Posted on 04/08/2005 5:55:47 PM PDT by MisterRepublican
Howard Dean called the other day and started talking about Jesus. Yes, that Howard Dean. Yes, that Jesus.
Dean is the doctor and former Vermont governor who now is chairman of the Democratic National Committee, having pretty much screamed himself out of the Democratic presidential nomination last year.
Along the campaign path he remarked that his favorite New Testament book was Job, which, actually, is in the Old Testament.
It was insinuated that Dean, like the Alan Alda character on "West Wing," wasn't all that much for churchgoing. The way to insinuate such a thing is to call a man "perhaps the most secular candidate for the presidency in modern times."
Dean was coming to my little Southern city to speak to the national association of state Democratic chairmen. He wanted to give me a little insight on what he would say, as much, that is, as you can impart in seven minutes over the cellular crackle on your way back from the Vatican Embassy where you'd signed the condolences book for the Pope.
This speech would offer the best early indication of what Dean had in mind for the Democrats.
(Excerpt) Read more at pahrumpvalleytimes.com ...
I wanted to go back to how the Democrats shouldn't shy away from the values debate. "We need to talk about Christian values and how they're Democratic values," Dean said. "Jesus taught to help the least among us. He spent his life reaching out to the disenfranchised. The Democratic Party is the party of that value, not the Republican Party."
YYYYYEEEEEEAAAAAAHHHHHHHRRRRRRRGGGGGGG!
Someone should tell the good doctor from VT that Red State giving far outstrips that from the Blue States (and may they remain 'blue' for a long time).
HAAAAAaaaaaaaa!!! Sorry- I can't STAND IT...lmao..."Jesus spent his life reaching out to the disenfranchised"....(what, like Rev Al?)
This is probably the most amazing characterization I've ever heard. As though Christ was talking with a voting bloc.
Is it just me? Or does that Deanism strike anyone else as ...odd?
Put thy finger into the wind to see which way it bloweth and then adjusteth thy doctrine, regardless whether you believeth it or not.-- Howard Dean, propheteer of the Demoncratic Party.
If Democratic values are Christian values, why does Dean think he needs to tell everyone that?
Dean and Rangell don't know their Bible.
Wolves in sheeps' clothing trying to confuse and confound
the ignorant.
Government was NEVER Christ's answer to the problems of human
suffering...only the good will of people individually as
their heart directs.
What an abomination, to equate government seizure of your
money..stolen to give to others.
Thanks DEMS. We know you better.
You realize your asking a logical question about a guy who once left his church over a bicycle path.
Yeah right...What a loon. God and Jesus are Republicans, we all know that.
Wasn't it Howard Dean who named a book in the Old Testament as his favorite book in the New Testament? I could swear I read that or heard the soundbite somewhere.
Next thing we know some dem will be talking about how the Pope was able to 'build a crowd'.
Gee, Reverend Howie, tell us how abortion is a Christian value.
He's Dean and he may be nuts, but he's right about the need to balance the budget. ;-)
Yeah...except that whole killing babies thing.
and the gay rights/marriage thing.
and the class struggle (thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's... stuff) thing.
and the religious displays at holiday time issue.
and thou shalt not kill thing... not to insinuate anything about Arkancide being more than a coincidence.
and the lying thing... sometimes you need to... protect the sensibilities of others you know.
and the adultery thing... Christians aren't really strict on that are they?
and what's this bearing false witness thing about anyways?
Wait a minute, stealing is wrong?!? since when?
On second thought, you Christians are just too tight assed, sheesh!
/sarc.
Yes - it was the Book of Job that entered the "Time Machine".
Uh Yea, and I'm going to be elected pope.
Someone help me understand this.
Didn't Senator Kerry during the course of the campaign state in a pained manner that we couldn't know if God was on our side, only hope he was? To paraphrase. This was in response to a comment the President had made, as the reactive Kerry statements mostly were.
The "progressive" Democrat Party has overcome that hurdle and now believes they can claim Christ is on the side of a political Party? Should we be expecting an apology any day now for the former position since they've obviously decided God can take sides and that they, in their infinite wisdom, can claim he's chosen them?
The sad thing is that they have no idea how offensive this is to Christians. God doesn't belong to a political Party! He never will.
People who believe IN God DO support political Parties but we have never claimed the Republican Party was His Church because we support them.
So long as the Democrats seek to persecute Christians, mock them, ridicule them, insult their intelligance, insult their God, use God as a political prop and push them out of sight as though to be a person of faith is an act of Shame...they will lose support of faith voters. Supporting homosexual marriage, abortion, and the removal of all mentions of Christianity from public life will only seal the deal.
Dean Flip-Flop Regarding Loving Thy Neighbor:
However, check this out: "In the first he said Jesus' directive to ''love thy neighbor'' didn't mean one could choose which ones to love. He then remarked that Republicans never brought up the scriptural verse saying it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven."
I saw this and was rather struck by the reference to the "love thy neighbor" part. Does anyone remember what happened with Dean last time loving thy neighbor came up?
FREEPER FLASHBACK TIME! During the Democratic Presidential Candidate debates, an elderly man asked Dr. Dean why he wasn't focusing on substantative issues rather than "attacking one's neighbor", an obvious invocation of the famous biblical passage. Dean cut the man off, angrily responding "George Bush is not my neighbor."
OELWEIN, Iowa (Reuters) - Dale Ungerer, a 66-year-old retiree from Hawkeye, Iowa, succeeded on Sunday where eight Democratic presidential hopefuls have failed -- he made front-runner Howard Dean show a flash of his much-discussed temper.
The former Vermont governor had just finished his standard stump speech blasting President Bush for, among other things, his Iraq policy and his stewardship of the economy. He asked, as is his custom, for "questions, comments or rude remarks in the New England tradition."
Ungerer, wearing a T-shirt bearing the words "Mr Fix It," rose to his feet and condemned what he called the incivility of the campaign and the political press. He suggested Dean and the other Democratic candidates stop "tearing down your neighbor" and cut their "slam, bam and bash Bush" rhetoric.
"Please tone down the garbage, the mean-mouthing of tearing down your neighbor and being so pompous," Ungerer, a registered Republican who voted for Bush in 2000, said to scattered hisses and boos from the overwhelmingly pro-Dean audience at the Oelwein Community Center.
Dean, whose rivals have suggested his impulsiveness, outspokenness and temperament make him less than ready for the White House but have been unable to provoke him in a dozen or more debates and forums, began by calmly replying: "George Bush is not my neighbor."
But when Ungerer stood and tried to interrupt, Dean shouted: "You sit down. You had your say. Now I'm going to have my say."
The crowd cheered and Ungerer sat.
"George Bush has done more to harm this county right here with unfunded mandates, standing up for corporations who take over the farmers' land, making it impossible for middle class people to make a real living, sending our kids to Iraq without telling us the truth first about why they went," Dean said.
"It's not the time to put up any of this 'love thy neighbor' stuff ... I love my neighbor, but I'll tell you I want THAT neighbor back in Crawford, Texas where he belongs."
After Ungerer left the room trailed by reporters, Dean lambasted Bush for trying to cut overtime pay, calling it another reason he had "differed with the gentleman over here so vociferously."
"This is the president of the United States," he said. "I don't think that's being a good neighbor to ordinary working people."
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