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Supreme Court gave everyone the "Right to Die" by State-enforced Starvation, in Cruzan tragedy.
1 posted on 03/26/2005 6:43:11 AM PST by zerosix
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I thought it was state's rights issue? (sarcasm)


2 posted on 03/26/2005 6:48:02 AM PST by LauraleeBraswell ( CONSERVATIVE FIRST-Republican second.)
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"She turned and looked at me and stared at me with a panicky look, sweating profusely, and the thought I had was, she was thinking, ‘Oh, here’s a policeman, he’ll help me.’ But we weren’t allowed to do that,” said Seneker. "

That poor woman.
How haunting for this man.


3 posted on 03/26/2005 6:48:04 AM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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Nancy's father, Joe, committed suicide in 1996, after being exhausted by the emotions of the legal fight and beaten down by the subsequent criticism that his family endured. Her mother, Joyce, died in 1999. Her sister, Chris Cruzan White, is the executive director of the Cruzan Foundation, which helps other families who face similar situations.

Chris Cruzan White
Executive Director
Cruzan Foundation
215 N. Cass, Carterville, MO 64835
Phone: 417-673-1473
Email: cjcruzan@joplin.com

I wonder what the position of the Cruzan foundation is. I think it advocates making the tough decision of ending life by witholding the basic necessities of life, food and water. I don't know that for a fact, but the vagueness of the Cruzan Foundation website is a hint as to its leaning.

4 posted on 03/26/2005 6:48:45 AM PST by Cboldt
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"Nancy's father, Joe, committed suicide in 1996, after being exhausted by the emotions of the legal fight and beaten down by the subsequent criticism that his family endured"

Michael doesn't really look like the type to reflect on what he has done.

Nevertheless, the Schindlers have one great gift. They can know they have done absolutely everying to try and save their daughter. And I DO believe what comes around, goes around.

Michael won't be the first person to have found a legal way to murder his wife, but he will pay, somehow, somewhere, someway. And then of course there is the problem with one day facing Jesus Christ, who told this little story...

"Then He (Jesus) will say to those at His left hand, Begone from Me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels!"

"For I was hungry and you gave Me no food, I was thirsty and you gave Me nothing to drink,"

"I was a stranger and you did not welcome Me and entertain Me, I was naked and you did not clothe Me, I was sick and in prison and you did not visit Me."

"Then they also [in their turn] will answer, Lord, when did we see You hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or sick or in prison, and did not minister to You?"

"And He will reply to them, Solemnly I declare to you, in so far as you failed to do it for the least [in the estimation of men] of these, you failed to do it for Me."

"Then they will go away into eternal punishment, but those who are just and upright and in right standing with God into eternal life."


5 posted on 03/26/2005 7:02:13 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Mrs Zip

ping


7 posted on 03/26/2005 8:00:48 AM PST by zip (Remember: DimocRat lies told often enough became truth to 48% of Americans)
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To: zerosix

In the future please provide a link to the article's source.

Please do not change the title of the article.

Thank you.


8 posted on 03/26/2005 8:15:19 AM PST by Sidebar Moderator
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To: zerosix
To all who have responded to my post: There is a clear line -

1. God alone chooses the time of our death (either by permitting it or commanding it) -

2. Withholding of food and water is not "allowing, permitting or a natural death process", else we would not have animal abuse laws preventing starvation of those animals who are kept from food and water.

We show pictures on tv and in newspapers of animals who are or were starved and consider the people who do it society's lowest form of sadist. When found they are arrested, charged with various felonys, tried and after being found guilty, sentenced to lengthy time behind bars.

Starvation is a hideous process that in the end kills a living being.

If we are so quick to condem people for starving defensless animals, how can we claim any remanent of humanity when we command by judicial fiat that any State starve one of it's citizens, merely because a person is unable to care for him or herself?

The case of Terri Schiavo is the clearest for all people - we know that the Supreme Court have declared that the innocent unborn, have been declared as having no right to live, are we now selecting born people and declaring that they also have no right to live? If so, all of the history of the Holocaust and every evil of Adolph Hitler's "Crimes Against Humanity" are now permissible in 2005 United States of America.

9 posted on 03/26/2005 8:25:54 AM PST by zerosix
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To: PhilDragoo

ping


10 posted on 03/26/2005 5:41:31 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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To: zerosix
In fact, Seneker and other officers were required to prevent others from helping her

One of the major things that came out of Lt. Calley's trial was that henceforth, both combat officers and enlisted men were to confine themselves to cooperating with legal orders. If an order seemed illegal, they were to question it on that basis. Such a mandate puts a soldier in a difficult position - he better have a damn good reason for questioning. But in these cases, where there is no risk of the VC overrunning your position because you held off on an order you thought might be a tad genocidal, the policeman here had time to ask himself: is what I'm doing legal?

He participated in the killing of a citizen whose rights he was sworn to uphold. Did he stop to ask anyone where they got the authority to deprive Nancy Cruzan of her right to life? The only thing that would have been at risk was his job. Big deal. Her life was at risk.

The Nuremburg trials established that "due obediance" was not a defense when it came to officers of the law or the army committing crimes against humanity, which are generally recognized to be crimes which deprive people of their rights without just cause.

It's not OK for all of these municipal and county employees to participate in murder and defend it by saying "just followin' orders, folks". Both they and the Judge who ordered such things are liable to the same charges as anyone else when they engage in abuse of power leading to the deprivation of rights, which is not an insignificant thing.

11 posted on 04/03/2005 2:13:11 PM PDT by Regulator
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Her sister, Chris Cruzan White, is the executive director of the Cruzan Foundation, which helps other families who face similar situations]]]

Ah, yes, the Cruzan 'family gift':

http://www.calregistry.com/dyk/cruzan.htm

tom


13 posted on 04/03/2005 11:53:06 PM PDT by tacomonkey2002 (a Stranger in a strange world)
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"Her sister, Chris Cruzan White, is the executive director of the Cruzan Foundation, which helps other families who face similar situations {want to kill their relatives]."
18 posted on 04/16/2005 12:54:12 PM PDT by jocon307 (Irish grandmother rolls in grave, yet again!)
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My first thought is that perhaps Joe Cruzan committed suicide from guilt over having killed his daughter.

At least, that's what I hope.


19 posted on 04/28/2005 12:01:55 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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