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Brits Endorse Flakey Reiki (New Age nitwittery embraced by the mainstream in Blighty)
Time ^ | March 28, 2005 | Leon Jaroff

Posted on 04/03/2005 3:48:28 PM PDT by quidnunc

A hospital takes up a mystical healing technique

In what the British press has characterized as a "ground-breaking" move, the Middlesex Hospital in London has appointed a "healer," whose salary is paid by the country's National Health Service (NHS), to treat young leukemia patients suffering from the side effects of chemotherapy.

Several times a week, in 30 minute private sessions with each of several young patients in the hospital's pediatric oncology ward, Graham King, 57, places his hands on different parts of their bodies and "channels" all-healing "cosmic energy" into them. This is troubling because, by funding this and other healers, the NHS is, in effect, giving British governmental sanction to quackery.

King was hired after staff members in the oncology ward heard that he and his wife, a faith healer also funded by the NHS, had produced beneficial effects on patients at another British hospital. It's not that King is unique. He is practicing a mystical, ancient Tibetan technique now called Reiki (pronounced RAY-KEY), which was revived in the 1920s by two Japanese doctors.

Since that time, to hear Reiki devotees tell it, the technique has enjoyed an impressive revival. In U.S., for example, it's especially popular among New Agers. And Reikians claim that a million people around the world administer the energy flow to as many as 60 million recipients. They may be right. Google alone lists 3,640,000 "Reiki" entries from individuals and groups in dozens of countries. Among them, for example, are outfits that advertise Reiki treatments not only for humans but even for horses and pets. One U.S. group goes so far as to claim that Reiki gives its members the power to talk to their dogs, a feat that even I can accomplish, and with minimal energy.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: apostasy; britain; endtimes; england; greatbritain; scotland; signofthetimes; signsofthetimes; uk; unitedkingdom; wales

1 posted on 04/03/2005 3:48:29 PM PDT by quidnunc
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To: quidnunc

At first reading I confused Reiki with Raku.

However, Raku is a form of firing pottery whereby you fling raw clay in a bucket of burning paper and cross your fingers.

MMMMMMMmmmmmmmmm Maybe they are one & the same!


2 posted on 04/03/2005 3:55:01 PM PDT by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: quidnunc

If it doesn't replace all the other therapies, but only is offered in addition to them, and it stirs something within the child (even if a placebo effect) that causes their body's immune system to respond....then why not?


3 posted on 04/03/2005 3:55:04 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: quidnunc; Quix; nmh; Esther Ruth
I know this may sound extremely eccentric (nutty in popular term) to my British friends and perhaps most American friends as well, but I can't but be reminded of an article about Britain on a Christian website after reading this:

The Bird Cage

Toxin #7 - Apostasy in the Church

The Bible indicates that one of the major signs of the end times will be apostasy in the church. It is doubtful that the spiritual darkness will be confined to one region of the world. Because Europe appears to be in a more advanced state of apostasy, it seems beneficial to the rest of the world to be mindful of what has happened to the European church.

As it currently stands, the number of people in Europe who actually practice their faith has declined to the lower single digits. The dismal statistic shows up in the number of people who visit Rapture Ready. Great Britain is 15 times the size of Australia, and yet there are more people who visit the site from Australia than from the United Kingdom.

The fact that so few American Christians are concerned about the state of the Church in Europe is one sign that we in the U.S. are not too far behind that ever-darkening area of the world out of which our nation sprang.

4 posted on 04/03/2005 3:57:13 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: silverleaf
silverleaf wrote: If it doesn't replace all the other therapies, but only is offered in addition to them, and it stirs something within the child (even if a placebo effect) that causes their body's immune system to respond....then why not?

Here's why not!

The British National Health Service is in a total shambles with a shortage of doctors and dentists, antiquated equipment and hospitals contaminated bu antibiotic-resistant germs because of a lack of proper cleaning.

Yet here they are piddling away money on New Age quacks.

5 posted on 04/03/2005 4:07:08 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: silverleaf

Reiki is a quack medicine. My ex was into it. It cost her and her current husband a small fortune and it did nothing except make me laugh. Do a qick google search on Reiki and quack.

Feng shui is another one that makes me laugh. PT Barnum was right on the money.


6 posted on 04/03/2005 4:07:51 PM PDT by Dutch Boy
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To: sodpoodle

Raku is a form of firing pottery whereby you fling raw clay in a bucket of burning paper and cross your fingers.

Not exactly.


7 posted on 04/03/2005 4:09:32 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: quidnunc
"Several times a week, in 30 minute private sessions with each of several young patients in the hospital's pediatric oncology ward, Graham King, 57, places his hands on different parts of their bodies and "channels" all-healing "cosmic energy" into them. . ."

It is no wonder the NHS is broke. Among being socialized and terrible, they employ quacks.
8 posted on 04/03/2005 4:18:25 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: quidnunc

Yeah, I think the NHS needs something more than their chakras balanced.


9 posted on 04/03/2005 4:20:43 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: quidnunc

My wife had breast cancer metastatic to the bones for 6 years until spread to her liver, kidneys and brain last year and killed her. Cancer in the bones has been likened to a whole body toothache in terms of pain. She had all kinds of chemotherapy and pain killers and also went to Reiki treatments twice a week for several years. She got enormous relief from it. Perhaps it's quackery but it is also possibly true that comments from people without any experience with this should be somewhat more restrained.


10 posted on 04/03/2005 4:22:21 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods
muir_redwoods wrote: My wife had breast cancer metastatic to the bones for 6 years until spread to her liver, kidneys and brain last year and killed her. Cancer in the bones has been likened to a whole body toothache in terms of pain. She had all kinds of chemotherapy and pain killers and also went to Reiki treatments twice a week for several years. She got enormous relief from it. Perhaps it's quackery but it is also possibly true that comments from people without any experience with this should be somewhat more restrained.

If people want to patronize New Age healers that should be their right, but they should not be entitled to have that New Age healing paid for out of public monies.

11 posted on 04/03/2005 4:29:09 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: muir_redwoods

"My wife had breast cancer metastatic to the bones for 6 years until spread to her liver, kidneys and brain last year and killed her. Cancer in the bones has been likened to a whole body toothache in terms of pain. She had all kinds of chemotherapy and pain killers and also went to Reiki treatments twice a week for several years. She got enormous relief from it. Perhaps it's quackery but it is also possibly true that comments from people without any experience with this should be somewhat more restrained."


I had chemo for Hep C. When I found out I had it and before the chemo started I went to a psychologist and learned how to do healing imagery. I was one of a handful that had total remission of the virus out of hundreds in my study group. I don't know if the meditation really affected anything but something worked.


12 posted on 04/03/2005 4:30:25 PM PDT by dljordan
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To: Dutch Boy
All the Reiki practitioners I've ever met are weirdos, there hasn't been one I thought was sane.
13 posted on 04/03/2005 4:32:41 PM PDT by pubmom (I'm out of clever things to say.)
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To: quidnunc

I agree.


14 posted on 04/03/2005 4:33:47 PM PDT by pubmom (I'm out of clever things to say.)
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To: quidnunc
"If people want to patronize New Age healers that should be their right, but they should not be entitled to have that New Age healing paid for out of public monies."

If public monies are to be paid at all (a position I do not support) upon what direct experience with Reiki do you base your opinion?

15 posted on 04/03/2005 4:38:08 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: toothfairy86

Put your HANDS on the radio...


16 posted on 04/03/2005 4:58:44 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: tet68

Oh jeez - you got me!

Shoulda known there would be at least one Freeper with technical expertise on 1800 degree pre-firing kilns............

shut up!!!!!!

sp


17 posted on 04/03/2005 5:10:34 PM PDT by sodpoodle (sparrows are underrated)
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To: muir_redwoods

Was it just Reiki or Reiki in combination with other therapy?


18 posted on 04/03/2005 5:27:49 PM PDT by Clock King
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To: sodpoodle

Hahaha, mostly we used pine straw.
My mom was a potter who went to Japan.
Raku was just a fun thing, she did more
reduction firing on a gas kiln.


19 posted on 04/03/2005 5:52:00 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Clock King
Was it just Reiki or Reiki in combination with other therapy?

It involves both Ricky and Lucy

20 posted on 04/03/2005 5:52:48 PM PDT by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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To: quidnunc
How does this "therapy" measure up to standard threatments in double-blind,placebo controlled research studies.

I'll wager that the answer is "not so hot".

21 posted on 04/03/2005 5:59:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative
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To: quidnunc

The English have gone bonkers.


22 posted on 04/03/2005 6:03:54 PM PDT by Rocky
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To: Gay State Conservative
Gay State Conservative wrote: How does this "therapy" measure up to standard threatments in double-blind,placebo controlled research studies.

How would one even set up such a study?

What could one use as a placebo in a study involving New Age channelling?

23 posted on 04/03/2005 6:15:51 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc

I love the word "nitwittery."


24 posted on 04/03/2005 7:10:19 PM PDT by MNnice
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To: muir_redwoods

In 1984, I was flying out to LA to see the summer Olympics. Also on the plane was a reiki practitioner who was being brought in to work on the athletes. Several people on the plane, including myself, were taking turns getting "treated". My neck and shoulders were stiff, so I figured, what the heck. Whatever he did worked for about an hour, until the time my cousin snuck up behind me at the airport and said "BOO". I jumped, my muscles seized up again and the relief I felt was gone.


25 posted on 04/03/2005 7:18:53 PM PDT by toothfairy86
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To: quidnunc
What could one use as a placebo in a study involving New Age channelling?

Oh man you owe me a new keyboard now. Best line I've seen on FR in a month............

26 posted on 04/03/2005 8:29:49 PM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: quidnunc; Uncle Fud; toothfairy86; MNnice; Rocky; Gay State Conservative; peyton randolph; tet68; ..

Yeah, it's such a bummer that none of these new age treatments hold up under mean old right-brain western-minded double-blind testing. Anecdotal evidence must be taken with a 21/2 lb bag of salt. You can always find someone who swears that this or that mushroom cured their (fill in blank here) but under the hard-nose glare of scientific analyses these methods all seem to crumble.

Don't get me wrong, here. Establishment medicine has been doing a lousy job on our killer degenerative diseases. But if some alternative treatment is to qualify in by book then it has to actually W-O-R-K.

I do recall a recent episode of John Stoessels' 20/20 wherein he examines these therapies without the rose-tinted lenses of the faithful. A common ingredient in these therapies that kept the customers coming back was their caring, hands-on, bedside manner approach. One example that sticks in my mind was the infertile couple who kept going to this Maori tribal faith healer after the wife got tired of being treated like a piece of meat by the fertility docs ("get in the stirrups"). The bone-shaker dude had no luck either, but, heavens! He sure helped her work out her tension.

It has been observed often enough that socialized medicine will to great lenghts to treat trifles, but when one gets really sick, its tough noogies.


27 posted on 04/04/2005 1:03:29 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: sinanju

Your wandering off of the topic was entertaining but to return to it for the purposes of discussion I will ask you, upon what direct experience do you denigrate Reiki?


28 posted on 04/04/2005 2:35:00 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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To: sinanju
I note the US Army and Navy hospitals don't have a Chiropractic department...
29 posted on 04/04/2005 6:15:57 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
IMO chiropractors are fine as long as one considers them as expert physical therapists and no more. My wife has a hereditary hip problem, the orthopedic surgeons have all told her "nothing we can do", and chiropractic every couple of weeks has helped her no end.

None of the DC's she has ever seen has ever tried the old snow job of how manipulating the spine can cure all sorts of unrelated ailments. I suspect that may no longer be a part of their training.

30 posted on 04/04/2005 6:54:52 AM PDT by Uncle Fud
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To: Uncle Fud

There are two kinds of Quackopractors. Some are "straight" using only the techniques developed in Davenport, Iowa by the founder of the "science." Others will do anything for money. All of them belong to a society of manipulators that award degrees based on income.


31 posted on 04/04/2005 7:15:38 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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