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Fallacies About the Schiavo Case
The New American ^ | April 18, 2005 issue | Thomas R. Eddlem

Posted on 03/31/2005 3:15:15 PM PST by w6ai5q37b

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To: w6ai5q37b
This whole thing was one bog lie more here
21 posted on 03/31/2005 3:30:34 PM PST by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: OldFriend
Is it the right of the Courts or a family member to undo that decision and do what THEY want.

Never. But, it may be right to disregard the patient's wishes when what they ask for is unethical. I would not hasten my wife's death before what God chooses, even if my wife asks it. The precednece is GOD, then patient, then others.

22 posted on 03/31/2005 3:31:01 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: incindiary
I heard that Terri never had an MRI. But someone arguing for the other side said that was a lie, and that she indeed did have an MRI.

A CAT scan was done, but due to having metallic probes implanted (easily removed), a MRI or the more definitive PET scans were not done.

23 posted on 03/31/2005 3:31:07 PM PST by dread78645 (Sarcasm tags are for wusses.)
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To: OldFriend

What is your evidence that Terri wanted to die? Hubby's say so, with no documentation?


24 posted on 03/31/2005 3:31:40 PM PST by Abcdefg
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To: Walkure

All this criticism of Jeb Bush is crap. No hospital would expose itself to more lawsuits without legal clearance even if Terri were brought to them.

Enough of this stupidity. Taking her into custody wouldn't have saved her.


25 posted on 03/31/2005 3:31:57 PM PST by romanesq
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To: Walkure

Except of course half way through that he would have been kicked out of office, his actions reversed, and Terri would still die. His actions kept her alive for another two years and gave the Schindlers more opportunities, which were unfortunately wasted by their lawyer bringing effectively the exact same appeals over and over to the same judges who'd already rejected them.


26 posted on 03/31/2005 3:32:27 PM PST by discostu (quis custodiet ipsos custodes)
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To: John Valentine
I pains me to see the hateful, over-the-top rantings against Jeb Bush.

I haven't walked in his shoes. I only know he did more to help Terry Schindler than any of the mouths that are now criticizing him. She would have been dead years ago if not for Jeb Bush.

Happy to see your post, Jeb Bush has tried to help Terry Schindler for many years.(he just did not ask for the media spotlight)

27 posted on 03/31/2005 3:32:53 PM PST by Irish Eyes
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To: Abcdefg

"What is your evidence that Terri wanted to die? Hubby's say so, with no documentation?"

3 people said 8 years after the "incident" that Terri wanted to die. All of them are named Schiavo. Where have you been?


28 posted on 03/31/2005 3:33:12 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Walkure

I don't see any difference.


29 posted on 03/31/2005 3:33:16 PM PST by Conservativegreatgrandma
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To: OldFriend

So that's an excuse also for no PET test.
There was no interests in testing for Terri. It was blocked by the loving "husband" who saw to her execution.


30 posted on 03/31/2005 3:33:19 PM PST by romanesq
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

" The Republican legislators and executives may not have done enough to save her, but it was our entire judicial system that murdered her."

Perhaps some of the blame needs to be put upon the people that elected the ones who appointed these judges in the first place...however, I do agree that the judicial system is one big mess, I still say it's a power thing!


32 posted on 03/31/2005 3:34:53 PM PST by pistolpackinannie
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To: TAdams8591

Blaiming the press for the death of Terri is really taking the easy way out. The great bulk of Americans did not need the press to convince them that Terris death was OK, rather most Americans have already bought into a wicked culture of death. Most Americans see Terri not as a person, but as little more than a flesh and blood paperweight, to be disposed of because she was an inconvenience. Most Americans do not read the New York Times, or any newspaper, so lets not blame the MSM for OUR sins as a people. BTW, as a Roman Catholic, I see Terri Schiavo as a good candidate for Beatification, if not outright Canonization. Firstly, it was a miracle that she lasted as long as she did without her tube. Secondly, though she did not die for ALL sins as Jesus did, she did die to expose to us Americans our one great sin, the sin of wickedness, the sin of cruelty.


33 posted on 03/31/2005 3:35:04 PM PST by Walkure
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To: Ronaldus Magnus

Does anybody else see the hypocrisy in this forum? These replies to the hardly cross conservative beliefs. Why should the government have any role in the life of Terry Shiavo? It's a family matter, and getting Jeb Bush involved, the president, or Congress is absurd...There is nothing illegal occurring so there is absolutely no need for the politicians to stick their noses in family business.


34 posted on 03/31/2005 3:35:35 PM PST by SnoopSteele (Hypocrisy)
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To: Walkure
Very much Agreed and well stated. Jeb was very well aware of the problem in October 2003. He should have had the DCF investigate and then taken her into protective custody.

Since he failed her then, once it became a crises, he should have led law enforcment to the hopice and taken her out of there. Instead he backed off and revealed his cowardice.

35 posted on 03/31/2005 3:35:43 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Evil succeeds when good men don't do enough!!!!!!)
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To: tallhappy
Jeb Bush tried. He failed and backed down when push came to shove.

The Libs are all ready gearing up to play that angle and are being primed nicely by the Miami Times.
36 posted on 03/31/2005 3:36:57 PM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: Walkure

I was visiting my grandmother last night with my mom. My mom asked me what I thought. I was practically screaming because she said more than once that the woman was brain dead.

"Mom, the woman is not brain dead. The media is lying to you."

New York City, don't ya know.


37 posted on 03/31/2005 3:38:03 PM PST by romanesq
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To: w6ai5q37b
I new this day was coming but it really hurts. Never met Terri but I hope to some day and I hope she knows a lot of us did what we could. Most of us are not rich or famous but we do care and have a deep faith in the Lord and know that one day we will have to answer for our wrong doings. I wonder if her good for nothing husband (I use husband gritting my teeth) ever for one second thought about the after life. Probubly not but if he thinks for one second he has everyone fooled there is someone greater that all of us, and when this snake meets him I hope he has to look Terri in all her happiness for at that moment he will begin his after life in his new diggs. Boy its Hot in here!
38 posted on 03/31/2005 3:38:04 PM PST by Duke Wayne
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To: zoomie2

Constitutional-shmonstitutional, when observing the letter of separation of powers allows someone to be murdered, a REAL person, a CARING person will do ANYTHING to stop the murder. As I said, he could find some pretext, however threadbare, to rescue this woman. At least Pilate had the excuse of being an igorant pagan; Jeb does not even have that excuse.


39 posted on 03/31/2005 3:38:51 PM PST by Walkure
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To: OldFriend

Last time I checked it was Terri that was being starved to death, not you.

If you want to starve yourself to death, more power to you.

What you are saying is you knew full well the agony Terri would experience being starved to death and was still willing to inflict that fate on her.


40 posted on 03/31/2005 3:39:04 PM PST by sport
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