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POPE JOHN PAUL, II HAS DIED OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM VATICAN IMMINENT (Breaking Nws) 9:37 PM Rome 4/2
FOX news | April 2, 2005

Posted on 04/02/2005 11:57:08 AM PST by CitizenM

Edited on 04/03/2005 6:40:57 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: potlatch
This Holy mans death is a great loss to the world.

Yes, it certainly is, Potlatch.

If the Catholic Church can find someone only HALF as
good as Pope John Paul II, they have really done GOOD! :)


801 posted on 04/02/2005 4:13:43 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (There is only one GOOD 'RAT: one that has been voted OUT of POWER !! Straight ticket GOP!)
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To: Mo1

"Be Not Afraid", such a lovely and fitting poem for his final days here on Earth. I believe the Holy Father taught all of us, to not fear death these last few days.


802 posted on 04/02/2005 4:14:07 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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To: george wythe

I'd like to think they are walking together like this in Heaven right now.


803 posted on 04/02/2005 4:14:26 PM PST by jbarkley
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To: Lonely Bull; ELS
In the summer, all the Saturday evening Sunday vigil masses I'm familiar with occur before sunset, which practice doesn't have any tradition to back it up. Still, if the Church says that those summer vigil masses satisfy the Sunday obligation, then they do. In fact, the Church takes liberties with the calendar all the time, such as we see this year when Easter in the West falls before Passover. The issue is de minimis.
804 posted on 04/02/2005 4:15:42 PM PST by eastsider
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To: kstewskis

Thank you"kstewskis"Boze moj Boze:{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{


805 posted on 04/02/2005 4:15:42 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: CitizenM; All
To all the Catholic Freepers, I extend my condolences for your loss. Here's hoping that the selection process lofts a good replacement.

D1
806 posted on 04/02/2005 4:16:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: anonymoussierra
Maybe you just need a hug!

807 posted on 04/02/2005 4:17:30 PM PST by luvie (Freedom is on the march. Freedom is the birthright and deep desire of every human soul.GWB 3-29-05)
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To: DoughtyOne

I second that posting also.


809 posted on 04/02/2005 4:17:50 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: Augusto

Christopher Hitchens is a disgusting anti-catholic, anti-spiritual goon. He's a ultra left liberal who holds nothing sacred--and a socialist. If it wasn't insulting to a band I like greatly, I'd say he was a knight in satan's service.


810 posted on 04/02/2005 4:19:13 PM PST by Schwaeky (Sede Vacante)
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To: Lonely Bull
If Easter (and other high feasts, BTW, like Christmas) gets the dignity of a vigil, then it's not hard to see why Sunday, the "little Easter," may get the same.

That's essentially correct.

Following the Jewish tradition of having the Sabbath begin at sunset of the previous evening, our Sunday celebration begins with First Vespers (Evening Prayer) on Saturday, and ends with Compline on Sunday night. A Mass which fulfills the Sunday obligation can be celebrated any time in between. The Vigil Mass was more common in ancient times than in more recent centuries, and the practice was revived by the Second Vatican Council, which also recommended an increased public celebration of the Liturgy of the Hours.

Vespers is nominally said around sunset or at 6pm, but there's a good deal of flexibility allowed, especially if pastoral considerations recommend an earlier time. The major hours of Lauds and Vespers can also be combined with Mass, which essentially means a recitation of three psalms (with antiphons) and the appropriate Gospel Canticle (Benedictus for Lauds or Magnificat for Vespers) after Communion.

I have found that the public celebration of the Hours is fairly rare outside of religious communities in the States, but major churches in Europe, e.g., London's Westminster Cathedral, do maintain this ancient practice, which goes back at least to St. Augustine.

As you probably know, there is a table of precedence for various feasts. This week is one continuous celebration of Easter Sunday, which does not end until Vespers tomorrow evening, and this takes precedence over all other potential feasts. This Sunday, which used to be known as Low Sunday, and is now Divine Mercy Sunday by decree of our Holy Father of blessed memory, is actually the last day of the Easter celebration.

811 posted on 04/02/2005 4:19:42 PM PST by neocon
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To: anonymoussierra

God bless and comfort you in this difficult, anonymoussierra.


812 posted on 04/02/2005 4:20:49 PM PST by Larry Lucido (We miss ya, Indie! Law Enforcement Against Prohibition - http://www.leap.cc)
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To: MeekOneGOP

The woman on Fox said something that was very touching.

I'm paraphrasing - he was neither liberal or conservative, he was Catholic and it transcends everything else.


813 posted on 04/02/2005 4:23:53 PM PST by jbarkley
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To: Larry Lucido; LUV W; LadyPilgrim

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814 posted on 04/02/2005 4:24:17 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: backhoe

The good old days...


815 posted on 04/02/2005 4:25:39 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Thank You sooooooooo much. We lost our Father today. At least that's how I'm feeling today. I'm sure many other Catholics feel the same.

My prayer now will be that the Holy Spirit guides the Cardinals to give us a Pope that comes close to John Paul II.

It's funny , sometimes I think my teenagers have no clue to what goes on in the world beyond the cell phone & computer.
My oldest said to me when he heard The Pope had passed was "I feel sorry for whoever is the next Pope,because he will have to fill size 24 shoes".
816 posted on 04/02/2005 4:26:25 PM PST by tiredoflaundry (My quaker parrot can talk, can Your honor student fly?)
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To: lizol; JoAnka; Grzegorz 246; Lukasz

Powstancie ukochani trzymajcie sie w sercu pamietajacie, ze on jest z nami.Bog zaplac


817 posted on 04/02/2005 4:28:03 PM PST by anonymoussierra ("Et iube me venire ad te, ut cum Sanctis tuis laudem te in saecula saeculorum. Amen.")
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To: Lonely Bull; All

Won't tomorrow -- the day the first Vatican mass will be said for John Paul II (9 hours from now) -- be Orthodox Easter Sunday?


818 posted on 04/02/2005 4:28:30 PM PST by La Enchiladita (God bless you, Terri, and all who truly loved you and tried to help you...God help the U.S.A)
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To: CitizenM

Beautiful post I'm sure you put a lot of effort into it Well done and quite honoring

God Bless you for your Efforts.

RB


819 posted on 04/02/2005 4:29:18 PM PST by Rightly Biased (Lazamataz Dead in a Tragic sex accident! See your local obit)
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To: tiredoflaundry

Kids will surprise you, for sure. They can been the messengers of doom, and also the silver linings on gloomy days.


820 posted on 04/02/2005 4:30:56 PM PST by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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