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POPE JOHN PAUL, II HAS DIED OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM VATICAN IMMINENT (Breaking Nws) 9:37 PM Rome 4/2
FOX news | April 2, 2005

Posted on 04/02/2005 11:57:08 AM PST by CitizenM

Edited on 04/03/2005 6:40:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Fury

One commentator gave a great answer to Shep Smith--who was going on about how the Pope did not favor "feminism". The commentator said the Pope LOVED strong women, did much to encourage several Catholic feminist organizations, but did not go along with some of the extreme views of the feminist (Feminazi) movement. It was a great "back at ya" to Shep--whose attitude was REALLY irritating!


781 posted on 04/02/2005 3:47:38 PM PST by milagro
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To: eastsider

First, disregard what I said about the time in post #705: I got my times mixed up.

His date of death--or heavenly birthday--will be accounted as April 2, 2005, the Saturday, since that's what it was, after all. (We'll see--sooner than later is my guess--what date he will have for a feast day. April 2, it turns out, is already the feast of St. Francis of Paola, though one source gives it as optional, I think, and I'm sure that the saints don't really carp about not getting the "exact dates.")

Cardinal McCarrick mentioned "Saturday" in his homily concerning the Easter Vigil; after all, the Easter Vigil most likely begins on the prior Saturday evening. If Easter (and other high feasts, BTW, like Christmas) gets the dignity of a vigil, then it's not hard to see why Sunday, the "little Easter," may get the same. (IIRC, concerning the Catholic Encyclopedia mention: Saturday evening Vigil masses didn't begin until somewhat recently, after the writing of that Catholic Encyclopedia, which is from nearly a hundred years ago. There used to be stricter limits on the time of day when masses were permitted.)

As others have already written, Saturday evening masses can fulfill the Sunday obligation. As I also wrote in #705, the first reading at the Mass now being celebrated at St. Matthew's Cathedral in Washington was for the Sunday, the homily was for the Sunday, and it's still early Saturday evening. This was around 6 pm in Washington, and the Pope died after 9 pm in Rome.


782 posted on 04/02/2005 3:48:46 PM PST by Lonely Bull (Requiem aeternam dona ei, Domine, et lux perpetua luceat ei. Requiescat in pace.)
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To: CitizenM
RIP John Paul II

My sincere condolences and prayers to those of the Catholic faith. Though I do not share your denomination, JP II was a great man and an inspiration to all who follow and love god.

783 posted on 04/02/2005 3:50:35 PM PST by commish (Freedom Tastes Sweetest to Those Who Have Fought to Preserve It)
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To: texasbluebell

I saved that picture. Thank you.


784 posted on 04/02/2005 3:50:40 PM PST by mitchbert (Facts Are Stubborn Things .)
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To: All

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785 posted on 04/02/2005 3:51:17 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: Smartass
"DOVE'S UP!"

Safe Journey. Mission Accomplished. Job Well Done.

786 posted on 04/02/2005 3:51:21 PM PST by AmericanInTokyo (**AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS NOT SO MUCH "WHO" WE STAND FOR, BUT RATHER "WHAT" WE STAND FOR**)
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To: All; CitizenM

http://www.vatican.va/gpII/bulletin/B0184-XX.02.pdf

! TRADUZIONE IN LINGUA INGLESE
The Holy Father died at 9.37 this evening in his private apartment.
At 8 p.m. the celebration of Mass for Divine Mercy Sunday began in the Holy Father's room, presided by Archbishop Stanis»aw Dziwisz with the participation of Cardinal Marian Jaworski,of Archbishop Stanis»aw Ry»ko and of Msgr. Mieczys»aw Mokrzycki.


During the course of the Mass, the Viaticum was administered to the Holy Father and, once again, the Sacrament of Anointing of the Sick.


The Holy Father's final hours were marked by the uninterrupted prayer of all those who were assisting him in his pious death, and by the choral participation in prayer of the thousands of faithful who, for many hours, had been gathered in St. Peter's Square.

Present at the moment of the death of John Paul II were: his two personal secretaries Archbishop Stanis»aw Dziwisz and Msgr. Mieczys»aw Mokrzycki, Cardinal Marian Jaworski, Archbishop Stanis»aw Ry»ko, Fr. Tadeusz Stycze½, the three nuns, Handmaidens of the Sacred
Heart of Jesus, who assist in the Holy Father's apartment, guided by the Superior Sr. Tobiana Sobódka, and the Pope's personal physician Dr. Renato Buzzonetti, with the two doctors on call, Dr. Alessandro Barelli and Dr. Ciro D'Allo, and the two nurses on call.

Immediately afterwards Cardinal Secretary of State Angelo Sodano arrived, as did the camerlengo of Holy Roman Church, Cardinal Eduardo Martínez Somalo, Archbishop Leonardo Sandri, substitute of the Secretariat of State, and Archbishop Paolo Sardi, vice-camerlengo of
Holy Roman Church.

Thereafter, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, dean of the College of Cardinals, and Cardinal Jozef Tomko also arrived.

Tomorrow, Divine Mercy Sunday, at 10.30 a.m., a Mass for the repose of the soul of the Holy Father will be celebrated in St. Peter's Square, presided over by Cardinal Angelo Sodano.

At 12 noon, the Marian prayer of Easter time, the Regina Coeli, will be recited.

BOLLETTINO N. 0184 - 02.04.2005 3

The body of the late pontiff is expected to be brought to the Vatican Basilica no earlier than Monday afternoon.

The first General Congregation of Cardinals will be held at 10 a.m. on Monday April 4 in the Bologna Hall of the Apostolic Palace.

[00399-02.01] [Original text: Italian]
[B0184-XX.02]


787 posted on 04/02/2005 3:52:04 PM PST by Sonar5 (60+ Million have Spoken Clearly - "We Want Our Country Back")
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To: Fudd Fan

yup, add Maggie Thatcher, Pres. Truman(dropped the big one), and FDR.


788 posted on 04/02/2005 3:52:52 PM PST by cornfedcowboy
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To: Howlin
Thanks for the ping. Ironically, I was attending a funeral for a family friend this afternoon and did not know JPII had passed until I just turned the TV on just now.

Rest In Eternal Peace, Holy Father.

789 posted on 04/02/2005 3:57:39 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: backhoe

Wow!! Superb photo and thanks for posting it on this site. Yes, hearing the live coverage of the Pope's passing is already bringing fresh reminders of President Reagan's passing, since it hasn't still been a year yet.


790 posted on 04/02/2005 3:58:34 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: Grzegorz 246

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791 posted on 04/02/2005 3:59:14 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: Mo1
What a beautiful prayer.
792 posted on 04/02/2005 3:59:16 PM PST by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: kstewskis

My Fathers parents came from Warsaw. Yes, I'm proud that this wonderful Pope came from Poland.


793 posted on 04/02/2005 4:02:32 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Smartass

That's what they were saying on TV. Some Popes, like Presidents, are extra special and John Paul was one of them.


794 posted on 04/02/2005 4:04:28 PM PST by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Smartass

Have you heard it sung???


795 posted on 04/02/2005 4:04:36 PM PST by Hand em their arse
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To: CitizenM
"open arms of Our Lady of Fatima for whom you had such special devotion. "

9+3+7=2+4+2+5 = Satan rules - NOT!!!


796 posted on 04/02/2005 4:07:02 PM PST by Truth666 (THE PASSION OF THERESA MARIA SCHINDLER ON HOLY FRIDAY 2005)
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Thank You, Pope John Paul II.


797 posted on 04/02/2005 4:08:24 PM PST by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: TexKat; Gucho; Ernest_at_the_Beach; MEG33; Grampa Dave; gatorbait; PhilDragoo; potlatch; ...

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798 posted on 04/02/2005 4:08:28 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: MeekOneGOP

Rest in peace, faithful servant of the Lord.


799 posted on 04/02/2005 4:10:23 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Smartass
What a beautiful prayer.

I think so too

Always makes be tear up at mass whenever this hymn is sung

800 posted on 04/02/2005 4:12:44 PM PST by Mo1
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