Jeb must act NOW, and he can, says Keyes (Also with JOSEPH FARAH)

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Jeb must act NOW, and he can, says Keyes
Governor has 'supreme executive power'

March 25, 2005
RenewAmerica staff

Thursday, Alan Keyes appeared on MSNBC's Scarborough Country with Joe Scarborough, and on Joseph Farah's national radio show, and declared that Gov. Jeb Bush not only possesses the "supreme executive authority in the state," but must act now to save Terri Schiavo.

When asked if Gov. Bush has done enough to help the disabled woman, Keyes said, "Of course not. He hasn't done anything. She is being starved to death!"

Keyes made it clear on both programs that Gov. Bush needs no permission from the courts to fulfill his statutory and constitutional duty to act in Terri's behalf, since the executive is equal to the judiciary.

To see the Joe Scarborough transcript, click here.

To see the Joseph Farah transcript, click here.

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[Dante3]

Of course Jeb Bush can and must act. Since when is it legal for a judge to order the death of an innocent person who doesn't even have a lawyer?

[EternalVigilance]

A Chief Executive who stands boldly for what is right always prevails over the Judiciary in this country. Always.

"The opinion which gives to the Judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional and what are not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the Legislature and Executive also in their spheres, would make the Judiciary a despotic branch." -President Thomas Jefferson

"The care of human life and happiness, not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government." -President Thomas Jefferson

The fundamental law of the United States is the Constitution. The President has the sacred duty to uphold the Fifth Amendment, which he swore a sacred oath to uphold.

Likewise, Governor Jeb Bush swore to uphold the constitution of the State of Florida.

Section Two of that foundational legal document clearly applies in this case, and even explicitly includes the disabled.

The situation as it stands is that the Judges have become lawless, and the other two branches are too weak and timid to stand them down before an innocent woman dies of thirst.

[Brilliant]

You might be right that when Bush stuck his toe in the water, he suspected that Greer would issue an order telling him to back off. You might even be right that he did so hoping that Greer's anticipated action would let him off the hook.

That does not mean, however, that if Bush had simply gone forward without putting his toe in the water, he would have prevailed. It just means that there would today be a huge debate about whether Bush should be arrested for contempt of court. My guess is that the appellate courts, Florida Supreme Court, and the United States Supreme Court would all be on Judge Greer's side, affirming orders that Bush be arrested.

[EternalVigilance]

Jeb is a disgusting posturer, nothing more.

Unless he acts swiftly, I will forever hold that opinion as well. And I will include his little brother in that estimation as well.

The Left never had a problem with using federal or state force to enforce fundamental civil rights in the past.

I'm still down here at the scene of the crime with many others; waiting, praying and hoping that the President and the Governor find the courage to order their political, legal and law enforcement armies into immediate action to secure life and liberty for Americans, not just for Afghanis and Iraqis.

If they will still do the right thing, before life ebbs away, I will repent of every nasty thought I've had about them in the last couple of days.

And they will restore my political support for them as well.

Because, as of this moment, they and the Republican Party have lost my support.

Put an IV in her arm and give her fluids.

That doesn't seem difficult, or too much to ask.

[Brilliant]

It's easy for the chief executive to stand up boldly against the judiciary when he holds all the cards in a particular fight. Give me an example where the chief executive successfully defied the courts by doing something that was unpopular. Give me an example where the chief executive successfully defied the courts without even having the support of the legislature.

Remember that the legislature had a chance to weigh in on this the other day, and voted not to do so. So the legislature is apparently siding with the courts in this situation.

[EternalVigilance]

That does not mean, however, that if Bush had simply gone forward without putting his toe in the water, he would have prevailed.

Either Bush can squash George Greer like the bug he is in two hours. Any other suggestion is ludicrous, and I don't know how any intelligent person can buy that malarkey.

[MHGinTN]

No, you missed the damn point: when Jeb ask Greer for his permission, he set himself up to fail on a 50/50 chance. Friend, that sure as hell isn't leadership; it's positively clintonesque. BUT the little boy in the corner, sent there by the real power in Florida, can now claim he did all he could, which is a lie because the way, the order in which he acted was just not leadership. See the difference?... I'm not accusing jeb of being smart enough to have planned a way to dodge responsibility, I'm accusing him of being too dumb and too timid to exhibit leadership he had the legal authority to exhibit.

[EternalVigilance]

Wrong. The legislature has acted previously to save her, and they allowed their will to be overruled by the stinking lawyers.

They're cowards, and have given their power away, both supposedly co-equal branches, to a pissant corrupt Republican probate judge.

It's unbelievable.

[Brilliant]

Agreed. But that's reality. If you live in a dream world, then you set yourself up for defeat. I'd rather Bush fight battles he can win. He can't win this one, even if he defies the judge.

[EternalVigilance]

The Governor's false claims of having done everything are just that: glaringly not true.

This is obvious on the face of it to anyone who uses three brain cells to think about what is happening.

[MHGinTN]

Terri is too far gone now to be brought back; once she gets plenty of morphine in her, to introduce fluids will destroy her kidneys. Terri is lost to us now. We have remaining an impotent, excuse spittling florida executive and a bitchslapped Congress. Not a peretty sight, my friend.

[EternalVigilance]

I'd rather Bush fight battles he can win. He can't win this one, even if he defies the judge.

I'd laugh if it wasn't for the fact that it is 'brilliant' people exactly like you who Governor Bush is taking his advice from.

But it's pure unadulterated horse manure.

[EternalVigilance]

It is ugly.

And the aftermath is going to be even uglier.

Satan is getting his pound of flesh.

[Brilliant]

It's not the lawyers--it's the judges. And the judges got away with it because the people are not demanding that the legislature and the executive defy the courts. Just because you are making that demand doesn't mean that "the people" are doing so. Far from it. Bush could not get away with defying the courts with the lukewarm (or worse) support he's gotten so far from the people, any more than the legislature could have. That's why both of them have backed off, and the judge has not.

My view is that the best way for indignant conservatives to stand up and be counted on this matter is "civil disobedience." I saw photos of people being arrested for defying the court order, but there weren't really that many who did so. A few dozen at most.

Did you try to bring Terri water? If you're not willing to defy this judge's order, then how do you get off criticizing Bush or the legislature?

[Brilliant]

It's kinda hard for Bush to bring himself to defy this judge when there is a room full of conservative lawyers telling him he can't do so without going to jail. And I guaranty you that's what they are telling him.

[EternalVigilance]

My friends, right now silence is sinful, IMHO.

Speak up on this thread, please...and everywhere the sound of your voice can carry.

This is the turning point for what is left of our republic.

[EternalVigilance]

Yes, they are.

Jay Sekolow is a disgrace, and all like him.

[Gelato]

Jeb Bush has the legal right to act, where the rest of us do not. In the Florida Constitution, Article IV, Section 8, the governor has the power to "restore civil rights" and "commute punishment." This power cannot be controlled or obstructed by the judiciary.

Terri's rights were taken away when Judge Greer ORDERED her to be starved to death. The judge wrote his opinion in such a way that there was no room for Michael to even changed his mind. It was mandatory that he remove the tube.

Therefore, in a true sense, Terri was sentenced to death. The governor can use his pardoning power in her case, and restore her rights.

[EternalVigilance]

You have no idea what I have or have not done.

Symbolic arrests accomplish nothing. Jeb Bush has given the power of the gun into the hands of a corrupt judge. No average citizen is getting into the doors of George Felos' 'Hotel Auschwitz'.

We don't need symbolism, we need a Chief Executive who will stop a murder in progress. We need action this second, not more lying talk and empty words and meaningless gestures.

All they have to do is give a dying woman a drink of water.

You lawyers can take all of your legalisms and stuff it.

Murdering a helpless woman by thirst violates every fundamental law of civilized people, and you know it.

[EternalVigilance]

"Woe to you lawyers, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel."