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Mark Steyn: Public execution
The Spectator ^ | April 2, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/01/2005 10:51:42 PM PST by kenvelshi

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To: kenvelshi
It’s foolish to think you can raise entire populations — not to mention generations of doctors — to make self-interested judgments about who lives and who doesn’t and expect them to remain confined to three trimesters.

Can't say it enough.

41 posted on 04/02/2005 4:04:35 AM PST by Jim Noble (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God)
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To: Torie
Just why do you think our nation 30 years hence will want to tax themselves to death to pay for the care and feeding and prosperity of a bunch of old white Anglo geezers?

But that's a long time away, and we are not to worry about anything beyond the next election.

So saith the democrats.

42 posted on 04/02/2005 4:15:25 AM PST by sphinx
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To: kenvelshi

bump


43 posted on 04/02/2005 5:10:49 AM PST by RippleFire ("It's a joke, son!")
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To: Fenris6
this woman is being put to death without any serious medical evaluation more recent than 12 years ago.

Now that's just plain criminal. Medicine has advanced in 12 years

44 posted on 04/02/2005 5:16:40 AM PST by dennisw ("What is Man that thou art mindful of him")
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To: kenvelshi
That it is, uniquely, a crime to serve Mrs Schiavo a beverage underlines the court’s intent — not to cease the artificial prolongation of life but actively to cause her death.

Gives a lift to the hair on the back of my neck...

45 posted on 04/02/2005 5:31:13 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Fenris6

After a fresh night's sleep just reread my response, post #17 to you. Reads awfully huffy, irritated and defensive. Wasn't my intent. Sorry, didn't mean to get all haughty on you.


46 posted on 04/02/2005 5:36:25 AM PST by AHerald
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To: kenvelshi
Mr Felos writes, ‘The Jewish people, long ago in their collective consciousness, agreed to play the role of the lamb whose slaughter was necessary to shock humanity into a new moral consciousness.

WHAT??? They agreed...to be... what?? My God, I'm actually speechless at this bizarre, twisted ... ??

47 posted on 04/02/2005 8:31:39 AM PST by wizardoz
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To: kenvelshi; nopardons
On page 240 Mr Felos writes, ‘The Jewish people, long ago in their collective consciousness, agreed to play the role of the lamb whose slaughter was necessary to shock humanity into a new moral consciousness. Their sacrifice saved humanity at the brink of extinction and propelled us into a new age.... If our minds can conceive of an uplifting Holocaust, can it be so difficult to look another way at the slights and injuries and abuses we perceive were inflicted upon us?’

Someone remind me again, why Nazi references are out of bounds in this case?

48 posted on 04/02/2005 8:36:54 AM PST by thoughtomator (Fight terror - strangle a caribou!)
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To: Fledermaus

Everyone - and I mean everyone - who I have spoken to now agrees with me that Terri ought to have had a new finding of fact. Many of them were not remotely aware of all the contortions and distortions by the press and the judge. Many of them did not agree with me before I discussed it with them, and many were vehement in disagreement to begin with, but found they were quite unaware of what had really happened.
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49 posted on 04/02/2005 8:39:15 AM PST by AFPhys ((.Praying for President Bush, our troops, their families, and all my American neighbors..))
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To: kenvelshi
Just to underline the Clinton comparison, the Sunday Times’s Andrew Sullivan has dusted off his impeachment act and damned those of us opposed to Mrs Schiavo’s judicial murder as dogmatic extremist fundamentalist religious-right theocrats.

Sullivan has his death cult utilitarian human ethics supporters right here at FR.

There are at least two fewer Sullivan supporters here today than yesterday. The departees' feelings were hurt because "dogmatic extremist fundamentalist religious-right theocrat" social conservatives refused to pay homage to the "just following orders" (OKA "rule of law") defense in the case of the forced starvation and dehydration of a helpless innocent woman.

50 posted on 04/02/2005 8:48:33 AM PST by JCEccles (If Jimmy Carter were a country, he'd be Canada.)
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To: wardaddy
Me thinks he may hear voices if ya know what i mean.

Actually, he DOES hear voices. Read his description (another excerpt from the book Steyn mentioned, sorry I don't have the link) of Mrs. Browning--he "heard" her voice in his head, screaming, pleading, begging, to be killed.

51 posted on 04/02/2005 9:32:30 AM PST by exDemMom (Death is beautiful, to those who hate their own lives.)
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To: kenvelshi

BTTT


52 posted on 04/02/2005 9:44:37 AM PST by Rastus
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To: cyborg

well, that's probably the only thing he and I have in common...lol

only it was I who was bad actually, not the fungi


53 posted on 04/02/2005 10:25:19 AM PST by wardaddy ("Finally!, A Man Worth Killing!")
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To: wardaddy

LOL!!


54 posted on 04/02/2005 10:28:04 AM PST by cyborg (Feel the FReeper Love)
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To: Eagles6

He's ahead of VDH. Just as incisive -- and a hell of a lot funnier.


55 posted on 04/02/2005 12:45:32 PM PST by expatpat
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To: AFPhys

They didn't want to know because that would have required them to actually think and deny them the opporunity to mouth off platitudes and emotional vindictives.

Once her death is fait accompli the chemical imbalance in their feeble brains subside and some rational thought again gets through. But always too late.

It's pretty much the same on any issue be it Social Security, tax rates, education spending, etc.


56 posted on 04/02/2005 2:16:44 PM PST by Fledermaus (I have a big truck)
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To: JCEccles
Sullivan has his death cult utilitarian human ethics supporters right here at FR.

At the risk of sounding like I'm taking a cheap at Sullivan, for someone who complained about the "fetishization" of life, I doubt Sullivan's going off his anti-retrovirals anytime soon.

57 posted on 04/02/2005 2:21:31 PM PST by garbanzo (Free people will set the course of history)
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To: JCEccles
At the risk of tooting my own horn, I commented on Sullivan. There are errors in the post, though. It took longer than I wanted.
58 posted on 04/02/2005 2:29:37 PM PST by AmishDude (Join the AmishDude fan club: "You're a luminary!" -- Howlin; "You are a wise man." -- Torie)
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To: kenvelshi; All
In Honor of Terri Schiavo

Please let it load -- it's 11 mb.

Have headphones or sound on.

special thanks to lafroste for generous technical and web assistance.

59 posted on 04/02/2005 2:53:34 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (God rest Terri Schiavo. God save the rest of us.)
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To: AHerald
After a fresh night's sleep just reread my response, post #17 to you. Reads awfully huffy, irritated and defensive. Wasn't my intent. Sorry, didn't mean to get all haughty on you.

Quite alright. Besides, you made my point for me ;)

60 posted on 04/02/2005 7:29:13 PM PST by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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