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Border vigil rescues emaciated alien (Minutemen rescue illegal immigrant)
Insight/Wash Times ^ | Ap 6 05 | Jerry Seper

Posted on 04/06/2005 7:32:35 PM PDT by churchillbuff

PALOMINAS, Ariz. -- Minuteman Project volunteers, during limited weekend patrols along the U.S.-Mexico border here, rescued a tired and thirsty Mexican who had become separated from a group trying to illegally enter the United States.

The volunteers, who formally begin extensive patrols along a 20-mile section of the border today to protest Bush administration immigration-enforcement policies, found the man on land owned by Miracle Valley Bible College, where the Minuteman organization has set up a command post.

The unidentified man was described as dehydrated and emaciated. He was turned over by volunteers to U.S. Border Patrol officials and later was returned to Mexico.

It was one of two weekend encounters by Minuteman volunteers with illegal aliens, neither of which resulted in the violent confrontation predicted by some civil liberties and human rights organizations.

In a separate incident, the volunteers spotted 18 illegal aliens entering the United States here and called the Border Patrol, which responded in minutes and took the aliens into custody.

Ray Ybarra, spokesman for the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) in Arizona, said there had been no incidents of violence or suspected abuse of the aliens during limited patrols by the volunteers Saturday and yesterday.

Mr. Ybarra, who manned a seven-person ACLU observation site on the border south of Bisbee -- within shouting distance of two Minuteman patrol posts -- said "everything was going very well."

"We're here to protect the civil rights of everyone involved and, so far, everything has gone very nicely," he told The Washington Times during a late-night interview on the U.S.-Mexico border east of Naco, which is separated by a barbed-wire fence that has been cut in numerous spots.

Mexican humanitarian groups, who patrolled their side of the border late into the night, told The Times several people had been spotted huddled in the desert south of the U.S. border -- apparently halted by the presence of the Minuteman volunteers.

Volunteers working a patrol post west of the San Pedro River, south of here, confirmed yesterday that they spotted two separate groups of aliens, totaling about 25 people, heading north who turned back when they saw the Minuteman patrols.

The volunteers, some of whom are armed, have been accused by some civil rights groups and other immigration activists of being racists looking for an excuse to confront illegal aliens.

Border Patrol officials have said the presence of armed volunteers on the border make an already dangerous situation worse, although several field agents said they welcomed them -- as long as they operate within the law.

Minuteman organizers James T. Gilchrist, a retired California certified public accountant, and Chris Simcox, publisher of the Tombstone, Ariz., Tumbleweed, said the volunteers have been warned against any confrontation.

Mr. Gilchrist added that he personally will help prosecute anyone who abuses the aliens or violates their civil rights.

"We mean business, and I assure you we will cooperate fully with federal, state and local law enforcement to identify and prosecute any troublemakers," Mr. Gilchrist said. "We have conducted extensive background investigations and have eliminated a lot of people. We are confident that those who are here to participate are doing so for the very best reasons."

He said the Minuteman Project was "not a call to arms, but a call to voices seeking a peaceful and respectable resolve to the chaotic neglect by members of our local, state and federal governments charged with applying U.S. immigration law."

The targeted patrol areas are the most popular routes into the United States for illegal aliens entering from Mexico. More than 40 percent of the 1.15 million aliens apprehended last year by the Border Patrol were caught in this area.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Arizona
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1 posted on 04/06/2005 7:32:36 PM PDT by churchillbuff
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To: KylaStarr; Cindy; StillProud2BeFree; nw_arizona_granny; Velveeta; Dolphy; appalachian_dweller; ...

Minutemen Bump!


2 posted on 04/06/2005 7:35:21 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: churchillbuff

I'm just glad the minutemen are showing a little "humbility". LOL

Sorry, tonights edition of the DUmmie FUnnies is chock full of word salad gems I just can't wait to use.


3 posted on 04/06/2005 7:35:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm apathetic but really don't care.)
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The lead for this story is a bit old, as this happened on Saturday. And the illegal was a Honduran man. But that's okay, it still makes good copy. Score one for the good guys.

4 posted on 04/06/2005 7:40:08 PM PDT by HiJinx (Report Illegals ~ 1-877-USBP-HELP (872-7435))
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To: churchillbuff

IDEA: What if somebody were to take this man and a hundred other illegals just like him and drive them right straight to the White House and let them out on Pennsylania Avenue at high noon with full press coverage. Better yet, get some Congress critters to fork up some tour passes to the White House beforehand and give each illegal a WH tour pass when the leave the truck and point them to the White House as a place they can get some food, water and rest. Then let W have a little talk with Fox.

COMMENTS?


5 posted on 04/06/2005 7:40:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: churchillbuff

That's funny. I saw the words "emaciate alien" and immediately thought of James Carvile.


6 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:03 PM PDT by Paul Atreides (Hillary, Nancy, and Barbara: Proof that there are strong men in the Democrat Party)
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To: churchillbuff

This must be really pissin' the ACLU off. You know they were itching for a confrontation. I was worried they would stage something. Glad to see this is going well. We have 1700 acres along the Rio Grande in Texas and it is a frikken superhighway for illegals. We have to lock everything in cargo containers to keep it from walking off. We turn on two big street lights and randomly fire toward the border whenever we are staying overnight at the ranch. Firepower is the international language.


7 posted on 04/06/2005 7:42:25 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: WorkingClassFilth

i like it. busloads. dozens of busloads


8 posted on 04/06/2005 7:48:09 PM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: HiJinx; churchillbuff

The ACLU must have been munching on some sour grapes over this.

Everything sounds like it's going well.


9 posted on 04/06/2005 7:48:59 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (Free Mexico!)
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To: WilliamWallace1999

We've been visiting our son and his family at Laughlin in Del Rio off and on since December. Driving there from the airport in San Antonio, I see all the land, and hunting ranches on either side of 90, and have wondered about what kind of security must be required to maintain those places. Although, there's so much cactus there, I woudn't want to walk across that land.


10 posted on 04/06/2005 7:50:00 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

pure genius


11 posted on 04/06/2005 8:00:19 PM PDT by antiUNcitizen
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To: WorkingClassFilth
IDEA: What if somebody were to take this man and a hundred other illegals just like him and drive them right straight to the White House...

or we could have the good folks in Brisbee drive them there for us, like this quote from one of the resisdents "I had a Salvadoran work for me for six months, and it's not uncommon for people here to drive a migrant north in their car rather than hand them over to the U.S. Border Patrol," said cafe owner Charles Lewis. from this posting:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1378613/posts

12 posted on 04/06/2005 8:01:07 PM PDT by texaspirate (It's not nice to fool mother nature.)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

I think Laura should have to cook dinner for a few hundred of them every night at the ranch. She and the girls could pick up the trash they leave, and GWB could personally pay for their medical care and their schooling and their welfare funds. They would get sick of it REAL quick, just like American citizens are sick of it.


13 posted on 04/06/2005 8:01:50 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: antiUNcitizen

Maybe the right folks will see this, or pass it on...


14 posted on 04/06/2005 8:04:42 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: texaspirate

I've been to Bisbee and it is, indeed, San Francisco without the ocean air to take away the stench of leftism. Because Bisbee has a quaint appearance and it's economy is gone, it has been taken over by pinko artists and assorted usual suspects. I can just picture them helping illegals by driving them wherever they want to go in their Volvos and Subarus. Fight the power, Man! Right on brother!


15 posted on 04/06/2005 8:09:36 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch

I know that stretch of highway well. We are about an hour on down the road from there near Langtry. The record take is 35 illegals in our barn. We have an outdoor refrigerator that we leave beer in. It is wired into the Border Patrol office in Comstock. When they open the door, it sets off an alarm. The beer keeps 'em around long enough for the troops to arrive. They set up an ambush about half a mile away at the highway crossing. They have yet figured out what keeps getting 'em caught, so they keep on coming. We find navigation markers and trash all over the ranch after full moon nights.


Once I forgot to turn off the alarm and had to give all my buddies in "La Migre" a handfull of Macanudos to make up for the false alarm.


16 posted on 04/06/2005 8:11:24 PM PDT by WilliamWallace1999
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To: janetgreen
Knock off the anti-Bush claptrap. He is a great man, and we are lucky to have him leading this country.

President Bush knows that illegal immigrants keep wages low. This helps small businessmen, and weakens the American labor movement, most of whose members are Dems.

17 posted on 04/06/2005 8:23:51 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: WorkingClassFilth

All government employees need this kind of supervision all the time.
Let's expand the Minutemen into Civilian Review Boards for every government agency.


18 posted on 04/06/2005 8:24:38 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: WorkingClassFilth
COMMENTS?

I am totally against this appalling proposal. It shows rank disrespect for President Bush.

Come on guys, the comments here are utterly silly. You guys are starting to sound like Hillary.

Time to sober up, and realize that no matter what reservations we have about President Bush, he is still one of the five best presidents in US History.

19 posted on 04/06/2005 8:29:06 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: Teplukin
President Bush knows that illegal immigrants keep wages low. This helps small businessmen, and weakens the American labor movement, most of whose members are Dems.

'Vote GOP - keep wages low'. A winning campaign slogan.

That kind of thinking gives us all a bad name.

20 posted on 04/06/2005 8:34:20 PM PDT by skeeter ("What's to talk about? It's illegal." S Bono)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
We have an outdoor refrigerator that we leave beer in. It is wired into the Border Patrol office in Comstock. When they open the door, it sets off an alarm. ....... They have yet figured out what keeps getting 'em caught, so they keep on coming.

Why, that sounds like entrapment! Shame on you. :oD(at least, that's what a liberal judge might call it, LOL! Great idea! Maybe you could market the idea somehow. :-D

We went to Langtry -- went to see Judge Roy's place. Also tried to find a place to eat (not much up there, is there LOL) and ate at the gas station up at the corner.

I take that back about not much being up there -- lots of great scenery and photographic possibilites.

21 posted on 04/06/2005 8:36:24 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: Teplukin

I agree that we are lucky to have Mr. Bush instead of Effington. However, Mr. Bush is failing - BIG TIME - to provide border security and act in the best interests of the United States when he continues to allow the porus state of our borders. The failure in Washington (and the WH) is deliberate and absolutely disgusting. We are being drowned with illegals. Have you read the stats? Sorry, friend, but Mr. Bush needs his feet held to the fire on the obscene state of affairs at the border and you are just as wrong on this issue as he is.


22 posted on 04/06/2005 8:36:39 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: WorkingClassFilth

The border has been unsafe for over 100 years. And we ought to simply wise up and understand that a fence (of large proportions) is the only way to start to fix this problem. Its silly to just look at the border and say that a small number of border cops can manage this. Its like a joke. We need to stand up and make this work.


24 posted on 04/06/2005 8:40:50 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: pepsionice

I agree. The communists have never had a problem with providing security along thousands of miles of their borders so I see little reason why it can't be done here. What needs to happen is for the spell of votes/contributions for 'R' politicians needs to be broken by actions like the Minutemen because we sure as hell aren't going to see the issue championed by the likes of the MSM or the at-large left.


25 posted on 04/06/2005 8:45:50 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Let's pull the feeding tube of the American left - Defund NPR/PBS/CBP and the LSC)
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To: Teplukin

We'll have to agree to disagree. I don't agree with anything you said, and there's nothing you can say to change my mind about this President or many of his policies.


26 posted on 04/06/2005 8:48:24 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: churchillbuff
"The Minutemen" seems to be working - why couldn't it become a buddy system with the Border Patrol? We have thousands of miles of border - why not train and deputize citizens for eyes-on - with border patrol ready to go in any direction on call...this seems to be working.

And why shouldn't citizens pitch in a help with the problem, rather than just yell and point fingers?

Back in World War 11, citizens pitched in to help in many ways, including manning watchtowers...

27 posted on 04/06/2005 8:49:02 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Teplukin
AMEN! dammit

with friends like some of these posters...

Sure glad my friends and family aren't high and mighty so-perfect people that they write me off the minute I do - or don't do - everything their way

28 posted on 04/06/2005 8:54:25 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Teplukin

"This helps small businessmen, and weakens the American labor movement, most of whose members are Dems."

Perhaps, if some of us wern't trying to screw the American worker, more of them would vote our way.
Many of these workers are by nature conservative. If certain republicans would stop attacking them we would gain converts.


29 posted on 04/06/2005 8:57:46 PM PDT by rogator
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To: WorkingClassFilth
The communists have never had a problem with providing security along thousands of miles of their borders

LOL

Yeah, they had to watch out for all those millions desperate to get into Russia to live!

Thanks for the laugh

30 posted on 04/06/2005 8:58:15 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: churchillbuff

So the minutemen report some illegals ..los migras catches them and releases them back over the border where they rest
get charged up and cross over again and again until they are finally successfull...

At least they try..to stop the invasion


31 posted on 04/06/2005 8:58:30 PM PDT by joesnuffy (The generation that survived the depression and won WW2 proved poverty does not cause crime)
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To: janetgreen
there's nothing you can say to change my mind about this President or many of his policies.

that's the nature of a closed mind, no?

32 posted on 04/06/2005 8:59:26 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Badray; ancient_geezer

Gotta love those CPA's.....retraining to take care of our borders!


33 posted on 04/06/2005 9:01:19 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: infidel44
I haven't seen any really bad cactus in TX. Now, you take AZ, they have got that "jumping cactus", and others, which you REALLY don't want to get close to.

Jumping cactus? YIKES!

The stuff I've seen there looks a little bit like the prickly pear cactus we have here -- only MUCH bigger.

34 posted on 04/06/2005 9:02:16 PM PDT by Tuscaloosa Goldfinch (Thank goodness "Terayza" is not first lady.)
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To: joesnuffy
So the minutemen report some illegals ..los migras catches them and releases them back over the border where they rest get charged up and cross over again and again until they are finally successfull... At least they try..to stop the invasion

and you would do what with them? Put them in jail at our expense? Or just shoot 'em all - But you'll need to get permission from the ACLU first.

I am a loss to understand why more fingers aren't being pointed at - and something done about - the ACLU. They are the ones who have caused the most hand-tying of the law regarding what can be done to these illegals.

35 posted on 04/06/2005 9:05:59 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: maine-iac7
that's the nature of a closed mind, no?

No, that's the nature of a disgusted ex-Republican who now has a very open mind.

36 posted on 04/06/2005 9:08:05 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: Conservative Goddess

Gotta love those CPA's.....retraining to take care of our borders!

Don't fergit them lawyers, being rehabed too!!!

"Mr. Ybarra, who manned a seven-person ACLU observation site on the border south of Bisbee"

Always figured they were at their best sitting out in the middle of nowhere conning jackrabbits, instead of honest folks.

37 posted on 04/06/2005 9:12:11 PM PDT by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: WilliamWallace1999
We turn on two big street lights and randomly fire toward the border whenever we are staying overnight at the ranch. Firepower is the international language.

You haven't been warned or arrested for violating the 'rights' of illegals?

I personally think everyone should be able to defend their property any way they see fit. Those who trespass only get what they deserve.
38 posted on 04/06/2005 9:18:05 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: Teplukin

As Reagan said, history will tell. But if he doesn't do something about the illegal invasion, his other successes will be marred by this one big failure.


39 posted on 04/06/2005 9:24:04 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Bush talks about jobs Americans won't do - one we will do is (undocumented) U.S. Border Patrol Agent)
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To: ancient_geezer

WATCH IT!!! Lawyering is gonna be my new 'profession'.....seems to have a lot in common with the worlds oldest. ---Hat tip to The Gipper, RIP


40 posted on 04/06/2005 9:48:14 PM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Veritas vos Liberabit, in Vino, Veritas....QED, Vino vos Liberabit)
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To: maine-iac7; Teplukin

you two have your opinion on that and Teddy R and many other modern Americans have this opinion:

"To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."


"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole. Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile. To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star", 149 May 7, 1918


41 posted on 04/07/2005 7:29:58 AM PDT by sdpatriot (remember waco and ruby ridge)
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To: HiJinx; churchillbuff

Like the highly trained professional soldiers they are, these guys are SAVING lives...


42 posted on 04/07/2005 11:36:20 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you, Terri, and all who truly loved you and tried to help you...God help the U.S.A)
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To: Teplukin

I agree with you it doesn't do much good to trash the President personally.

But I have a sense of betrayal in the way he has commented on illegal immigration: "Our immigration laws are outdated." (State of the Union) and attacking the minuteman as "irrational vigilantes" before they had done ANYTHING.

I campaigned for George W. Bush, I supported him, I took hits on his behalf and I have BELIEVED in him. (And, so have minutemen volunteers.) I respect him as President but I must be honest about my mixed feelings at this point. He's done nothing to soften the betrayal.


43 posted on 04/07/2005 11:41:49 AM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you, Terri, and all who truly loved you and tried to help you...God help the U.S.A)
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To: Tuscaloosa Goldfinch
Although, there's so much cactus there, I woudn't want to walk across that land.

Good point. A coworker has Spanish Dagger (Yucca) on her property in Ash Canyon, and her side yard is one of the trails used for illegals headed north. She found bloody bandages one morning, somebody had walked right into the leaves of a Spanish Dagger.


44 posted on 04/07/2005 12:05:18 PM PDT by HiJinx (Report Illegals ~ 1-877-USBP-HELP (872-7435))
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To: La Enchiladita

THis is not a betrayal. This is a way of solidifying Republican hold on the Hispanic vote, as well as securing for employers a stready stream of low wage labor.

Another way to thinnk of this is to consider that America is a big country, we can accomodate lots of new folks. From what I understand, there is lots of empty space out West, ready to be filled with houses and highways. And these immigrants are just the folks to do it.


45 posted on 04/07/2005 4:13:02 PM PDT by Teplukin
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To: churchillbuff

Thank God the minute man found him before Judge Greer did, and he was fed, hydrated and returned to Mexico before Greer could order that he be given no food or water.


46 posted on 04/07/2005 4:18:43 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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bttt


47 posted on 04/07/2005 4:25:37 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: Conservative Goddess

May the long journey of returning lawyers and lawering to the position of respect it never had and never merited, begin with you


48 posted on 04/07/2005 4:28:16 PM PDT by F.J. Mitchell (Have the Democrats,our RINOs and their MSM ever met a skunk too stinking to snuggle up to?)
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To: Teplukin

Well, that explains it! You're a Connecticut resident! The problem is abstract for you. Out West, where you believe there is so much room, it's getting mighty crowded. And our state budgets are going bust, drained to provide social services, healthcare and education for illegals and their kids. I live with the problems of illegal immigration every day. In addition to the economic drain, there is an anti-American cultural impact.

But then ... your profile states you're "not as informed as other FReepers." Maybe you want to stay that way, because if you read through the immigration threads you will learn a lot about why this is a major crisis in our country.

It's easy for you to believe what you like about immigration if you don't live in one of the heavily affected states and you don't care to become informed. Sean Hannity, a big fan of the President, lives in New Jersey and he expresses the need to address illegal immigration every day.

For me, it is principle over party and principle over person. For you, it is the opposite.


49 posted on 04/07/2005 4:36:40 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (God bless you, Terri, and all who truly loved you and tried to help you...God help the U.S.A)
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To: La Enchiladita
First of all, thank you for being civil. Far too many Western Freepers have the bad manners (Arizona is especially bad). It is nice to know that courtesy is not dead west of the Hudson River.

I don't claim to know the issue very well. But I do trust President Bush implicitly to do what is best for our political party. Beyond that, I think that those who rail against immigration are the mirror image of leftists who rail against globalization. They want to keep the world out, and preserve their lovely world of high wages & ethnic homogeneity.

President Bush has made clear that he is having none of that!

I really think you should learn to trust President Bush as you trusted him when we went to war in Iraq. Remember, naysayers were doubting him then, and he proved them wrong!
50 posted on 04/07/2005 5:34:01 PM PDT by Teplukin
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