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The Prophecies of St. Malachy
Matt Drudge ^

Posted on 10/14/2001 11:20:44 AM PDT by Asmodeus

PROPHECIES COME TO SCREEN

UNITED STATES distributors have pulled out of talks about a major new movie about an Irish saint who predicted that the world would end soon after the reign of Pope John Paul II.

The move comes against the background of the attacks on America and the bombing of Afghanistan.

End of Times will star top Hollywood actor Martin Sheen as a renegade monk who tries to head off disaster by blocking the election of a world leader.

The producer of the huge project says until recently the prophecies of St Malachy seemed 'far fetched'.

But Ted McDonnell of Orient West Pictures told us: "Now it has taken on a new sense of urgency."

Sheen, who starred in legendary Vietnam movie Apocolypse Now, plays a monk who tries to head off the appointment of the leader.

He believes that man would start the global war known in the Bible as Armageddon.

Said McDonnell: "Unfortunately the subject matter which seemed quite esoteric and far-fetched some months ago has scared off American distributors.

"Luckily though, the financial backing is European."

End Of Times was written by Limerick-born writer Justin Cleary.

It's based on the prophecies of St Malachy who laid down his warnings on a yellow parchment scroll in 1140.

Said McDonnell: "The film will juxtapose between the contemporary modern day and the dark ages in Ireland.

"We'll be filming in a monastic site in Co Kerry as well as modern-day Rome and various capitals throughout the world.

"A desperate Father Nicholas, a Dominican Friar, played by Sheen, tries to warn world leaders of the doom they are about to wreak upon the whole world."

St Malachy famously predicted the name of every pope since the 12th Century reign of Innocent II.

He was born in Co Armagh in the year 1094 into a wealthy chieftain clan.

He was a gifted speaker and became a monk before travelling the length and breadth of Ireland in an attempt to reform the church.

St Malachy feared it was subsiding into Pagan Celtic practices.

He also thought to do away with the custom of married monks passing on the priesthood to their sons. For his tireless efforts he was made Bishop of Ireland.

Later in middle age he made a 16-month pilgrimage to Rome.

On an early summer evening in Rome in the year 1140, whilst in the company of a band of Irish monks, he had a series of startling visions.

Bishop Malachy later wrote down the visions on yellow parchment in Latin and told his frightened companions that God had given him a vision of every pope to reign - after Innocent II - until the end of time when he said the world would be judged.

Before returning, Malachy presented Pope Innocent with a manuscript containing 111 prophecies.

The parchment remained largely forgotten in the Vatican's archives for more than 450 years, before a Benedictine historian uncovered the details of the pontiffs.

St Malachy accurately predicted the consecutive lineage of 52 popes.But after the current John Paul II there's only one more pope left to go before Judgment Day.

The producers of End Of Times are hopeful of having a hit on their hands and making a few dollars before time runs out.

"I certainly hope St Malachy got it wrong," joked Ted O'Donnell.

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The Prophecies of St Malachy

Pope No. Name (Reign) Motto No Motto (and explanation)
167 Celestine II (1143-1144) 1 Ex castro Tyberis
(from a castle on the Tiber)
Hist.: Celestin II was born in Citta di Castello, Toscany, on the shores of the Tiber
168 Lucius II (1144-1145) 2 Inimicus expulsus
169 Eugene III (1145-1153) 3 Ex magnitudine montis
(Of the greatness of the mount)
Hist.: Born in the castle of Grammont (latin: mons magnus), his family name was Montemagno
170 Anastasius IV (1153-1154) 4 Abbas Suburranus
171 Adrian IV (1154-1159) 5 De rure albo
(field of Albe)
Hist.: Born in the town of Saint-Alban
Antipope Victor IV (1159-1164) 6 Ex tetro carcere
Antipope Paschal III (1164-1168) 7 Via trans-Tyberina
Antipope Calistus III (1168-1178) 8 De Pannonia Tusciae
172 Alexander III (1159-1181) 9 Ex ansere custode
173 Lucius III (1181-1185) 10 Lux in ostio
174 Urban III (1185-1187) 11 Sus in cribo
175 Gregory VIII (1187) 12 Ensis Laurentii
176 Clement III (1187-1191) 13 De schola exiet
177 Celestine III (1191-1198) 14 De rure bovensi
178 Innocent III (1198-1216) 15 Comes signatus
(signed Count)
Hist.: descendant of the noble Signy, later called Segni family
179 Honorius III (1216-1227) 16 Canonicus de latere
180 Gregory IX (1227-1241) 17 Avis Ostiensis
(Bird of Ostia)
Hist.: before his election he was Cardinal of Ostia
181 Celestine IV (1241) 18 Leo Sabinus
182 Innocent IV (1243-1254) 19 Comes Laurentius
183 Alexander IV (1254-1261) 20 Signum Ostiense
184 Urban IV (1261-1264) 21 Hierusalem Campaniae
(Jerusalem of Champagne)
Hist.: native of Troyes, Champagne, later patriarch of Jerusalem
185 Clement IV (1265-1268) 22 Draca depressus
186 Gregory X (1271-1276) 23 Anguinus vir
187 Innocent V (1276) 24 Concionatur Gallus
188 Adrian V (1276) 25 Bonus Comes
189 John XXI (1276-1277) 26 Piscator Tuscus
190 Nicholas III (1277-1280) 27 Rosa composita
191 Martin IV (1281-1285) 28 Ex teloneo liliacei Martini
192 Honorius IV (1285-1287) 29 Ex rosa leonina
193 Nicholas IV (1288-1292) 30 Picus inter escas
194 Nicholas IV (1288-1292) 31 Ex eremo celsus
(elevated from a hermit)
Hist.: prior to his election he was a hermit in the monastery of Pouilles
195 Boniface VIII (1294-1303) 32 Ex undarum benedictione
196 Benedict XI (1303-1304) 33 Concionator patereus
197 Clement V (1305-1314) 34 De fessis Aquitanicis
(ribbon of Aquitaine)
Hist.: was archbishop of Bordeaux in Aquitaine
198 John XXII (1316-1334) 35 De sutore osseo
(of the cobbler of Osseo)
Hist.: Family name Ossa, son of a shoe-maker
Antipope Nicholas V (1328-1330) 36 Corvus schismaticus
(the schismatic crow)
Note the reference to the schism, the only antipope at this period
199 Benedict XII (1334-1342) 37 Frigidus Abbas
(cold friar)
Hist.: he was a priest in the monastery of Frontfroid (coldfront)
200 Clement VI (1342-1352) 38 De rosa Attrebatensi
201 Innocent VI (1352-1362) 39 De montibus Pammachii
202 Urban V (1362-1370) 40 Gallus Vice-comes
203 Gregory XI (1370-1378) 41 Novus de Virgine forti
(novel of the virgin fort)
Hist.: count of Beaufort, later Cardinal of Ste-Marie La Neuve
Antipope Clement VII (1378-1394) 42 De cruce Apostilica
Antipope Benedict XIII (1394-1423) 43 Luna Cosmedina
Antipope Clement VIII (1423-1429) 44 Schisma Barcinonicum
204 Urban VI (1378-1389) 45 De Inferno praegnanti
205 Boniface IX (1389-1404) 46 Cubus de mixtione
206 Innocent VII (1404-1406) 47 De meliore sydere
207 Gregory XII (1406-1415) 48 Nauta de ponte nigro
Antipope Alexander V (1409-1410) 49 Flagellum Solis
Antipope John XXIII (1410-1415) 50 Cervus Sirenae
208 Martin V (1417-1431) 51 Corona veli aurei
209 Eugene IV (1431-1447) 52 Lupa caelestina
Antipope Felix V (1439-1449) 53 Amator crucis
210 Nicholas V (1447-1455) 54 De modicitate lunae
211 Callistus III (1455-1458) 55 Bos pascens
(grazing ox)
Hist.: Alphonse Borgia's arms sported a golden grazing ox
212 Pius II (1458-1464) 56 De capra et Albergo
213 Paul II (1464-1471) 57 De cervo et Leone
214 Sixtus IV (1471-1484) 58 Piscator Minorita
215 Innocent VIII (1484-1492) 59 Praecursor Siciliae
216 Alexander VI (1492-1503) 60 Bos Albanus in portu
217 Pius III (1503) 61 De parvo homine
218 Julius II (1503-1513) 62 Fructus jovis juvabit
219 Leo X (1513-1521) 63 De craticula Politiana
220 Adrian VI (1522-1523) 64 Leo Florentius
221 Clement VII (1523-1534) 65 Flos pilaei aegri
222 Paul III (1534-1549) 66 Hiacynthus medicorum
223 Julius III (1550-1555) 67 De corona Montana
224 Marcellus II (1555) 68 Frumentum floccidum
225 Paul IV (1555-1559) 69 De fide Petri
226 Pius IV (1559-1565) 70 Aesculapii pharmacum
227 St. Pius V (1566-1572) 71 Angelus nemorosus
228 Gregory XIII (1572-1585) 72 Medium corpus pilarum
229 Sixtus V (1585-1590) 73 Axis in medietate signi
230 Urban VII (1590) 74 De rore caeli
231 Gregory XIV (1590-1591) 75 De antiquitate Urbis
232 Innocent IX (1591) 76 Pia civitas in bello
233 Clement VIII (1592-1605) 77 Crux Romulea
234 Leo XI (1605) 78 Undosus Vir
235 Paul V (1605-1621) 79 Gens perversa
236 Gregory XV (1621-1623) 80 In tribulatione pacis
237 Urban VIII (1623-1644) 81 Lilium et rosa
238 Innocent X (1644-1655) 82 Jucunditas crucis
239 Alexander VII (1655-1667) 83 Montium custos
240 Clement IX (1667-1669) 84 Sydus Olorum
(constellation of swans)Hist.: upon his election, he was apparently the occupant of the Chamber of Swans in the Vatican.
241 Clement X (1670-1676) 85 De flumine magno
242 Innocent XI (1676-1689) 86 Bellua insatiabilis
243 Alexander VIII (1689-1691) 87 Poenitentia gloriosa
244 Innocent XII (1691-1700) 88 Rastrum in porta
245 Clement XI (1700-1721) 89 Flores circumdati
246 Innocent XIII (1721-1724) 90 De bona Religione
247 Benedict XIII (1724-1730) 91 Miles in bello
248 Clement XII (1730-1740) 92 Columna excelsa
249 Benedict XIV (1740-1758) 93 Animal rurale
250 Clement XIII (1758-1769) 94 Rosa Umbriae
251 Clement XIV (1769-1774) 95 Ursus velox
252 Pius VI (1775-1799) 96 Peregrinus Apostolicus
253 Pius VII (1800-1823) 97 Aquila rapax
254 Leo XII (1823-1829) 98 Canis et coluber
255 Pius VIII (1829-1830) 99 Vir religiosus
256 Gregory XVI (1831-1846) 100 De balneis hetruriae
(bath of Etruria)
Hist.: prior to his election he was member of an order founded by Saint Romuald, at Balneo, in Etruria, present day Toscany.
257 Pius IX (1846-1878) 101 Crux de cruce
258 Leo XIII (1878-1903) 102 Lumen in caelo
259 St. Pius X (1903-1914) 103 Ignis ardent
(ardent fire)
260 Benedict XV (1914-1922) 104 Religio depopulata
261 Pius XI (1922-1939) 105 Fides intrepida
262 Pius XII (1939-1958) 106 Pastor angelicus
263 John XXIII (1958-1963) 107 Pastor et Nauta
(pastor and marine)
Hist.: prior to his election he was patriarch of Venice, a marine city, home of the gondolas
264 Paul VI (1963-1978) 108 Flos florum
(flower of flowers)
Hist.: his arms displayed three lilies.
265 John Paul I (1978) 109 De medietate Lunae
(of the half of the moon)
Hist.: Albino Luciani, born in Canale d'Ogardo, diocese of Belluno, (beautiful moon) Elected pope on august 26, his reign lasted about a month, from half a moon to the next half...
266 John Paul II (1978-) 110 De labore Solis
(of the eclipse of the sun, or from the labour of the sun)
Hist.:Karol Wojtyla was born on May 18, 1920 during a solar eclipse. He also comes from behind the former Iron Curtain. He might also be seen to be the fruit of the intercession of the Woman Clothed with the Sun labouring in Revelation 12 (because of his devotion to the Virgin Mary).
267 ??? 111 Gloria olivae
268 ???   In persecutione extrema S.R.E. sedebit Petrus Romanus, qui pascet oues in multis tribulationibus: quibus transactis ciuitas septicollis diruetur, & Iudex tremêdus iudicabit populum suum. Finis.
(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)


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1 posted on 10/14/2001 11:20:44 AM PDT by Asmodeus
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To: Asmodeus
I am sure that in the film, the evil man that must not be elected will be Republican.
2 posted on 10/14/2001 11:26:00 AM PDT by ikka
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To: Asmodeus
He predicts every name?

Really??

This list reveals that ??? is the man to watch...

How do you pronounce ????

3 posted on 10/14/2001 11:26:58 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
I've got the book, "The Prophecies of St. Malachi". It's very interesting, and available from www.tanbooks.com
4 posted on 10/14/2001 11:29:16 AM PDT by sittnick
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To: sittnick
"...I've got the book, "The Prophecies of St. Malachi". It's very interesting, and available from www.tanbooks.com..."

Is there a reason that the name of the next Pope isn't listed above? Does St. Malachy actually predict a name?

5 posted on 10/14/2001 11:39:47 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
Peter the Roman
6 posted on 10/14/2001 11:42:26 AM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: DWSUWF
No, not a name, only a motto. The motto for the next pope is Glory of the Olive. Some think this refers to the Jewish born Bishop of Paris (Mount of Olives).
7 posted on 10/14/2001 11:43:43 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: Rightwing Canuck
He never predicted the names of any of them; he wrote down inscriptions in Latin (ie. for the one after the current pope it's "Gloria olivae" - Glory of the Olives. And the last one (not necessarily the next one after "Gloria olivae") he wrote down Petrus Romanus.
8 posted on 10/14/2001 11:44:27 AM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: Asmodeus
hooey! next you'll ask me to believe the bullpuckey of Nostrildamus. Don't you think the Catholic Church would prevent anyone from naming themselves Pope John Paul II, if they knew that after him would be the end of the world? Also, Fortune Telling is verboten in the bible. They wouldn't make a fortune teller a saint.

show me the proof of 'Saint Malachi'

9 posted on 10/14/2001 11:45:52 AM PDT by Big Guy and Rusty 99
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
Don't you think the Catholic Church would prevent anyone from naming themselves Pope John Paul II, if they knew that after him would be the end of the world?

Why would they prevent him having that name? Malachi never predicted names.

10 posted on 10/14/2001 11:47:41 AM PDT by Rightwing Canuck
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To: DWSUWF
Concerning the Popes

The most famous and best known prophecies about the popes are those attributed to St. Malachy. In 1139 he went to Rome to give an account of the affairs of his diocese to the pope, Innocent II, who promised him two palliums for the metropolitan Sees of Armagh and Cashel. While at Rome, he received (according to the Abbé Cucherat) the strange vision of the future wherein was unfolded before his mind the long list of illustrious pontiffs who were to rule the Church until the end of time. The same author tells us that St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and that the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes", ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries. The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy", is a strong argument against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years.

These short prophetical announcements, in number 112, indicate some noticeable trait of all future popes from Celestine II, who was elected in the year 1130, until the end of the world. They are enunciated under mystical titles. Those who have undertaken to interpret and explain these symbolical prophecies have succeeded in discovering some trait, allusion, point, or similitude in their application to the individual popes, either as to their country, their name, their coat of arms or insignia, their birth-place, their talent or learning, the title of their cardinalate, the dignities which they held etc. For example, the prophecy concerning Urban VIII is Lilium et Rosa (the lily and the rose); he was a native of Florence and on the arms of Florence figured a fleur-de-lis; he had three bees emblazoned on his escutcheon, and the bees gather honey from the lilies and roses. Again, the name accords often with some remarkable and rare circumstance in the pope's career; thus Peregrinus apostolicus (pilgrim pope), which designates Pius VI, appears to be verified by his journey when pope into Germany, by his long career as pope, and by his expatriation from Rome at the end of his pontificate. Those who have lived and followed the course of events in an intelligent manner during the pontificates of Pius IX, Leo XIII, and Pius X cannot fail to be impressed with the titles given to each by the prophecies of St. Malachy and their wonderful appropriateness: Crux de Cruce (Cross from a Cross) Pius IX; Lumen in caelo (Light in the Sky) Leo XIII; Ignis ardens (Burning Fire) Pius X. There is something more than coincidence in the designations given to these three popes so many hundred years before their time. We need not have recourse either to the family names, armorial bearings or cardinalatial titles, to see the fitness of their designations as given in the prophecies. The afflictions and crosses of Pius IX were more than fell to the lot of his predecessors; and the more aggravating of these crosses were brought on by the House of Savoy whose emblem was a cross. Leo XIII was a veritable luminary of the papacy. The present pope is truly a burning fire of zeal for the restoration of all things to Christ.

The last of these prophecies concerns the end of the world and is as follows: "In the final persecution of the Holy Roman Church there will reign Peter the Roman, who will feed his flock amid many tribulations, after which the seven-hilled city will be destroyed and the dreadful Judge will judge the people. The End." It has been noticed concerning Petrus Romanus, who according to St. Malachy's list is to be the last pope, that the prophecy does not say that no popes will intervene between him and his predecessor designated Gloria olivoe. It merely says that he is to be the last, so that we may suppose as many popes as we please before "Peter the Roman". Cornelius a Lapide refers to this prophecy in his commentary "On the Gospel of St. John" (C. xvi) and "On the Apocalypse" (cc. xvii-xx), and he endeavours to calculate according to it the remaining years of time.

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11 posted on 10/14/2001 11:48:39 AM PDT by mdittmar
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To: Asmodeus
The full article: http://www.people.co.uk/shtml/NEWS/P10S3.shtml
PROPHECIES COME TO SCREEN: 'END OF THE WORLD' FILM US DUMPS

UNITED STATES distributors have pulled out of talks about a major new movie about an Irish saint who predicted that the world would end soon after the reign of Pope John Paul II.

The move comes against the background of the attacks on America and the bombing of Afghanistan.

End of Times will star top Hollywood actor Martin Sheen as a renegade monk who tries to head off disaster by blocking the election of a world leader.

The producer of the huge project says until recently the prophecies of St Malachy seemed 'far fetched'.

But Ted McDonnell of Orient West Pictures told us: "Now it has taken on a new sense of urgency."

Sheen, who starred in legendary Vietnam movie Apocolypse Now, plays a monk who tries to head off the appointment of the leader.

He believes that man would start the global war known in the Bible as Armageddon.

Said McDonnell: "Unfortunately the subject matter which seemed quite esoteric and far-fetched some months ago has scared off American distributors.

"Luckily though, the financial backing is European."

End Of Times was written by Limerick-born writer Justin Cleary.

It's based on the prophecies of St Malachy who laid down his warnings on a yellow parchment scroll in 1140.

Said McDonnell: "The film will juxtapose between the contemporary modern day and the dark ages in Ireland.

"We'll be filming in a monastic site in Co Kerry as well as modern-day Rome and various capitals throughout the world.

"A desperate Father Nicholas, a Dominican Friar, played by Sheen, tries to warn world leaders of the doom they are about to wreak upon the whole world."

St Malachy famously predicted the name of every pope since the 12th Century reign of Innocent II.

He was born in Co Armagh in the year 1094 into a wealthy chieftain clan.

He was a gifted speaker and became a monk before travelling the length and breadth of Ireland in an attempt to reform the church.

St Malachy feared it was subsiding into Pagan Celtic practices.

He also thought to do away with the custom of married monks passing on the priesthood to their sons.

For his tireless efforts he was made Bishop of Ireland.

Later in middle age he made a 16-month pilgrimage to Rome.

On an early summer evening in Rome in the year 1140, whilst in the company of a band of Irish monks, he had a series of startling visions.

Bishop Malachy later wrote down the visions on yellow parchment in Latin and told his frightened companions that God had given him a vision of every pope to reign - after Innocent II - until the end of time when he said the world would be judged.

Before returning, Malachy presented Pope Innocent with a manuscript containing 111 prophecies.

The parchment remained largely forgotten in the Vatican's archives for more than 450 years, before a Benedictine historian uncovered the details of the pontiffs.

St Malachy accurately predicted the consecutive lineage of 52 popes.But after the current John Paul II there's only one more pope left to go before Judgment Day.

The producers of End Of Times are hopeful of having a hit on their hands and making a few dollars before time runs out.

"I certainly hope St Malachy got it wrong," joked Ted O'Donnell.

"If Malachy was around in our age he would be in hot demand as a script writer of action and adventure movies, he was after all a very eloquent and articulate scribe."

Directed by Jorge Levinsen, it is scheduled for release next year.


12 posted on 10/14/2001 11:50:49 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Rightwing Canuck
Peter the Roman follows "Glory of the Olive". The Catholic Church's position is that there may be intevening popes, the prophecy only says Peter will rule in the last days, not that there will be no other popes between "Glory of the Olive" and Peter the Roman. This seems a little tortured to me...
13 posted on 10/14/2001 11:51:20 AM PDT by Jack Black
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To: mdittmar
Thanks for your reply. It seems to be a story worth knowing more about.
14 posted on 10/14/2001 11:55:32 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: DWSUWF
Is there a reason that the name of the next Pope isn't listed above? Does St. Malachy actually predict a name?

The prophecies of St. Malachy present the mottos of the popes, rather than the pope's names. The next one is said to be "Gloria olivae". Other people later read the prophecies and tied the pope's names to the listed mottos based upon various circumstances of their lives, apparently.

15 posted on 10/14/2001 12:11:41 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Jack Black
Since the first Pope was named Peter, it makes sense that the last should also be named Peter.

And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. (Matthew 16:18)

If you find this list credible (and it's not the sort of thing any Catholic is obliged to believe), there could be more intervening popes between JPII's successor and this hypothetical Peter. Alternatively, Peter may actually be the same as the last one listed, since none of the popes except him are named, and even in his case the name might be an allegorical reference to his office. Without a strong sign from God, would any pope venture to name himself Peter II?

Nevertheless, let's hope that the College of Cardinals doesn't do what it sometimes does after the long reign of a strong pope. Namely, pick a very old man as a compromise candidate, while they take more time to deliberate the matter. God's will be done, but the world needs another strong leader like JPII.

16 posted on 10/14/2001 12:43:47 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: mdittmar
Great information. In essence, what that article said is that it took an extreme amount of effort to make St. Malachi's prophecy fit each pope. Including looking to the place of their birth and the coat of arms!

This is just another example of the Barnum Effect. If you say something broad or vague enough, people will see a connection to themselves or someone else. This is a bunch of bogus hooey.

If you are a Christian believer, Jesus says of the end of times no one knows when it will happen, not even Him, only the Father. That the Christ will return as a "thief in the night" when no one expects it. So, essentially, anybody who claims to know when the world will end, from a Christian perspective, is trying to say that he knows better than Christ. That is a pretty amazing statement for a 'Christian' to make.

People continually claim that this that or the other fulfills prophecy. My favorite book as an example of this was written in the 1860s explaining how Napoleon III was the anti-christ and the world was going to end in 1870-something... Sheesh.

17 posted on 10/14/2001 1:07:29 PM PDT by valhallasone
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To: Asmodeus
No he said there will be 2 more and the last one would be called Peter.
18 posted on 10/14/2001 1:10:36 PM PDT by classygreeneyedblonde
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To: classygreeneyedblonde
"No he said there will be 2 more and the last one would be called Peter."

I believe you're right.

The next Pope will be Godly, and the one after that an apostate. it's Believed that John Paul II takes these prophecies very seriously, and that is the reason he has been so determined to stack the College of Cardinals with as many conservative, old-school bishops as possible...

To block the path of the apostate.

19 posted on 10/14/2001 1:22:09 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Cicero
Malachy only gave motto's. So given that information, Petrus Romanus should be the motto of the last Pope, not his name. I believe Petrus means stone. So the last pope could be an Italian stone cutter or mason. Or the son of one.

These are a little vague, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

20 posted on 10/14/2001 1:22:35 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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To: Asmodeus
What about Y2K ?
21 posted on 10/14/2001 1:26:00 PM PDT by uncbob
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Well duh, even if the cardinals believed this hokus-pokum, it would be a simple matter to forestall the end of the world. Just don't elect as Pope any Italian named Peter(or Richard, for that matter). And for good measure stay away from any candidate connected with Rome, GA, Rhome, TX or The Roman Spring of Mrs. Stone.

But then again, St. Malarchy may have hit it right. Say they do pick a Peter from Rome(BTW, I think that will be my new handle when calling in to talk shows), the panicked Italians may rise up and overthrow the Vatican.

22 posted on 10/14/2001 3:47:47 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat
BTTT.

Is that possible? I never figured out if bumping to the top is actual or symbolic, or simple a flagging mechanism for later self-search.

23 posted on 10/14/2001 3:49:34 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Diddle E. Squat; Travis McGee; Manny Festo; FITZ; CatoRenasci; Cicero; Lent
I think I may have shared in the Prophecies of St. Malachy, Requiescat in Pace:

On an early summer evening in Rome in the year 1140, whilst in the
company of a band of Irish monks, he had a series of startling visions.

You see, my brothers, I myself have the drink taken in the Holy City of St.Peter, in the very same prayerful company as that good and holy Saint himself, although at a somewhat later date. I also experienced strange, mystic visions until well into the next morning. Pope, or no Pope; my head felt as if it were truly the end of the world.

Alas, my strange glimpses into the future were of the athletic variety, not the cosmically religious. I saw, clear as the day, the Washington Redskins triumph in the Super Bowl. I confess, I took money intended for Peter's Pence and backed them to the hilt, complete with an accurate spread. Riggin's running won me enough to purchase a splendid (used) motor car.

And that's no Malarchy. Amen.

24 posted on 10/14/2001 6:18:00 PM PDT by Francohio
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To: narses; Loyalist; NYer
A good time to revisit this thread?
25 posted on 10/17/2003 7:42:40 PM PDT by ckca
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To: Asmodeus
I thought it was Al Gore who predicted the names of all the Popes?
26 posted on 10/17/2003 7:46:20 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: Asmodeus
There it is a digital photo of the saint predicting this very thread!


27 posted on 10/17/2003 7:49:14 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: Big Guy and Rusty 99
As far as Nostradamus goes, you are right. Very vauge quatrains that can be applied to many situations. Did you ever watch SCTV? They had a skit once 'The Life of Nostradamus, Mr. Know It All.' He got everybody mad at him because he 'knew you would say that!' etc. VERY funny!

St Malachi is real, but again, the list of popes names is really a list of slogans, and with a little imagination, culbe be applied to a wide variety of fulfillments.

I am sure someone with some imagination (and a lot of time on their hands) could take any 43 names in a row and apply them somehow to the US presidents, or even their own extended family tree.

I do belive in prophecy though - I just don't think stuff like this is very prophetic, and more of a challenge to future generations to use their imaginations.
28 posted on 10/17/2003 7:49:54 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Truth666
here ya go
29 posted on 10/17/2003 7:52:00 PM PDT by ckca
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To: Rightwing Canuck
Petrus Romanus - yep, it goes full circle. I think there has been only one Pope Peter, the first one, and out of respect for that, no other pope has chosen the name Peter.

If the pope after the next one selects 'Peter' then there may be circumstantial evidence to start sweatin! ;)
30 posted on 10/17/2003 7:52:23 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Asmodeus
End of Times will star top Hollywood actor Martin Sheen as a renegade monk who tries to head off disaster by blocking the election of a world leader.

Now why did they have to go and ruin something that was sounding so intresting??

31 posted on 10/17/2003 7:55:56 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: Revolting cat!
Is that a real photo of St.M, or do you have a larger-screen "plasma high definition picture" version of that digital photo??


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1003163/posts
32 posted on 10/17/2003 7:57:17 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: valhallasone
Good thoughts. Personally, I am a practicing Catholic and have never been interested in when the end times are coming (though I did say that God squeezing in a Mets-Yankees world series in 2000 was a sure sign that the end was nigh).

Let her rip, I say! I won't say I would be fearless, but I won't get faithless. With faith, and a good six shooter, what more does a man need but an ample bosom to rest his weary head upon? ;-)

God's will be done, I think I heard that somewhere.
33 posted on 10/17/2003 7:57:36 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: bwteim
Thanks for the link! We're (speaking for m'self) rank amateurs here, ain't we?
34 posted on 10/17/2003 8:04:22 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Far out, man!)
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To: Revolting cat!
Thanks for the link! We're (speaking for m'self) rank amateurs here, ain't we?

You're welcome. Yep, we sure is rank (speaking for m'self) and amateurish!

35 posted on 10/17/2003 8:08:15 PM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: mdittmar
OH NO.........NOT MARTIN SHEEN. I THINK I AM GOING TO BE SICK.
36 posted on 10/17/2003 8:11:40 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: HitmanNY
(though I did say that God squeezing in a Mets-Yankees world series in 2000 was a sure sign that the end was nigh).

I recently said the same thing about a potential Cubs-Red Sox Series. I thought it may portend something apocolyptic.

Looks like we dodged the bullet...

this time. :)

37 posted on 10/17/2003 8:11:41 PM PDT by Allegra (There is no tagline within 100 miles of here! -Baghdad Bob)
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To: Allegra
Oh...and spelling "apocalyptic" correctly might help delay the end too

Drained brain...

38 posted on 10/17/2003 8:13:56 PM PDT by Allegra (There is no tagline within 100 miles of here! -Baghdad Bob)
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To: ckca
Thanks for the ping. No doubt this prediction is a strong sign of God. But God will never give the message in exact terms - so I know it's these days but I don't know which. It could be tomorrow. It could even be today.
BTW, Have your say : Is the papacy of John Paul II part of the apocalypse ?
39 posted on 10/17/2003 8:19:13 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: ckca
The fact that they pulled the fil out doesn't mean that for sure the world would end soon after the reign of Pope John Paul II.
it's actually the other way round. And no I don't mean LONG after ...
40 posted on 10/17/2003 8:39:01 PM PDT by Truth666
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To: Sabertooth
Evidently they all take it seriously. I saw a documentary on the Vatican, along the ceiling of the room that holds the pictures of all the Popes there is only one place left for a picture, no more room for another.
41 posted on 10/17/2003 9:11:19 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Asmodeus
If this guy was THAT good he would have invented hygiene.
42 posted on 10/17/2003 9:21:40 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: DWSUWF
It is pronounced Question Mark... or I don't know...
43 posted on 10/17/2003 9:30:57 PM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: A CA Guy
Naaaaahh. Romans were pagans. Romans bathed. Therefore pagans bathe (and good Christians don't).
44 posted on 10/17/2003 9:31:28 PM PDT by null and void
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To: Lady Heron
Paging Art Bell...

You can bet that in the Martin Sheen version, the evil antichrist world leader will be a Republican.

It's such obvious lefty garbage, on its face.

45 posted on 10/17/2003 9:38:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: Asmodeus
Petrus Romanus.... is the next Pope, so if the next Pope is named Peter and he is from Rome Italy or Rome Texas...or related to Jim Rome

it is time to get your house in order.

46 posted on 10/17/2003 9:42:42 PM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: All
Here is more info on the Saint
47 posted on 10/17/2003 9:44:05 PM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: Asmodeus
Gloria Olivae (Mediterranean Pope) will precede Peter of Rome.
48 posted on 10/17/2003 9:52:24 PM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: Porterville
I'm having fun with this so please forgive me for putting down more info.

More strait legend stuff

49 posted on 10/17/2003 9:56:21 PM PDT by Porterville (The Federal Government will make the rules... now shut up and take your Prozac!!!!)
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To: Betty Jane
These are a little vague, and should be taken with a grain of salt.

Or maybe a whole bowl of salt. I'll bet if you took any nine "mottos" from the list and matched them, arbitrarily, with the nine Democratic Dwarves running for president, you could find something in each man's life which would correspond to that motto. All it takes is a little imagination.

50 posted on 10/17/2003 10:13:22 PM PDT by giotto
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