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Beware unplanned (Microsoft) SP2 downloads on April 12
informationweek (note: blog posting) ^ | 04/06/2005 | John Foley

Posted on 04/06/2005 6:57:37 AM PDT by bedolido

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To: bedolido

How can a home user stop Microsoft Update from downloading SP2? I have dialup and it would take hours to download. I don't want it and so far have been able to select "Custom Update" to bypass it. I have friends who have had their PCs crash because of it. Help!


21 posted on 04/06/2005 7:40:21 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Salo

If the firewall is the only problem you can turn it off and use something else.

I personally love Zonealarm and think it has the best user interface of any program in existence. I can't think of any program of any kind that takes such an esoteric problem and makes sense of it. The only thing missing is an easy way to see beneath the covers, so to speak.

But if you have reason not to trust some of the programs installed on your machine, it's great.

However, the XP SP2 firewall is pretty bulletproof, and combined with the MS spyware blocker, it solves a bunch of problems. Add AVG and you have a clean system for not much money.


22 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:12 AM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

No, I didn't have to tweak anything. I didn't notice any difference (for better or for worse).

I'm not on a network.


23 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:33 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: js1138

What is Zonealarm?


24 posted on 04/06/2005 7:43:06 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: bedolido

I'm no computer whiz, but I've restored my system a few times. All I did was go to "Start" then "Accessories" then "System Tools" and finally "System Restore." I clicked on that and it walked me through it. This was already on my PC, nothing I added to it.


25 posted on 04/06/2005 7:44:59 AM PDT by KJC1
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

How do you know that XP AntiSpy turns off all of the methods by which Windows communicates, or phones home, with Microsoft? It's sort of like ordering decaf coffee at a restaurant: how can you know?


26 posted on 04/06/2005 7:45:23 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: bedolido
Can anyone tell me how to identify if SP2 is installed by viewing the browser string? I'm seeing "SV1" in IE browser strings lately. Anyone know what that signifies?
27 posted on 04/06/2005 7:47:35 AM PDT by yellowhammer
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To: bedolido

To those who are having problems installing SP2

1. Download SP2
2. Turn off all of the junk in your system tray that you don't need.
3. Turn off IM applications.
4. Turn off the virus checker
5. Install SP2.
6. Restart the computer.
7. Turn the virus checker back on.

It's a good idea to run your virus checker and Ad-aware before installing SP2 as well. The main reason for problems installing SP2 is all of the crap running in the background.

I have installed SP2 on over 100 computers and have had no problems yet. My students have had all sorts of difficulties and in each case, we found adware/malware and virus programs plus IM applications running. After turning that stuff off, we had no problems.


28 posted on 04/06/2005 7:48:22 AM PDT by Poser (Joining Belly Girl in the Pajamahadeen)
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To: Piranha

You Never know for sure, but it stops a lot of stuff. I've seen machines with spyware blaster, spybot and adaware get zapped.

The real reason spyware happens is that people authorize its installation. Mostly kids using Kaaza or something, say yes to installation. No program can protect you from suicide.

XP has become pretty tight in requiring you to authorize program installation, but it can't protect you from stupidity.


29 posted on 04/06/2005 7:53:25 AM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Piranha

The BEST firewall around!


30 posted on 04/06/2005 7:53:48 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (We will always remember.We will always be proud.We will always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: Piranha

http://www.zonelabs.com/store/content/company/products/znalm/freeDownload.jsp


31 posted on 04/06/2005 7:54:35 AM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Poser

Thanks for the info! That must be it, my kids have IM (drives me crazy!)


32 posted on 04/06/2005 7:55:26 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (We will always remember.We will always be proud.We will always be prepared, so we may always be free)
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To: js1138

Since you seem to know a lot (at least you know a lot more than I do!), maybe you can help me.

I have everything on my computer: Symantec anti-virus, firewall, ad-aware, Microsoft anti-spyware, Spydoc (I forget the name, and I'm not on my computer), and even more. I actually run them from time to time.

A few times each week I get an email that informs me that my message to someone (always random strangers -- once it was someone whose name was familiar to me) was not accepted because it contained a virus.

Is this really being sent from my computer, or does someone use my email address to shoot off viruses from another location?


33 posted on 04/06/2005 7:58:14 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: js1138

Thanks. I took the test on my daughter's computer (which I'm using now), and it found 14 pieces of spyware.


34 posted on 04/06/2005 8:01:36 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Piranha

Email viruses are an interesting problem.

The most likely reason for having emails rejected is that you are sending Office documents or zip files as attachments. Some email systems reject all attachments ans some reject attachments with certain filename extensions.

The latest trick is embedding viruses in images, particularly jpgs. I suspect that some virus scanners are incorrectly tagging some images as viruses, because I have seen this happen when I'm pretty sure the image is clean.

I anyone is buying a new machine, I'd recommend giving a look at the AMD 64 CPU. The price is down to really low levels, and these chips are immune to many common virus exploits.


35 posted on 04/06/2005 8:12:09 AM PDT by js1138 (There are 10 kinds of people: those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: js1138

I just tested it with Microsoft's spyware remover, and it found ZERO pieces of spyware. I'm doing ad-aware now.


36 posted on 04/06/2005 8:15:22 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: bedolido

All your 'puters are belong to us.


37 posted on 04/06/2005 8:16:27 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: js1138

Yes, but...

I'm not sending email to these people, to my knowledge. The first I know of their existence (if they really do exist) is when I get an email purporting to return to me an email that I supposedly sent.

Oh, well, it doesn't seem to slow down my computer, anyway, and my systems can't find it. Out of sight, out of mind, right?


38 posted on 04/06/2005 8:16:58 AM PDT by Piranha
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I recommend the use of XP AntiSpy.

Thanks for the link - I'll be checking this out later!

39 posted on 04/06/2005 8:18:09 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Psalm 73)
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To: Piranha

Yikes. Ad-aware found 14 pieces of spyware (the same number as the Zone thing). I wonder why Microsoft found zero. I'm removing them now.


40 posted on 04/06/2005 8:20:33 AM PDT by Piranha
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