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Explosive AdScam testimony revealed
CP ^ | April 7, 2005 | Brian Daly

Posted on 04/07/2005 12:30:57 PM PDT by headsonpikes

Top federal Liberal officials forced an ad executive to secretly divert more than $1 million to the party's Quebec wing in exchange for sponsorship contracts, the executive told the Gomery inquiry in politically explosive testimony that had been kept under wraps by a publication ban that was finally lifted Thursday.

The allegations of a longstanding corruption could give the opposition

(Excerpt) Read more at cnews.canoe.ca ...


TOPICS: Canada; Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: adscam; canada; corruption; liberals; sponsorshipscandal; theft
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Now we'll see how the chips fall ...
1 posted on 04/07/2005 12:30:58 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Clive; NorthOf45; -YYZ-; albertabound; quidnunc


2 posted on 04/07/2005 12:32:02 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes

Now we get to see what kind of fireworks this will generate north of the border.


3 posted on 04/07/2005 12:32:41 PM PDT by Crazieman (UESR: Union of European Socialist Republics)
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To: headsonpikes
Now we'll see how the chips fall ...

The Gomery inquiry panel will be going to jail.

4 posted on 04/07/2005 12:35:20 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Lefties learned from cointelpro.)
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To: headsonpikes

The Mods must like you. My posts on this subject keep getting moved to Foreign Affairs.


5 posted on 04/07/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: All

Here's a link to our South of the 49th Hero!

http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/mt/


6 posted on 04/07/2005 12:37:49 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: fanfan

After 4 years and 20,000+ replies, I'm allowed a little fumbling on my first posts, I guess. ;^)


7 posted on 04/07/2005 12:40:30 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes

So, will the Conservative Party force an election?


8 posted on 04/07/2005 12:41:37 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative
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To: headsonpikes
LOL. No offence. It's just that this is 'breaking news', and I don't understand why they don't leave it in breaking.

Oh well. It's not my site. :-)

9 posted on 04/07/2005 12:43:42 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Harper wants to make sure Canadians have time to understand everything, so I think he'll hold off for a bit.

I am amazed at how many Canadians go through life with their heads in the sand....It'll take time to get through to them.

10 posted on 04/07/2005 12:46:03 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: Navy Patriot
The Gomery inquiry panel will be going to jail.

LOL! Not this time.

Even out here in the wilderness, I can hear the snapping of Liberal backbones in Ottawa as their collective crimes against Canada come back, revealed, to crush them.

No mercy to these Liberal cannibals!

Heads On Pikes!

11 posted on 04/07/2005 12:47:16 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: fanfan
Harper wants to make sure Canadians have time to understand everything, so I think he'll hold off for a bit.

I think Harper just needs time to build up an election war chest.

12 posted on 04/07/2005 12:50:52 PM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: fanfan

It's only breaking news in Canada, I guess.

It's old news stateside. ;^)


13 posted on 04/07/2005 12:50:55 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes

Did you see Anne McLellan implode in Question period today? I didn't know pigs could squeal like that!


14 posted on 04/07/2005 12:55:54 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: doc30
I think Harper just needs time to build up an election war chest.

The Conservative Party was on the phone to my 89 year old mother last week drumming up money for the coming election.

If an election is called, Harper will have no trouble raising serious millions in short order.

The Bay Street $$$ boys are very familiar with the smell of fear and blood. Liberal blood in the water can only be a good thing. ;^)

15 posted on 04/07/2005 12:57:11 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: doc30
From what I understand, our war chest is OK, and it's only going to get better....who would donate to the Liberals now?

Harper made a statement the other day that he wouldn't go to the polls until Canadians have enough time to understand the depth and breadth of the corruption.

16 posted on 04/07/2005 12:59:14 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

No - I'll have to watch CBC tonight. ;^)

Don't rag on me about that - CBC's the only channel we receive out my way, without a satellite dish. It keeps my viewing hours down, I can tell you!


17 posted on 04/07/2005 12:59:57 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes

Eeeeewwwww. Just CBC? Poor you!


18 posted on 04/07/2005 1:01:21 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan
Eeeeewwwww. Just CBC? Poor you!

LOL!! I have satellite internet, my extensive library, and my eager bride - all set in a staggeringly beautiful mountain valley in B.C.

Poor me, indeed!

19 posted on 04/07/2005 1:05:52 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: headsonpikes
No mercy to these Liberal cannibals!

May what you say come to pass.

20 posted on 04/07/2005 1:07:45 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Lefties learned from cointelpro.)
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To: headsonpikes

I thought the headline said "Abscam" and it reminded me of growing up in Philly back in the day. Though I can't exactly remember what it was other than some grainy videos of arabs taking bribes. help from a philly freeper??????


21 posted on 04/07/2005 1:08:29 PM PDT by freedom moose (has de cultivar el que sembres)
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To: headsonpikes
Poor me, indeed!

I take it back. Sounds like heaven!

22 posted on 04/07/2005 1:11:12 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: headsonpikes; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; coteblanche; Ryle; albertabound; mitchbert; ...
This may force Harper's hand.

He doesn't want to force an election yet as he believes that the Conservatives are not ready.

But if he fails to call the government to account on this one, he can be seen to be acquiescing in the misconduct and pusillanimous about going to the electors.

His party has to stand up and be counted and let the chips fall where they may.

If the Bloc and the NDP, who also are not ready for an early electio, are confident that the Tories won't force a non-confidence vote then they are in a golden position to undermine the Tories by voting against the government and letting the Tories be seen to be supporting a corrupt regime.

23 posted on 04/07/2005 2:07:41 PM PDT by Clive
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To: fanfan

What did she say? How useless was she?


24 posted on 04/07/2005 2:19:28 PM PDT by bob_esb
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To: bob_esb
The liberal tack seems to be established...they are saying that the evidence given under oath in the Gomery hearing is not "facts".

They keep saying Martin is clean because he struck the Gomery commission .......I guess he did but with the full knowledge that he could contain it.

Annie and Brison are running a tag team on fending off the allegations by wrapping themselves in the flag...it was all done for Canada Laughing

They both have dropped the "parallel group" defense from yesterday and are now saying the witnesses at the hearing are liars..

With thanks to WLM.

25 posted on 04/07/2005 2:27:56 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: headsonpikes

I just added "adscam" to the keyword index- click on it to see all the articles we have linked. It's a cesspool.


26 posted on 04/07/2005 2:48:36 PM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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To: fanfan
"I am amazed at how many Canadians go through life with their heads in the sand...."

Your tact is commendable - lots of us would say they have them firmly - and seemingly permanently - ensconced in their rectums!

Hopefully now with no hockey on the tube a few more will start paying attention - LOL!
27 posted on 04/07/2005 2:48:43 PM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Maybe if the polls show the Liberals falling...


28 posted on 04/07/2005 2:54:07 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: fanfan
"Harper wants to make sure Canadians have time to understand everything, so I think he'll hold off for a bit."

Newsflash to Stephen Harper:

"Fortune Favors The Brave!"

PULL THE PLUG - NOW !!!

Any delay gives the vermin and their media buddies time to spin!
29 posted on 04/07/2005 3:03:37 PM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: backhoe

Canada is no 2nd-tier world power when it comes to corruption!

We're Number One! We're Number One!


30 posted on 04/07/2005 3:07:12 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: fanfan

The CBC's really not that bad. While their editorial slant is definitely to the left, they do generally report the facts in an unbiased manner. I listened to the CBC radio news on the way home and they gave a pretty good summary, not sugar coated, of the Gomery commission testimony.


31 posted on 04/07/2005 3:19:32 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: headsonpikes

That money belonged to us, the taxpayers. I would like to know my portion so that I can claim the political donation on my income tax return.

Lousy thieves!


32 posted on 04/07/2005 3:57:15 PM PDT by In The Crease (Canada---no leftists need apply.)
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To: -YYZ-
To clarify on my comment: The CBC's news coverage is not that bad, in terms of presenting the stories in a balanced manner. And overall, in spite of being a big bunch of lefties, they do seem to delight in tweaking the government, whatever the current gov't is. The news program "The 5th Estate" has broken many stories over the years that were unfavorable to the government.
33 posted on 04/07/2005 4:03:50 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: headsonpikes
LOL!! I have satellite internet, my extensive library, and my eager bride - all set in a staggeringly beautiful mountain valley in B.C.

Now if it wasn't for the taxes and the medical care you might be able to get a touch of envy going for other posters.

Was for me, with my wife, your story would have to include a large Lottery winning and a selection of super powers.

34 posted on 04/07/2005 4:11:38 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: KC Burke
As for me...
35 posted on 04/07/2005 4:12:19 PM PDT by KC Burke (Men of intemperate minds can never be free....)
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To: -YYZ-
The CBC's news coverage is not that bad,

I'm afraid I have to disagree with your police work there YYZ.

Not that bad as compared to what?

Did you hear Marylou Findlay's interviews tonight on 'As It Happens"? The way she frames her questions, and the tone of voice changed markedly depending on 'Who' she was talking to.

36 posted on 04/07/2005 4:43:53 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: GMMAC
Newsflash to Stephen Harper:

I personally spoke to two hard working regular Canadians yesterday about the revelations.

Both responded..."Whats the Gomery Inquiry?"

We need time for the people to understand what has really happened.

37 posted on 04/07/2005 4:50:02 PM PDT by fanfan (" The liberal party is not corrupt " Prime Minister Paul Martin)
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To: fanfan

I don't really consider AIH as news coverage, more like editorial content. I didn't hear it tonight - I generally only hear it if I happen to be driving home after working late, or on my way to play badminton, and I don't have music on - so who was she interviewing?


38 posted on 04/07/2005 5:23:34 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: fanfan; -YYZ-
"The CBC's news coverage is not that bad ... in spite of being a big bunch of lefties, they do seem to delight in tweaking the government, whatever the current gov't is." - YYZ

Happen to think there's any co-relation between what you've said and the CBC being far and away to the left of any government we've ever had?

"Whats the Gomery Inquiry?' - We need time for the people to understand what has really happened." - fanfan

A 6-7 week election campaign ought to be lots of time - don't forget, it only took the media the final 2 weeks last June to spin matters enough to save Martin's job.

Stanfield waited and then played the perfect gentleman back in '74 and won us 5 more years of Trudeau!
Liberals must be kicked while they're down and even then can only be beaten by beating them at their own dirty games!

"If you can't lick 'em in the alley - you won't beat 'em on the ice!" - Conn Smythe
39 posted on 04/07/2005 5:34:00 PM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC
Stanfield waited and then played the perfect gentleman back in '74 and won us 5 more years of Trudeau! Liberals must be kicked while they're down and even then can only be beaten by beating them at their own dirty games!

"If you can't lick 'em in the alley - you won't beat 'em on the ice!" - Conn Smythe

Yee-haw! Tell it like it is, brother!

40 posted on 04/07/2005 5:48:51 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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To: GMMAC

"Happen to think there's any co-relation between what you've said and the CBC being far and away to the left of any government we've ever had?"

Yes, I'm sure that this is the case. I do stand by my assertion that their basic news coverage is fair and balanced, however. Even the interviewers sometimes question the lefties, although not often. Still, as morning and evening drive time shows go, it's about the only station around here (Toronto area) with a reasonably intelligent one, rather than a bunch of commercials and inanity. John Derringer on Q107 is generally quite conservative, though, and makes some interesting comments earlier in the morning.


41 posted on 04/07/2005 5:53:24 PM PDT by -YYZ-
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To: -YYZ-

It must be tough living in the Liberal stronghold of Toronto...aka 'the Centre of the Universe'...too bad the Conservatives still won't get much, if any, seats in the 416 area code...we need to hope they do well in the 905 (and a few more NDP seats in downtown won't hurt, after all they can't form government and those are just fewer Fiberals)


42 posted on 04/07/2005 7:09:24 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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One other thing that is probably necessary: try to e-mail the conservative members of the Liberal party to convince them to cross the floor, and the leftist memebers to convince them to join the NDP, which would help erradicate the real Fiberals out there.

The most prominent Liberals-in-name-only: Paul Steckle, Pat O'Brien, Roger Gallaway, Dan McTeague, Paul Zed, Tom Wappel


43 posted on 04/07/2005 9:30:15 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: headsonpikes

If Candian liberal voters are like American liberal voters, none of this corruption by their Liberal Party will matter. Bottom line: liberal voters want "free stuff" and as long as liberal politicians continue to provide their parasite constituents with "free stuff" in exchange for votes, none of this other stuff is of any concern.


44 posted on 04/07/2005 9:40:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

That's the #1 problem. You can guarantee that the Liberals will be looking every which way to scare people into voting for them in Ontario and Atlantic Canada - such as deceptive and threatening ads (vote for us or you will die, for example)


45 posted on 04/07/2005 9:47:10 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83

Do Canadians care? For the past couple of weeks, more then 200,000 Quebec people tuned in PER DAY.

It'll be big soon in the rest of Canada. So one thing is sure:
Liberal already lost Western Canada and of course, Quebec. The main battle will be Ontario, or our Lord and Master Toronto, and Atlantic Canada.


46 posted on 04/07/2005 9:51:49 PM PDT by -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-
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To: -=[_Super_Secret_Agent_]=-

That's correct. However, outside of the Toronto urban area, there are about 70 seats for the Conservatives to take, and they could easily take 55 of them (even if it means a few Liberals crossing the floor - hopefully a few will). The NDP could also get a few, holding on to what they have at least (6 seats outside the GTA).

If Mr. Dithers is limited to the Toronto core + a few others, that is only about 40 seats in Ontario, and even with sporadic seats elsewhere, that will only be enough to get him the Official Opposition, at best.

Realistic seats for the Conservatives right now:
NL - 3, NS - 5, PE - 1, NB - 4, QC - 0, ON - 65, MB - 10, SK - 14 (all), AB - 28 (all), BC - 26, North - 1 (Yukon)

Total: 157 (slim majority)


47 posted on 04/07/2005 10:02:01 PM PDT by Heartofsong83
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To: Heartofsong83
Re: your comment about recruiting supposed right-of-center Liberals.

While I'd prefer to see authentic conservatives like MP Cheryll Gallant getting elected from Ontario, 2 more Grits I could live with seeing cross the floor after a tight outcome are Mississauga's Paul Szabo and Albina Guarnieri.

Many of the people you've mentioned are likely to the ideological right of some CPCers who may get elected from Ontario. With the nomination lists now frozen, Ontarians will be offered many of the same pathetic failed Harris regime red-Tory rejects we saw last time out. I'd take someone like Albina over a politically correct slimeball divorce lawyer like Orangeville-area CPC MP David Tilson any day of the week!

BTW, at least fill out your location on your FR home page newbie and welcome aboard.
48 posted on 04/08/2005 6:07:58 AM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: Former Proud Canadian; Great Dane; Alberta's Child; headsonpikes; coteblanche; Ryle; ...
Found 5 minutes ago on canada.com:
POLL:
"Has the latest testimony before the Gomery Inquiry convinced you the Liberals have lost the moral authority to govern?"
99.86 %
Yes
0.14 %
No

49 posted on 04/08/2005 6:16:32 AM PDT by GMMAC (lots of terror cells in Canada - I'll be waving my US flag when the Marines arrive!)
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To: GMMAC

'99.86%' .... LOL!! Now that's a poll!


50 posted on 04/08/2005 6:32:27 AM PDT by headsonpikes (Spirit of '76 bttt!)
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