[Mark in the Old South]

I am not going to bother with much of you post I will let it speak for itself. But on the following:

Re: "Like God could not pick his own leaders and guide the "church" himself.. <<- rhetorical question..
He did in the beginning, and still does.. I think.."

God did pick the leader of his Church. It was Peter and it is clear the other apostles and disciples considered him so. It is in all four Gospels, Acts and even in some of Paul's letters. Remember two of the Gospels were written by a Apostle so if there was any question among them it might have shown itself.

You are correct God continues to guide the Church. The Holy Ghost will be in full force when the conclave meets to select a new Pope. The problem most have is they assume God always picks a saintly man but sometimes it is the weakness of a man that is selected. The failures of man moves us in ways we can not fully understand but God does.

The rest of your post I will leave alone.

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[ I am not going to bother with much of your post I will let it speak for itself. ]

I agree, doing that with you, myself..
You are specifically and exactly where your supposed to be..
I don't have a problem with that..
Actually I was posting for lurkers anyway..
Two monologues does not a conversation make..