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Border Patrol Complains That Volunteers Are Tripping Sensors Used to Detect Illegal Crossers(DRUDGE)
AP ^ | 4/4/05 | Arthur H. Rotstein

Posted on 04/04/2005 12:44:34 PM PDT by Crackingham

Volunteers who have converged on the Mexican border to watch for illegal immigrants are disrupting U.S. Border Patrol operations by unwittingly tripping sensors that alert agents to possible intruders, an agency spokesman complained Monday. Scores of participants in the Minuteman Project began assembling late last week and planned to begin regular patrols on Monday, in an exercise some law enforcement authorities and civil rights groups fear will result in vigilante violence. Many of the volunteers were recruited over the Internet, and some planned to be armed. Over the past few days, they have set off sensors, forcing agents to respond to false alarms, said Supervisory Border Patrol Agent Jose Maheda.

"Every sensor has to be addressed," Maheda said. "It's taken away from our normal operations."

The volunteers planned to start fanning out Monday across 23 miles of the San Pedro Valley to watch the border and report any illegal activity to federal agents. The idea, according to project organizers, is partly to draw attention to problems on the Arizona-Mexico border, considered the most porous stretch of the 2,000-mile southern border. Of the 1.1 million illegal immigrants caught by the Border Patrol last year, 51 percent crossed into the country at the Arizona border.

Jim Coniglio of Tucson, who plans to patrol with other volunteers this week, said residents in some areas of the border have complained of being "overrun routinely" by migrants. "They're feeling insecure," he said.

The Border Patrol opposes the operation. "The possibility for something going drastically wrong is very high," Maheda said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; apanceonfier; apeanut4you; apeasement; apenemy1; apenemyuno; aphitpeice; apos; apropaganda; apsentoftruth; bordersecurity; minutemanproject
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1 posted on 04/04/2005 12:44:35 PM PDT by Crackingham
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To: Crackingham
That's a pretty weak complaint. They're tripping the sensors that tell them how many people they allow to cross the border illegally.
2 posted on 04/04/2005 12:46:30 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh yeah. They pay a lot of attention to those.


3 posted on 04/04/2005 12:47:24 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hey Border Patrol, sthu and do your freakin' job.


4 posted on 04/04/2005 12:47:53 PM PDT by rockabyebaby (If you're not part of the solution, YOU ARE the problem.)
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To: cripplecreek

Is the border patrol vehemently against it, or rather, is it the press


5 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:23 PM PDT by traderrob6 (http://www.exposingtheleft.blogspot.com)
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To: AppyPappy

I wonder how many coyotes and rattlesnakes trip those?


6 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:27 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Michael, is it the movie and books deals you're waiting for, my boy?)
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To: Crackingham
Every sensor has to be addressed," Maheda said. "It's taken away from our normal operations."

LOL! Their normal operations probably included ignoring tripped sensors. Now they can't do that because of media exposure.

7 posted on 04/04/2005 12:48:50 PM PDT by Iron Matron
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To: Crackingham
"Every sensor has to be addressed," Maheda said. "It's taken away from our normal operations."

In other words, "We have to leave our card game go out in the field!"

I know this is an unfair comment, but I just can't get excited about these sensors which don't seem to stop the illegals in the first place.

8 posted on 04/04/2005 12:49:06 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: cripplecreek

Whose problem is that? We're allowed to walk around where ever we want. It's not a military base.


9 posted on 04/04/2005 12:49:08 PM PDT by SteveMcKing
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Well, it's good to see the border patrol actually noticing the sensors being tripped.

It's funny, a couple of hundred VOLUNTEER, LEGAL members of our society goes and tries to make a meaningful impact and they're a nuisance because they tripped some sensors.

Yet, a couple of MILLION ILLEGALS cross the border and 1) they didn't trip the sensors and 2) the border patrol did nothing to stop the MILLIONS.

Looks like they might actually have to go do their job. God forbid.

10 posted on 04/04/2005 12:49:19 PM PDT by mattdono ("Crush the democrats, drive them before you, and hear the lamentations of the scumbags" -Big Arnie)
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So what! If the Border Patrol has been ignoring these remote alarms whenever they've been tripped before by illegal immigrants, they can just continue to ignore them now that they're being tripped by the Minutemen. At least the Minutemen will spot and track these illegals routinely, which hasn't been done before. And they'll hold the feet of the Border Patrol to the fire to make them act on these illegals, finally. What's the problem?


11 posted on 04/04/2005 12:49:42 PM PDT by bowzer313
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To: mattdono

Are these sensors on private property?


12 posted on 04/04/2005 12:50:16 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (Michael, is it the movie and books deals you're waiting for, my boy?)
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To: traderrob6

I think the guys in the field are all for the undocumented agents. It's the higher ups that officially oppose them.


13 posted on 04/04/2005 12:50:24 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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To: Crackingham; HiJinx

Funny that 4000 per day couldn't trip their sensors, but 100 or so "vigilantes" can upset their applecart.


14 posted on 04/04/2005 12:52:38 PM PDT by azhenfud ("He who is always looking up seldom finds others' lost change...")
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To: Crackingham

aaaaawww, and would the BP like some cheese with that whine?

quit moaning and round-em-up!

at least the MM have brought enough attention to the border problems that both GWB & Vicente Fox have placed more "uniforms" on the border! HELLO?


15 posted on 04/04/2005 12:58:28 PM PDT by kellynla (U.S.M.C. 1st Battalion,5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Div. Viet Nam 69&70 Semper Fi)
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To: Sybeck1
I wonder how many coyotes and rattlesnakes trip those?

Actually, about 30 years ago I worked for a company that built airborne night vision equipment. We made a call on US Border Patrol headquarters to show how our stuff could help them. Even then they estimated about 3 million illegals were entering each year. But they had no money to buy our equipment because they had spent their entire hardware budget on leftover seismic sensors built for the Ho Chi Minh trail. Yeah, they knew all about coyotes (4 legged) and armadillos along that stretch of border. So many alarms the system was completely swamped.

16 posted on 04/04/2005 1:00:05 PM PDT by 19th LA Inf
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To: Crackingham
Sensors Used to Detect Illegal Crossers

Kinda like the car alarm screaming outside right now...

USELESS!

17 posted on 04/04/2005 1:01:00 PM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (If Islam is a religion of peace, they should fire their P.R. guy!)
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"Every sensor has to be addressed," Maheda said. "It's taken away from our normal operations."

"Every sensor wakes us up. It's interrupted our normal naptime".

18 posted on 04/04/2005 1:04:14 PM PDT by bigbob (2)
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To: Crackingham

This Maheda comes across poorly. He sounds just like the left wingers warning about all kinds of ridiculous stuff when he states, "The possibility for something going drastically wrong is very high,".


19 posted on 04/04/2005 1:04:39 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1366853/)
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To: Crackingham

Is Maheda a union rep?


20 posted on 04/04/2005 1:07:11 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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