Posted on 04/07/2005 6:10:32 PM PDT by yoe
Good post.
Here is the thing, can they do better on the border yes. However, I'm not going to vote for a person who has empty promises..
No problem.
sammy is also probably biting his tongue on hillary's "pledge" in 92 that her "husband" would "end welfare as we know it", as he vetoed welfare reform 3 times, exactly the same number of times he vetoed ending partial birth abortion.
Anybody here who claims to be a conservative yet supports Hillary is not a true conservative..
Agreed. There are some issues that are more important than the illegal immigration issue. Taxes, defense, right to life and abortion, free market versus socialism, conservative judge who hold the law versus liberal judges who make them on the bench, etc...
Yes they can, but hillary says a couple of throw away words and to some on FR shes the new political goddess.
I'm still waiting for hillary to show up and embrace the so-called minutemen.
She won't, like how she didn't say a word about Terri Schindler-Schiavo, but what the hey there are good Republicans to bash, in the meantime.
How about the threat to support her? Can that be the hammer that will drive home the point to the GOP? Do you think they even care? Then and after that it is not even about the WH, it is indeed about congress and the courts. Now the threat should be clear, do you agree?
That means 57% view the Hildabeast as conservative? Right? Sheesh, where is Darwin when you need him?
My country amazes me on so many different levels. No matter, if her broadbeam ever attains the presidency, the fecal matter WILL hit the rotating oscillator, big time.
5.56mm
If she really wants to prove she grew a brain then she'll run as a republican... ;)
Very well said. You will be surprised that at least 10% of Free Republic members do support Hillary because she said she will do something about immigration. It is pathetic beyond belief. But I am not worried because at least 10 to 15% of Free Republic members did not vote for President Bush and they do not vote for the Republican party because in their eyes the GOP is "not conservative enough".
"I suppose we'll see if Mr. Rove is as smart as everyone thinks he is."
I am not aware that Mr. Rove works for the Republican Party. I believe he's been solely with GW Bush, for several campaigns.
Whew final authority, I surmise you would have used the same point electing hitler or stalin.
With friends like you, who needs enemies.
However as you know Dane, if Hillary Clinton run for President cannot be the stealth candidate (Kerry tried and failed miserably) because she will be forced to give her opinion or lack of on every issue. And that why I keep saying if people think that Kerry was a flip floper then they have seen nothing yet when it comes to Hillary Clinton, she will be the butt joke of the country.
PS: I like your new tag line :)
Fortunately, the American people are more perceptive about the globalist agenda than you are.
It has already happenned. Already wages for construction workers have plumetted across the southwest. Why ? Illegals. Illegals are a globalist elite tool to reduce the American standard of living to Mexican levels. Or are you naive enough to buy the "compassion" slop that open border lobby types hand out ?
If its a choice between those who want to actively hurt American workers and those who even promise to recognize illegals as a problem, its no contest. Look at the Minutemen. The grass roots anger and sense of betrayal over "guest worker" and "only taking jobs Americans don't want" is spreading. If you want to be on the wrong side of it with Dane, prepare for a nasty shock in 2008 because, surprise, most Americans don't hate the Clintons as much as you do.
Illegal immigration and indeed the whole NAFTA, CAFTA agenda is about whether America will be a sovereign, first world country twenty years from now or will be run from behind fortified walls by the people Dane shills for. And if you think that an America of steadily dropping wages will wish to bear the economic cost of being a military superpower you are crazy.
The point I refered to is the issue of criminal aliens and open borders. I also wrote, THREAT. I think most of us on these threads heartily desire the GOP to take the issue of borders seriously and are looking for ways to make our point.
I can't believe you and your knee-jerk argument goes to the concept of Hitler as soon as you do. Why don't you just call me and the other 80% or better FR members who disagree with you on the border issue, NAZI's.
I been out and just getting back into the dialogue. Currently, the GOP nominee pool is thin in terms of national name recognition. GWB benefitted from his father's name. As much as it pains me, the strongest candidate the GOP can muster in a national election today is McCain. Unfortunately, he will have a problem making it out of the primaries. On the plus side, he is pro-Life, strong on defense, won his Senate reelection in 2004 surpassing Bush (77% to 55%) and he has a relatively strong conservative rating. He also has plenty of negatives, which could suppress GOP turnout. Age is also a problem.
Other GOP possibilities are Bill Owens, George Allen, Mike Huckabee, Bob Erlich, and Mitt Romney. Hopefully someone will emerge between now and 2008.
I agree that cultural issues could be used as wedge issues along with immigration reform and national defense. The GOP must continue to be the party of ideas. I would even use SS reform as long as it properly framed.
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