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Lessons . . . and lapses (Schiavo been pregnant wanted to abort husband would have no legal say)
The Washington Times ^ | March 30, 2005 | Cal Thomas

Posted on 03/29/2005 10:27:33 PM PST by Former Military Chick

The Terri Schiavo case has been a perfect media storm and an object lesson.

For the media, it served as a metaphor for much of what divides us: pro-life versus pro-choice; religious versus secular; wife versus husband versus parents/in-laws; church versus state.

Many religious leaders (and certain members of Congress) at first distinguished themselves by standing on principle and appealing to the state to preserve Terri Schiavo's life. But a few called for defying authority, suggesting Florida officials disobey court orders, "rescue" Terri from her hospice bed and reinsert her feeding tube.

The Miami Herald reported Saturday that agents of the Florida Department of Law Enforcement told police in Pinellas Park they were planning such an operation. The newspaper said agents backed down rather than confront local police outside the hospice. Certain people seem to be arguing that only those laws and judicial rulings with which they agree are to be obeyed. That invites anarchy.

Some of those calling for the law to be disobeyed were ordained clergy, which is especially troubling.

What do these ordained men mean by encouraging people to break the law? Have they not read, or taken seriously, Romans 13, the chapter in which Paul, the Apostle, says, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

The footnote in the New International Version reminds the reader the "governing authorities" at the time these verses were written were probably pagans and Paul said to submit to them anyway. That's difficult to get around, especially for those who take the Bible seriously.

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KEYWORDS: calthomas; clintonappointed; clintonjudges; neverforget; saveamerica; schiavo; stophillary
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1 posted on 03/29/2005 10:27:41 PM PST by Former Military Chick
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To: Former Military Chick
What do these ordained men mean by encouraging people to break the law? Have they not read, or taken seriously, Romans 13, the chapter in which Paul, the Apostle, says, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

2 posted on 03/29/2005 10:32:04 PM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Cal is one of my favorites!

Good Post. :^)

3 posted on 03/29/2005 10:32:43 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: Former Military Chick

check out Luke 12:51-56...


4 posted on 03/29/2005 10:39:42 PM PST by marredbydust
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To: Former Military Chick

NEVER FORGET

Clinton-Appointed Judges created this monster.

And a President Hillary Clinton will surely clone
the creation.

**Clinton Term 3 = The TERRORS Begin**


5 posted on 03/29/2005 10:40:15 PM PST by reformjoy (Hillary Haters? Nah, just "Freedom Lovers")
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To: Carry_Okie

In the course of Human events one comes across some radical ideas.


6 posted on 03/29/2005 10:43:48 PM PST by NicknamedBob (They did NOT win. --They chose Death, and they will have it. -- We choose Life, and we will have it.)
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To: Carry_Okie
But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

I agree with such a "declaration". God's law is higher than man's law.

7 posted on 03/29/2005 10:45:41 PM PST by GLDNGUN
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To: Former Military Chick
The Judges (including Judge GREER) BROKE the law in this case and REFUSED to follow the directives of Congress. Judge GREER REFUSED to obey a Congressional Subpoena and thus on that basis alone (besides The Constitutional Rights of Terri Schindler that were violated), Governor Bush is not required to obey GREER's order.

Even if Jeb Bush would be BREAKING the law to RESCUE Terri, it should be done. The STARVATION and DEHYDRATION of an innocent woman cannot be allowed to stand. It will have far GREATER repercussions for the U.S. than Governor Bush in this one instance, breaking a law to save an innocent human life from a GRIZZLY and undeserved death.

I would be MOST disturbed if the ministers suggested otherwise.

8 posted on 03/29/2005 10:47:25 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: Former Military Chick

Cal Thomas bump!


9 posted on 03/29/2005 10:50:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Former Military Chick

The crime of saving an innocent woman by restoring her feeding tube is especially troubling. Right up there with jaywalking in a desert.

/sarcasm


10 posted on 03/29/2005 10:53:10 PM PST by Tax Government (Support the Senate's "Nuclear Option" -- a rules change to dislodge DEATHocrats. Contribute to FR.)
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To: Tax Government
The crime of saving an innocent woman by restoring her feeding tube is especially troubling. Right up there with jaywalking in a desert.

There are many others who aren't getting the same attention because their families' are in agreement. Want don't you storm those hospitals and "save" them as well.

12 posted on 03/29/2005 10:56:48 PM PST by rmmcdaniell
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To: atwelve

Where's the logic in that, Spock?


13 posted on 03/29/2005 11:02:48 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: atwelve

That was obvious DAYS ago. I am making the point that he could have and should have rescued her.


14 posted on 03/29/2005 11:03:29 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: smoothsailing

"Logic is a little tweeting bird, chirping in a meadow.", intones Spock, "Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad. Are you sure your circuits are registering correctly? Your ears are green!"


15 posted on 03/29/2005 11:04:57 PM PST by cabojoe
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To: cabojoe

:^)


16 posted on 03/29/2005 11:07:54 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: Carry_Okie

First it should be noted that while invoking "God-talk", the Declaration was essentially a synthesis of enlightenment thinking and writing. Paul's Epistle to the the Romans was sent to a christian minority living in the heart of an utterly barbaric and pagan empire. And you suggest that we can easily put this divine instruction aside in favor of a political document used to justify separation from the British Empire? Horsefeathers!


17 posted on 03/29/2005 11:08:26 PM PST by Don'tMessWithTexas
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To: Don'tMessWithTexas
Bump!

To qoute President Ronald Reagan: If you can't get them to see the light,make them feel the heat.

19 posted on 03/29/2005 11:29:39 PM PST by smoothsailing (Qui Nhon)
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To: Former Military Chick
What do these ordained men mean by encouraging people to break the law? Have they not read, or taken seriously, Romans 13, the chapter in which Paul, the Apostle, says, "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves."

Based on this logic, wouldn't a German Christian been required to follow Nazi law and not stand in the way of Jews being sent to the gas chambers?

I usually agree with Cal, but a government authorizing the murder of its own citizens is not one "established by God." Nor does God or the Bible support a government breaking His laws.

20 posted on 03/29/2005 11:31:24 PM PST by Ol' Sparky
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