Posted on 04/02/2005 7:21:53 AM PST by DannyTN
I first became familiar with this prophecy back around 1972. It's proved accurate so far, and other end time prophecies continue to fall in place as well.
I understand there is some controvery about the last Pope, Peter the Great, not being numbered. The general understanding is that there are two popes remaining, Gloria Olivae and Peter the Great. Some have speculated that the Gloria Olivae, the next pope is the same as Peter the Great. Some have speculated that because Peter the Great is not numbered, that there may be an undetermined number of popes between Gloria Olivae and Peter the Great.
What's with all the big gaps in explanations for whether the mottos fit or not? Isn't it perfectly possible, that even if the prophecy is true, the cycle hasn't even started yet?
IIRC The Glory of the Olive reigns briefly.
One might suspect that the end times are quite near...
It seems that the next pope, THEY say, would be there for only a short time. I thought I remembered someone saying the the last vision from the Lady was that this would be the last pope and when the Pope read this, it brought him to tears. Anyone else hear this?
So how are they going to interpret this propechy when like 5 more popes come and go??
Not sure who "they" are in your query, but I guess "they" will cross that bridge when they come to it.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)
This sounds eerily similar to what is reported to be Lucy's final secret.
"So how are they going to interpret this propechy when like 5 more popes come and go??"
They'll invent some other meaning to some other "prophecy" and continue to scream "The Sky is falling" in hopes that people continue to come to church and fill the coffers.
Not much difference between this and astrology.
LOL!
How are you going to feel if it proves true?
I have been thinking about this for days..
I didn't realize that they counted antipopes. Maybe they shouldn't be numbered, and if so, we may have a few more to go yet before the return of St. Peter.
Interesting note about John Paul II's motto: Laborer Under the Sun...
During WWII, after the Nazi's took control of Poland, Karol Wojtyla had to get a job to keep himself and his father alived. Here's some of the story:
In the fall of 1940, as the Nazis began to interpret their work rules ever more strigently, Karol Wojtyla began almost four years as a manual laborer for the Solvay chemicals company. For a year, he walked every day from the apartment in Debniki to and from the Solvay quarry at Zakrzowek--a thirty-minute hike, but that was no small matter in the sub-zero winter weather when he and his friend and fellow quarryman, Juliusz Kydrynski, had to make the trek with petroleum jelly smeared all over their faces to keep their skin from freezing.The Zakrzowek quarry, a pit hundreds of feet deep, mined limestone, essential for the production of soda in the Solvay chemical plant located in another Krakow suburb, Borek Falecki. Throughout the harsh winter of 1940-1941, in which temperatures dipped to -22 Fahrenheit (-30 Celsius), Lolek [the pope's nick name!] shoveled limestone into miniature railway cars at the bottom of the pit, occasionally working as a brakeman on the trains. In the spring he received a kind of promotion, as an assitant to Franciszek Labus, a veteran dynamiter. Labus took a liking to the young man whose previous experience hadn't prepared him for the rigors of the quarry and offered Lolek some career advice. "Karol, you should be a priest," he told the novice blaster. "You have a good voice and will sing well; then you'll be all set."
Source: Witness to Hope: the biography of Pope John Paul II
by George Weigel (ISBN=0-06-018789-X)
So John Paul II was a LITERAL "laborer under the sun" doing the most horrendous and difficult labor of all: working in an open-pit limestone quarry, using hand tools! This is also the place where the idea of becoming a priest first came to him, in the form of his co-worker's friendly advice!
So there's a bit more to this prophecy than meets the eye!
"I guess "they" will cross that bridge when they come to it."
That would be Ted Kennedy.
That the prophecies of St. Malachy were baloney.
Then find another thread.
Self-ping (cause I find this stuff interesting)
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