Did the Jews kill Christ (or was Jesus a Victim of Identity Theft)?

http://www.crosstalk.org ^ | 12/2004 | Dr. Randy Weiss

[Voir Dire]

The perpetuation of "the Jews killed Christ" dogma is nothing more than thinly-veiled rationalization for anti-Semitism.

[LauraleeBraswell]

Well, IT WASN'T the IRISH!


Let's be honest. It was a Jewish area, Jesus was Jewish, his mother was Jewish and some of his Jewish apostles spread Christianity.

That's like asking, did the Americans kill dr. Martin Luther King? (I know he's far from Jesus but the analogy stands) or how about, "Did the Indians assassinate Ghandi?"

[Sender]

Everyone who sins had a hand in it...myself included.

[newzjunkey]

Newsflash: you weren't born yet.

[Cicero]

This is much too complicated a matter to answer in a few words, but the best and only direct historical evidence we have is the gospels.

They suggest that the Jewish Temple leadership wanted Christ's death for blasphemy: that is, for claiming to be the promised Messiah. The Jews had no power to execute anyone, so they turned him over to the Romans with the suggestion that He was seditious and wanted to be king. Pontius Pilate found Him innocent, but ordered Him crucified in order to avoid a riot and consequent loss of his job.

So Jesus was killed by Jews (not THE Jews) and by Romans. He himself and all the early disciples were Jewish.

The traditional Christian view is that Jesus died to atone for the sins of ALL MEN (and for you feminists, that includes women & children). Therefore all of us are responsible for His death.

[Doc Savage]

With whom did Judas Iscariot deal with? He didn't betray Christ to the Romans. Why would the Romans want him dead? The last thing they needed was another martyr.

Why do people like you always feel compelled to "pull the monkey off the backs" of the Jews?

Clearly, Christ, a Jew, was betrayed by a Jew, to the Jewish temple aristocracy. Clearly the Jews demanded his death. Who nailed him to the cross is only incidental here.

You should elucidate your compulsion to post things like this so we can better understand your motives.

Are you a Jew? Do you have ties to the author? Explain your motivation.

[rabidralph]

Really?

[Sybeck1]

Jesus was a Jew, did you know?

[MWS]

We all killed Jesus.

It's just that the Jewish leaders acted as our voices and the Romans acted as our hands. But they are in no sense more responsible than the rest of us.

[SkyPilot]

Newsflash: you weren't born yet.

What a cynical, mean sarcastic thing to say to Sender. You know exactly what was meant by that very humble and gracious comment--that Christ died for the sins of world, past, present, and future.

If that comment is indictitive your personality, I would not like meeting you.

[stuartcr]

How does this have any impact on the world today?

[Ibredd]

Are we talking predestination here, and or you saying it would not have made any difference where he was born into mankind the result would have been the same.

[stuartcr]

I don't understand how you came to this conclusion.

[normy]

Jesus was not poor, although he became poor on the cross. I do not know if he was rich as the world sees it but I know he worked and probably hard. His parents received valuable gifts from the wise men that probably helped them start their married lives off quite well. When Jesus needed tax money, he told Peter to catch a fish and the money was in its mouth. When he needed to feed thousands he blessed a small portion and fed them all. When Peter was working all day fishing and came home empty, Jesus blessed him with so many fish he could barely take them in. That sounds like he probably made a good amount of money on that transaction.

Jesus ate food and drank wine (he even turned water to wine at a wedding where everyone had already emptied the skins that were brought).. He hung around prostitutes and other sinners. He also broke the Sabbath day which is the Law of Moses.

[Paulus]

It does not. Look for a similar theme around Xmas 2005.

[stuartcr]

I'll try to remember.

[NCSteve]

I believe He lives! There is no body. The accusation of murder is a moot point in light of the Resurrection.

And there it is.

All the banter about who killed Jesus is pointless. If you don't understand that, then you don't understand anything about why he was here or what he took with him when he left.

[aspiring.hillbilly]

If Jesus was not God then the Jews would not be getting so worked upped trying to duck the blame for killing Him. They doubtless killed a lot of other people in biblical times. And if Jesus is God then the belief of Judaism that He was just another prophet is false.

[anniegetyourgun]

And many continue to this day.....