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IF NOT IN LIFE, GIVE US TERRI IN DEATH, KIN BEG HUBBY IN FUNERAL FIGHT
NY Post ^ | March 28, 2005 | KENNETH LOVETT and LUKAS I. ALPERT

Posted on 03/28/2005 6:43:57 AM PST by NYer

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To: NYer

When a man and a woman are married they become one flesh. They belong to each other. Terri's parents have no say whatsoever about this as long as Terri's husband is alive and married to her.

The parents need to give it a rest.


81 posted on 03/28/2005 10:18:13 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: NYer

Where is NOW?

At their site, type in Schiavo-no results. Schindler-no results. Florida-nothing relating to Schiavo.

Where is NOW? NOWhere.

You can be put to death by probably abusive husband with the blessing of the courts if you're an abused Catholic women, and NOW won't make a peep.

But just try to tell the parents of a 16 year-old that she's considering an abortion, and all hell will break loose.


82 posted on 03/28/2005 10:20:56 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: TNCMAXQ

>>Makes you wonder, if he's got no ulterior motives, why won't he respect the parents' wishes? Gee, what could he be trying to hide?? Argh....<<

My wife scattered her first husbands ashes in a predetermined spot that only they were to know about. To this day it is a point of contention with her and his parents. She had no ulterior motives, but was honoring his AND HER wishes. They can just but the heck out.

Terri is no longer "theirs." She gave herself to him at the alter, and her dad "gave her away."

Whether people like it or not, this is the fact of Christian marriage.


83 posted on 03/28/2005 10:21:00 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: NYer
"That's what the court has ordered," Felos said. "This was challenged prior to the removal of the feeding tube, and it will happen because that's what the court has ordered."

Hey Felos, you forgot to add the rest of your sentence . . . "and with George Greer's Napoleon complex in full bloom, what the court has ordered WILL happen, because George Greer is our new god."
84 posted on 03/28/2005 10:22:44 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: najida
You know what? I've been flamed so badly for saying Schiavo is a douchebag, I think I'm still smoking a bit.

If it turns out that I am wrong and Schiavo really was the loving husband he professes to be, I hereby promise that I will crawl on my hands and knees from Texas to wherever he is, beg his forgiveness, and let him flog me in the town square.

If it turns out he really was a douchebag all along, I don't expect the FReepers who cheered for Terri's death to acknowledge their mistake.
85 posted on 03/28/2005 10:26:22 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: RobRoy

I'd be tempted to agree with you if he didn't have another honey by whom he has fathered two kids and who he has called his fiancee. I still don't think he as guardian should have the right to carry out supposed oral right-to-die wishes with no written evidence, although he appears to under FL law, or Judge Greer's law.

They MAY be legally still married (at what point if any in FL does living together and having kids constitute common-law marriage?), but certainly aren't in substance. Because of the adultery, which began even as he was suing for money to treat Terri, they aren't one flesh any more than you and I are.


86 posted on 03/28/2005 10:26:36 AM PST by litany_of_lies
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To: Bahbah; Kolokotronis; Destro; kosta50
Notice how Felos attempts to depersonalize all of this. Someone had to make the request to the almighty "court." I would suppose it was Schiavo through his attorney, Felos

Isn't George Felos Greek Orthodox? The Pope and the Orthodox Rabbis have weighed in on this situation. Does anyone have a link to a statement from the Greek Orthodox Church, especially with regards to George Felos?

87 posted on 03/28/2005 10:29:33 AM PST by NYer ("Thou hast made us for Thyself, O Lord, and our hearts are restless until they rest in Thee.")
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To: litany_of_lies

Morally, I completely agree with you. Unfortunately, as I have said in a previous post, what is moral is not necessarily legal, and what is legal is not necessarily moral.

I will also add, that based on the poligamy practiced in the old testament, this would be completely moral.

The key here is that once a female is married, under Christian precepts, she "belongs to" her husband as much as he belongs to her. And her parents are most definitely out of the decision making loop unless they can prove criminal behavior.

I have three adult daughters. Once they are "hitched" they are no longer mine. And love him or hate him, I will not presume to be able to "tell" their husband how to treat them. I may only offer advise which he has the right to accept or reject.


88 posted on 03/28/2005 10:33:00 AM PST by RobRoy (Child support and maintenence (alimony) are what we used to call indentured slavery)
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To: NYer

I begged Jeb Bush for this very thing in FAX and phone call this morning. Surely, he can't be this heartless that he wouldn't allow the Schindler's this one small wish. Surely not! Not only that, but if Terri is cremated, there goes all the evidence needed to prove abuse. Her crumpled up arms and wrists due to neglect and lack of proper care. Her broken bones as shown on bone scan.

Surely, Jeb Bush could save Terri's body and allow her parents to give her a proper burial. Isn't that THE VERY LEAST HE COULD DO?!!!!!! For God's sake!!!


89 posted on 03/28/2005 10:33:03 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: NYer

This was the ONLY THING that made George Felos squirm a little bit during his big media event.


90 posted on 03/28/2005 10:33:43 AM PST by Saundra Duffy ("Where there's life, there's hope." Theresa Marie SCHINDLER)
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To: Xenalyte

Good lord woman!

Of course he is a douchebag!

Terri's death aside, all the other stuff he has done would make him the poster child for "Needs to have his butt kicked daily".

BTW, I truly believe there will be no from-Texas-crawling in your future.


91 posted on 03/28/2005 10:35:14 AM PST by najida (The older I get, the more I hate gravity.)
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To: doc30
Also make you wonder, if the parents have no ulterior motives, why won't they respect the husband's wishes?

Because it's entirely possible the husband is the reason their daughter is in this state.

I wouldn't respect a murderer's wishes either.
92 posted on 03/28/2005 10:37:14 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: NYer

So his client is Catholic and in charge - will Catholic church allow a berial ceremony for a cremated body? In any case common law states that the wife is always buried with the husband's family. Nothing illegal is happening here nor will the courts (nor should they) take into account the parents' religous wishes.


93 posted on 03/28/2005 10:38:06 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: NYer

So his client is Catholic and in charge - will Catholic church allow a burial ceremony for a cremated body? In any case common law states that the wife is always buried with the husband's family. Nothing illegal is happening here nor will the courts (nor should they) take into account the parents' religous wishes.


94 posted on 03/28/2005 10:38:43 AM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting johnathangaltfilms.com and jihadwatch.org)
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To: Hildy

Or it could be spite. Some people are just plain mean.


95 posted on 03/28/2005 10:41:06 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: RobRoy

Let your daughter marry an abuser, and then come back and tell us it's not your business.


96 posted on 03/28/2005 10:44:16 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: Xenalyte

With all this media attention? I don't know. I don't know Michael, I don't know the Schindlers. I'm sure there's enough blame and hard feelings to go around.


97 posted on 03/28/2005 10:44:45 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Hildy
...all I know is that both Michael and the Schindlers are three of the most stubborn people we've ever seen.

LOL! One of the truest statements I've ever read!

98 posted on 03/28/2005 10:45:15 AM PST by ContraryMary
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To: najida

I'm shocked how many people have told me I have an agenda. (I didn't get the memo.)


99 posted on 03/28/2005 10:45:43 AM PST by Xenalyte (I dare you to make less sense.)
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To: Saundra Duffy

Saundra, this is a family dispute. Do you want the government to come into your home and tell you what to do?


100 posted on 03/28/2005 10:46:04 AM PST by Hildy
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