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To: Kozak
In V fib arrest, the save rate is based on the speed of defibrillation, CPR doesn't make a difference to ultimate outcome. If defib isn't done within a few minutes it is almost always a fatal outcome.

I'm not a medical professional, or even much of an observer, so will defer to your expertise.

I saw a woman die on the 16th green once, probably for the very reason you describe. No defib at the golf course, and EMS was 15-20 minutes away. I don't think airports have a legal duty to have working defibrillators, but could be wrong on that point. Requirements for fire supression have a statutory basis, building codes, etc.

20 posted on 04/05/2005 6:28:30 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

My friend Bill had a heart attack on the 2nd tee. It was terrible, all day long it was "hit the ball, drag Bill; Hit the ball, drag Bill".


34 posted on 04/05/2005 6:50:29 AM PDT by Lokibob (All typos and spelling errors are mine and copyrighted!!!!)
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To: Cboldt
AED's in public places like airports can be real life savers. Rapid defibrilation is the only thing thats been shown to make a difference in these cardiac arrests. This really highlights the need to have a solid QA, maintenance program in place. I notice that one of the manufacturers is now doing direct marketing on TV to the public. same thing will apply here. Better check the pads and batteries on the recommended maintenance schedule....
45 posted on 04/05/2005 7:03:48 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Cboldt
I don't think airports have a legal duty to have working defibrillators,

I think the issue is that they may not be required, but if a facility has them, they need to maintain them.

52 posted on 04/05/2005 7:07:33 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Cboldt

"I don't think airports have a legal duty to have working defibrillators, but could be wrong on that point."

An interesting question. I don't know the answer, but I do know a person with a rhythm issue who for several years would only fly one particular airline bcse it publicized the fact that all its planes had defibrillators. I suspect that if his heart had stopped on one of that airline's planes and the defibrillator's batteries turned out to be dead, his family would've had a viable lawsuit.


176 posted on 04/05/2005 12:20:12 PM PDT by MonaMars
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