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What it was like to be at Terri's Hospice vigil
FR_Addict ^ | March 28,2005 | FR_Addict

Posted on 03/28/2005 12:51:40 PM PST by FR_addict

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To: Salvation

I only met one who said he was a freeper, but I didn't catch his handle. My husband said Floriduh Voter came by, but I didn't see her. He also found out one of the ladies we had been talking to was a freeper, but he didn't remember her handle.

I thought about getting a Freeper name tag, but forgot about it. It was helpful to have a cell phone and call back to other freepers to help check out online things.

I forgot to mention the young gentleman who was standing on the street corner holding up a Terri sign. There were others, but I remember him because he was in the Air Force and was going to be going to Iraq soon.


61 posted on 03/28/2005 2:13:09 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: RushCrush
No. Hitler gave the parents a choice. He told the parents the state would help them with their "burden". It's kind of like how people today shove their aging parents and relatives in state homes. Same difference. People are happy to unload their parents and other "loved" ones in state homes.

So, like people then, people today are more than happy to be relieved of their "burden" courtesy of the state. If you believe a "loved" one in a state home is properly cared for, you're naive. The same is true of state run institutions for the mentally ill but NO ONE complains about that either.
62 posted on 03/28/2005 2:13:39 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: isthisnickcool

She looked beautiful.


63 posted on 03/28/2005 2:13:49 PM PST by freecopper01
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To: Scoop 1; FR_addict; Salvation; Ohioan from Florida; amdgmary; EternalVigilance; floriduh voter
Hi again from the crime scene. If any of you folks can spread the info on this, it would sure help. The first two items are time urgent and I don't have the resources at hand to get them broadcast to the right spot.

One is info on the esteemed Sen. Jim King whose efforts helped push Terri on the slippery slope. The second is an appeal from Terri's sister. It is not making much headway with the press here so far.

The last is just a parting irony. Feel free to chop and paste and broadcast.

8mm

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Posting from sunny Pinellas Park crime scene at the hospice where Terri is being slowly murdered as she fights to stay conscious and alive

I just got this plus two other items this mid-afternoon at the hospice. I am keying this in from a hand written note by the originator:

I, Donna Kuntz, had a conversation with Senator Jim King after a committee meeting last week in Tallahassee. I said, "Surely your law you passed in 1999 was meant for cancer, stroke, etc., people who wish to turn down feeding tubes since they are terminal. Surely you need some parameters around that law. You could not have meant for your law to be used to kill incapacitated people? King answered, "Yes, I did! That's exactly what I meant!"

signed...Donna K. Kuntz

I am simply passing this on to whomever can pick up the ball. We have Gov. Bush's phone number which is 1-850-488-4441 but we do not have a phone number for Sen. King. Donna Kuntz is standing by her word and would testify that it is what was said and was witnessed by others. She encourages any and many to call this senator and put the question directly to him as she did.

Item 2.

Suzanne Schindler asks what President Bush would do if Jenna or Barbara were in a similar state as Terri. Suzanne's request is posted on one of the protest signs but so far we know of nobody picking it up and nobody bringing it to the attention of the President. Can anyone help us get this out?

Item 3.

As I was walking away a few minutes ago, a new vehicle has arrived on the scene. This is an unmarked white van with wheelchair lift to accommodate any of the handicapped they may arrest today. Gotta be politically correct, dontacaknow.

8mm

64 posted on 03/28/2005 2:16:46 PM PST by 8mmMauser ( www.ChristtheKingMaine.com Vade satana!)
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To: nmh

Not sure if your post was really directed at my comment? But i was referring to the police, not the parents. Something about complicity?


65 posted on 03/28/2005 2:18:08 PM PST by RushCrush (The FReeper formerly known as Alias."If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen" RWR)
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To: 8mmMauser
Suzanne Schindler asks what President Bush would do if Jenna or Barbara were in a similar state as Terri.

Get a better lawyer and muzzle Randall Terry and Larry Klayman, for starters.

66 posted on 03/28/2005 2:18:22 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Pro-Terri - NOT anti-Bush.)
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To: nmh

Not sure if your post was really directed at my comment? But i was referring to the police, not the parents. Something about complicity?


67 posted on 03/28/2005 2:18:33 PM PST by RushCrush (The FReeper formerly known as Alias."If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen" RWR)
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To: nmh

Not sure if your post was really directed at my comment? But i was referring to the police, not the parents. Something about complicity?


68 posted on 03/28/2005 2:18:38 PM PST by RushCrush (The FReeper formerly known as Alias."If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen" RWR)
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To: sitetest

Thanks that's sweet. I was glad my husband went down with me. It made it easier.

I also used one of the freepers that couldn't go, to be my on-line eyes and ears while I was at the hospice.

We are all trying to get something done about this. The bar has been lowered so that a disabled person can be put to death on hearsay evidence from a husband-in-name-only.

The lady from "NotDeadYet" said that in Missouri they changed it from removing a feeding tube to spoon feeding. I haven't checked this out for myself, but after this, nothing surprises me anymore.


69 posted on 03/28/2005 2:19:34 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
Thanks for posting that. I've been wondering all along about the attitudes of the police. That's a real shame to hear that they were so defensive about their jobs.

Also very touching to hear about the man who was there with the lady with alzheimers, who's family had given up on her. I think that's what this case is all about... that "death with dignity" isn't about giving up on people because they're in a weak and helpless state. Real dignity in dying is found in the love and patience of those who take on the task of caring for the helpless.

70 posted on 03/28/2005 2:21:03 PM PST by Sally II
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To: bert

"If your husband really believed, he wouldn't have been concerned about a little sunburn."

It wasn't a little sunburn. He was waking up at night with the burns. Besides we went back later. We just had to be a little more careful. He is alot more fair than most people.

We were also staying late and also going back to the hotel gave me a chance to go online and find out what was going on.

Not everyone that "really believes" has to be down there. Many have been non-stop writing emails, phoning, faxing, letters to the Editor, etc. Not everyone has to go to jail. I think we were sent down there to help the guy who came alone just to give Terri water. Many were fasting and praying down there. We elected to try and be actively involved during our short time. We just have to do our part.

I've been studying it for a year and a half, but I wish I had known all I know now about this case, a year ago.

And also to help some of the others.


71 posted on 03/28/2005 2:27:18 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet

No interest in Klayman. He just came and went.

Randall Terry is not central to any of the legal stuff, just here to help far as we can tell, and is sincerely doing what he can to help them. He will not appeal anyway to those who do not like him but is doing fine with a lot of people. It is no negative to saving Terri's life. The only trick we can see is to find someone with the guts to stare down this little tin pot judge. We are waiting for the cavalry.

*crickets***

They have a fine lawyer, but are facing a solid wall of judicial resistance and no amount of evidence will warm their chill hearts.


72 posted on 03/28/2005 2:28:04 PM PST by 8mmMauser ( www.ChristtheKingMaine.com Vade satana!)
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To: FR_addict

btt


73 posted on 03/28/2005 2:28:35 PM PST by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion has already been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pegita

I was glad to hear they were moving out of the area. I don't know anything about the little boy, nor any of the other children, previously arrested.


74 posted on 03/28/2005 2:29:45 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: JohnnyGunns

Mere lip service is cheap, action is a rare commodity. (11 hour drive?)

My husband did all the driving. I can't take credit for that.


75 posted on 03/28/2005 2:32:33 PM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict; bert

Yeah, the sunburn is raging for us northeners. My whole face skin peeled off and the new skin burned. Used up about a jar of sunblock, lol.

The sun sears through the haze and even rain and we sizzle before we know anything hit us. It is dangerous.

8mm


76 posted on 03/28/2005 2:32:43 PM PST by 8mmMauser ( www.ChristtheKingMaine.com Vade satana!)
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To: FR_addict

Dear FR_Addict,

"The lady from 'NotDeadYet' said that in Missouri they changed it from removing a feeding tube to spoon feeding."

Very scary.

We aren't too far from the Netherlands. Nor from the nether world.


sitetest


77 posted on 03/28/2005 2:36:06 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: sitetest

sitetest, you speak the truth. Very scary, the repurcussions of this event.


78 posted on 03/28/2005 2:37:59 PM PST by Catholic Tider
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To: 8mmMauser

Dear 8mmMauser,

Kudos to you, too.

Thank you.


sitetest


80 posted on 03/28/2005 2:38:39 PM PST by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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