN]

Greer signed off on Michael Schiavo raiding Terri's $700,000 awarded for her rehab to pay George Felos more than $300,000 for his efforts to have her 'legally' put down. Felos turned around and donate a hefty chunk to Greer's re-election campaign. Pat the governor on the back for staying in his place while the supreme florida judiciary runs things.

[monkeywrench]

"...but we live in a democratic republic, and the majority controls, even if the majority opinion is immoral"

So, we basically have no protection as individuals anymore. That makes this a democracy. Mobocracy. Whatever the mob wants, they get. The govt. loses legitimacy, too, then.