A Familiar Execution (Terri Sciavo)

Seattle Catholic ^ | March 27, 2005 | Randy LaBauve

[NYer]

EDITOR'S NOTE: While I'm certainly aware of the dangers of exaggeration, and wary of some of the implications or false conclusions that could be drawn from making parallels between the suffering of Terri Schiavo and the Passion of Our Lord, I also believe there to be a significance in the timing and details of her execution. While her personal sanctity may not be comparable to the blessed stigmatists chosen to partake in and demonstrate the sufferings of Our Lord, Terri Schiavo has been selected for a very public execution at the hands of modern Pilates in judicial robes and executive offices, who have washed their hands of her. Ironically, while the enemies of Christ have worked feverishly to eliminate any and all depictions of Our Lord's Passion, they've managed to produce an allegorical 'Passion' of sorts to an enormous audience during the holiest week of the year. As such, I consider the following thoughts worthy of reflection. —PWM

[silverleaf]

great article.

[Earl_of_Nottingham]

The battle lines are clearly drawn between the culture of death and the culture of life, before nazi type "elimination" of any the elites deem inferior is the "law of the land", swords must be drawn and the enemy engaged on all fronts.

[Deo volente]

Terri is truly a victim soul.

God have mercy on the United States of America!

[confederate66]

I disagree, kook. If christians are to believe that heaven awaits you, then death is victory. That's what I've been taught growing up. Death part of this world. Jesus conquered death for all of us. So why do christians mourn for her if you truely believe she will be with her lord when she passes. THis question baffles me knowing how many christians are prostesting the inevitable. We will all die, slowly or suddenly. Man has made it possible to prolong death un-naturally. 15 years incased in a body to wither away slowly isn't my idea of life. If you believe heaven awaits you, why do you fear death?

[confederate66]

And one more thing. I've been on this forum a little while now and can say I'm amazed at the term "nazi" being thrown around like the liberals did to Bush during the election and after. Remember Godwins Law.................it's working around here lately.

[confederate66]

And one more thing. I've been on this forum a little while now and can say I'm amazed at the term "nazi" being thrown around like the liberals did to Bush during the election and after. Remember Godwins Law.................it's working around here lately.

[NYer]

This is Divine Mercy week, which will culminate on Sunday. For thousands of years, Eastern Christians have recognized that the week following the death of our Lord was a time when God poured out His forgiveness on the repentant. If we look at the earliest liturgical document in existence credited to the Apostles (The Apostolic Constitutions), Book 5, Chapter 19, we find the apostle St. Thomas strongly urging "after eight days [following the Feast of Easter] let there another feast observed with honor, the eighth day itself on which He [Jesus] gave me Thomas, who was hard of belief, full assurance, by showing me the print of the nails, and the wound made in His side by the spear."

That message was brought to the West by St. Faustina. Please pray the Divine Mercy Novena, for Terri and this country. Plan to celebrate Divine Mercy Sunday with your family.

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[Earl_of_Nottingham]

I disagree, kook.

Normally I would be happy to respond to your misunderstandings, however, in this case, since you are disposed to immediate ad hominem, I will be happy to let you proceed in ignorance.

[mlc9852]

I personally believe Terri will be in a much better place after death. Her death in and of itself doesn't bother me. It's the manner of death and the far-reaching implications it carries. As sad as I am for Terri and her family, I am even more sad that our government now condones "getting rid of" those individuals who are no longer considered useful or desirable. If that doesn't scare people, then I don't know what will. At first I just assumed they would find a way to put the feeding tube back in and I didn't think much about it. Now I clearly see no one will do anything to stop this. I know, the law, blah blah blah. A woman is slowly being starved to death for no other reason than her husband and one, lowly probate judge have decided she is no longer allowed to live.

[confederate66]

...""getting rid of" those individuals who are no longer considered useful or desirable..."

How do you figure? The government should never have gotten involved in this matter to begin with. My question to every reader on this forum and I respect a great many on here for teaching me many things about politics and more, but which one of you would trade places with her and lie in bed for 15 years incased in a body which wil wither away and never be able to enjoy life like God intended. This bothers me to no end to see Christians carrying on like her death is going to be the end of her, that she will no longer exist. Where is your faith in the promise of an everlasting eternal life without pain, sorry, sickness or death? I just don't get it anymore. What I see is lack of faith spread all over the national news. I'm done now and will not go on about this anymore.

[NYer]

I am even more sad that our government now condones "getting rid of" those individuals who are no longer considered useful or desirable.

That is precisely the issue here. On the news this evening, they showed a man who has been on a feeding tube for thirty years! The difference is that his mental faculties are what society would recognize as being intact vs Terri whom the MSM has defined as being in a vegetative state. Vegetables don't feel pain. Why are they administering drugs to 'ease her pain'?

May God have mercy on the soul of this nation!

[Aliska]

Jesus' suffering was over about a 24-hour period and was atrocious beyond what we can imagine. He knew what he was being called to endure and laid his life down willingly.

Just because Christians believe in heaven doesn't mean that we have to murder them to get them there faster. He told one follower to "Keep the commandments".

Finally, Terri, may or may or not have said what she wanted. Even if she did, she was put through the same torture three different times and probably had no idea what kind of death men would choose for her. I doubt if she would have freely chosen to die by starvation unless she clearly understood beforehand she was called to be a martyr by that means. Victim souls are usually given a choice or understanding of why. Terri was never afforded any of that. It was appointed for her, but by man or God?

The best I can say is that for some inscrutable reason God has allowed this. I doubt he would have approved it.

[NYer]

Ping!

[mlc9852]

I totally agree with you.

[Dr. Frank fan]

which one of you would trade places with her and lie in bed for 15 years incased in a body which wil wither away and never be able to enjoy life like God intended

Is your thought process really this confused? The question is not whether one would "trade places with" her but whether one would prefer death to her status. Of course no one would trade places with her.

But heck, I wouldn't trade places with someone who had the flu, a cold, or a hangnail. This is not an argument for killing that person.

[macamadamia]

"15 years incased in a body to wither away slowly isn't my idea of life. If you believe heaven awaits you, why do you fear death?"


You're right. Kill all the severely disabled! Who wants to live like that?! Who wants to see them? Who wants to clean them? Besides, they're going to heaven, so let's speed things up and help them get there.

[workerbee]

THis question baffles me knowing how many christians are prostesting the inevitable. We will all die, slowly or suddenly. Man has made it possible to prolong death un-naturally. 15 years incased in a body to wither away slowly isn't my idea of life. If you believe heaven awaits you, why do you fear death?

You're so right. In fact, why don't we start implementing some sort of "end of life" program (government financed and run, of course) where, say, on your 30th birthday you are lined up against a wall and shot? We're all just going to die anyway, and go on to a better place, so what's the diff?

Sound ridiculous? Welcome to your worldview.

[Jeremiahs Call]

Hey ignoramus - Christians fight for life. How many times did Jesus heal the sick? Many times! He didn't tell the diseased to go ahead and die so they could go to a better place. Yes we all die, but we fight the good fight as long as we're capable.

[isthisnickcool]

I disagree, kook. If christians are to believe that heaven awaits you, then death is victory. That's what I've been taught growing up. Death part of this world. Jesus conquered death for all of us. So why do christians mourn for her if you truely believe she will be with her lord when she passes. THis question baffles me knowing how many christians are prostesting the inevitable. We will all die, slowly or suddenly. Man has made it possible to prolong death un-naturally. 15 years incased in a body to wither away slowly isn't my idea of life. If you believe heaven awaits you, why do you fear death?

You lost me at "kook".

By the way, your "death is victory" concept is a bit more stylish if you are looking for the 72 virgins.

I'm not sure who taught you "growing up" but it appears from your post they have not finished teaching you yet. Maybe when they have and you have indeed decome a thinking adult you might come back and make some sense. In the meantime you might consider your excellent qualifications to be a judge in Florida.

I don't recall Christ telling us to murder others so they can get to heaven faster. Anyone else here heard of that one? Hello? Anyone?

Oh, if your idea makes so much sense why have you not offed yourself or hired someone else to?