[SoCar]

Nobody here has forgotten that the Nazis started with killing the disabled first before they killed the Jews. OK?? It's just that simply because the legal system has gone astray and a disabled woman has been starved to death because her "husband" convinced a court that she wanted to die does not make this Nazi Germany!! It's wrong and evil but not the third Reich.

There is no plan in the US to exterminate a race or class of people. This case was an abomination that occurred under very strange circumstances. We should all work hard to prevent this from ever happening again. But this is not like Nazi Germany so stop diminishing what happened to the Jews who were sent to gas chambers. It is not the same and we are not on the way. Get it!!!

I am Jewish and am very sensitive to the comparisons. They are over the top and do more to defeat our cause then help it. Stick to the horrors we have here and stay away from the "slippery slope." It is not persuasive and does not help.

[ladyjane]

Sorry. I disagree. There is widespread 'facilitation of the death process' taking place every day in hospices and nursing homes. Florida has the most at stake with their millions of elderly. This is not an isolated case.

[supercat]

There is no plan in the US to exterminate a race or class of people.

Florida laws were changed to allow the starvation of Terri Schindler (Schiavo). Which seems more likely:

1. People went through all that trouble just to murder one woman
2. People went through all that trouble so they could murder more people

Call me a conspiracy theorist if you must, but people who go through that much trouble generally have some motive. Motive #2 sounds much more plausible than motive #1. Can you offer any other motive you'd find more plausible still?

[blackbart.223]

"I am Jewish and am very sensitive to the comparisons. They are over the top and do more to defeat our cause then help it. Stick to the horrors we have here and stay away from the "slippery slope." It is not persuasive and does not help."

What the hell is the matter with you? The "slippery slope" starts with one snowflake.

You ,as a Jew, should understand this!

[beyond the sea]

I am Jewish and am very sensitive to the comparisons. They are over the top and do more to defeat our cause then help it. Stick to the horrors we have here and stay away from the "slippery slope." It is not persuasive and does not help.

Excuse me SoCar, but why don't you drop the concern over the Nazi comparisons and stick to the SUBJECT intended by the thread's poster......that a well respected outside, independent observer was not allowed at the Medical Examination?

Leave the thread to those who want to talk about the subject raised in the beginning.

[Cicero]

Actually the Euthanasia movement has been working for years to universalize what so far is only legal in Oregon: openly killing people in hospitals.

Holland shows how far this can go. First you kill those who ask to be "assisted" to commit suicide. Then you kill those whose family want them dead. Then you kill those who are too expensive to keep alive. Then you kill those who are inconvenient and, in at least one documented case, kept a doctor from going on vacation. Then you kill children with minor handicaps.

Our medicare system is broken and bleeding dollars. Who is to say that there won't be a massive killing of older people who cost too much money to keep in good health? It's already happening in Holland. And let's not forget the deaths of 40 million innocent, unborn babies--many of them still alive after their abortions, but starved or thrown into the garbage rather than rescued.

When medical personnel get into the habit of killing people it becomes extremely dangerous for anyone who falls under their care.