Posted on 04/07/2005 10:46:24 PM PDT by spodefly
There aren't many border-control success stories these days, but Arizona's Minuteman Project is quickly becoming one. For observers wondering how average Americans can contribute meaningfully to homeland security, the Minutemen are becoming something of a model. If a comparison to Britain's World War II civilian spotters seems far-fetched -- the spotters were private citizens, often over the age to serve in the military, who watched for Nazi planes and helped British forces score some considerable successes -- the difference is one of circumstance. That's something for President Bush and the open-borders crowd to think about.
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Welcome to FR.
We'll see how easy it is to get on with business as usual if Mr. and Mrs. Squishy Middle wake up and discover they are the frog in the boiling water.
And if this attention does nothing, and it turns out that no one really cares about rampant illegality, then we deserve what we get.
"We hope President Bush and others who prefer the status quo are watching. "
Amen !!!
See the movie "Colatteral" for details.
I don't understand why the Prez is so upset. He was the one who said Americans should get involved and do some kind of community service. This is even greater than that. They're doing the whole country a service that the government can't do, and making them look like jackasses while they do it. Wasn't this what he meant? LOL
Standing ovation from California!
President Bush isn't going to change his position on the guest worker program, as he's consistently expressed his views on illegals for some time now. He believes they are essential to fill jobs Americans won't take (on starvation wages).
I often wonder why so many Freepers believe President Bush is conservative, when compassionate conservatism means the government should do more--not less. Say what you will about the man, but he's steadfast. The only thing he's likely to do about illegal immigration is declare it legal.
The Republicans ignore this ( or wish it would go away ) at their peril. Most Americans are not all that dogmatic or doctrinaire, and the party which does the best job of finding solutions to this problem will sweep all before it. You have been warned.
"The Republicans ignore this ( or wish it would go away ) at their peril."
Right. I know that the Bushbots think we're just bashing Bush. No. This isn't a game to us.
They should remember those links you ran to support the war in Iraq. If anything, we are trying to spare the GOP a painful defeat, one they would deserve if they continue to neglect border safety during our war on terror.
"I often wonder why so many Freepers believe President Bush is conservative."
Bush is a moderate who runs the military well. He may even be called great one day, because he's so much better compared to Clinton. Sad FReegards....
I support President Bush,but I wish he would do more with the borders.I believe in closing them.But I think the minutemen are doing great and I support them too.
I voted for Bush twice. And so did Rush. So did Hannity. And they are in agreement with us too. Why? It's completely logical. FReegards....
Exactly.
( And I thank you for remembering my previous work- I've supported the President from the beginning, I've criticized him when I think he is wrong, and I think he started off on the wrong foot on this subject. )
This "issue" is flying under the radar because politicians and the press don't want to talk about it ( for whatever reasons ) but that does not mean it isn't out there, and on people's minds. My nominally Democrat wife is incensed about illegal aliens. Why? In the last year, nearly every house south of us has filled up with immigrants, and as the old joke goes, "there went the neighborhood..." She sees- correctly- that we'll never, ever get back what we put in this house since 1987-- it's a pocketbook issue for her. For me, it's quality of life- I don't care for the packs of immigrants, cars, and dogs roaming the neighborhood at all hours, the noise, five cars and trucks-- all brand new- parked on the grass in front of every house... houses which have, incidently, at least one and often three brand-new satellite dishes sprouting from roof and lawn. And every one of 'em has a cell phone- but the houses seem to lack landlines-- draw what conclusions you will from this, but it is not a pretty, or flattering, picture. It's downright ugly.
It's not funny, quaint, or amusing any longer, and politicians ignore it at their own peril.
Privately, Minutemen are getting word from agents in the field that they appreciate their help. As Mr. Simcox told Fox News Thursday morning, agents are giving the "thumbs up" to the volunteers. How ironic that the people who President Bush derided as "vigilantes" are acting as much-needed extra eyes and ears for law-enforcement officials. The Minutemen have all but sealed the U.S.-Mexico border in the 23-mile stretch they patrol. Their success suggests that, organized in larger scale with a cooperative federal government, groups like Project Minuteman could be a substantial contribution to border security.
I have two grand kids that are B.P.agents in Yuma,Az.They are working over time in order to stop the flow of illegals and drug smugglers on the border.
Every time they seal one area a new one pops up.
Both the North & South borders would need over a 100,000 or more agents to curb the flow.
Bush's plans will not stop the flow.
Amnesty won't work as illegals are scared of being tricked.
It seems to me that we are in danger of losing border towns to Mexican control.
Mexicans still think they got shafted in 1848.
What he meant was that we as communities should get busy and help get the illegal Mexicans settled into our community and if anyone disagrees, whap them across the kisser.
Americans are starting to figure out this travesty. We're shoveling hundreds of billions of dollars at "Homeland Security" post 9-11, yet we have a virtually unguarded border. Bush won't even build a basic security fence like the one at bottom, or fund 2,000 more badly needed Border Patrol agents.
This is clearly dereliction of duty on the part of our president. He wants cheap illegal alien labor, more than he wants to defend the nation in wartime.
U.S. Constitution Article 4 Section 4:
"The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,
You're right, they can't hold a flood back with their bare hands. But the world's greatest economic power could build a simple and effective pair of fences like the one on the bottom of the picture for a tiny pittance, probably less than the cost of one nuclear submarine, for example.
But Bush won't do his clear duty, under Article 4 Section 4 of the Constitution.
A fact which incresingly tempts me to become a single-issue voter.
I'm not there yet, but I'm not getting any less pissed off either.
You know I agree with you. The threat to security is awful enough by itself- then, you factor in the social disruption, and costs, it looks even worse. I say again, this is going to be an issue, whether or not the talking heads on TV or the politicians want it to be.
Presidente Arbusto says they are vigilantes. Vigilantes won't get nice CD helmets.
But when terrorists walk into the USA and leave their footprints going back to our unguarded border, I refuse to let them say "We had no idea! We thought there was already a fence there!"
Let the record be clear: our borders are wide open.
At family get togethers, the subject of illegals is the only political topic not banned. We're split politcally (half liberals/half conservatives), and it's the only issue we don't argue over.
Border Spotters Success Ping!
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I was in Reynosa this week and watched the local Mexican TV station. They had pictures of the Minutemen and focused on their guns and holsters almost exclusively. I don't know what they were saying, but it can't help but scare the hell out of em.
That attitude "migrating" North brings about the reality, IMO.
God Bless you, my FRiend. I have two or three friends like you here in Cochise County, and I have a fair idea of what you're up against.
It is neither pretty nor easy, but you haven't let that stop you from doing the right thing.
So again, thanks. It's not much to offer, but it's all I have right now.
Yep, I'm sure you're right. I wonder how many of them we are each going to be assigned to take in and raise. LOL
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