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Grandchildren of smokers at risk
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Posted on 04/09/2005 8:20:36 PM PDT by paulat
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To: paulat
They might want to check to see what these people use to heat their homes.
Wood burning stoves seem to be a large contributer to asthma. I hadn't realized that until I heard a doctor of FNC talk about it. My nephews suffer from it primarily in the winter months and they do have a wood burning stove in their house.
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posted on
04/09/2005 9:08:54 PM PDT
by
Netizen
(USA - Land of the free, home of the brave, where the handicapped are legally starved and dehydrated!)
To: Happygal
Um..show me the science, toots. EXACTLY. At best the most they can say is that smoking while pregnant MIGHT hurt the child and they can't even be that strong when referring to grandmothers.
The few people I knew while growing up that had asthma had non-smoking parents. And the majority of kids I see nowadays with it not only have non-smoking parents, they live practically antiseptic lives.
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posted on
04/09/2005 9:12:37 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(John Paul II, pray for us.)
To: Mears
The points you make are very good. Mine are equally true.
The sum total of our discussion is abstract and useless... like this study.
To: SteveMcKing
.........abstract and useless... like this study. Sums things up quite nicely!
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posted on
04/09/2005 9:15:26 PM PDT
by
Gabz
(John Paul II, pray for us.)
To: paulat
And the demon weed shall curse you unto the third generation.
To: paulat
Let's say I could get a government grant and tweak the results to say that "experts" cause cancer. Perhaps this is jumping the gun, so to speak, but isn't it now time to ban the so-called "experts"? Shouldn't we declare that second-hand "experts" can put others at risk? Therefore, "experts" should be banned from public places, even though their use is still 'legal'?
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posted on
04/09/2005 10:27:19 PM PDT
by
RasterMaster
(Saddam's family were WMD's - He's behind bars & his sons are DEAD!)
To: paulat
Statistical homeopathy. The weaker the apparent causal link between two correlated phenomena, the stronger the imputed link.
To illustrate, suppose a particular factory uses some chemical which is suspected of causing Syndrome Q. If the incidence of SyQ is much higher among factory workers than among the population at large, that would suggest there might be a causal relationship.
Suppose, however, that the incidence is higher not only among those who actually work in the factory, but also among family members. That would seem to suggest the causal mechanism was so powerful that people didn't even need to work in the factory to be affected.
Now suppose that the incidence was higher not only among the families of factory workers, but also among those who ever visited with the factory workers. That would seem to suggest something more potent still...
Or else it would suggest that perhaps the implied causal relationship doesn't really exist.
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posted on
04/09/2005 11:13:00 PM PDT
by
supercat
("Though her life has been sold for corrupt men's gold, she refuses to give up the ghost.")
To: Gabz
Smoked and drank coffee while pregnant. All 3 kids are alive and well. Youngest is 27. The powers that be need TO LEAVE US ALONE. I'm going to have a cigarette now.
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posted on
04/09/2005 11:21:03 PM PDT
by
Lovergirl
(Terri..I don't personally know you but I love you.)
To: SheLion
Do you believe they are trying this again? I know the retro movement is big in america but damn.Does anyone remeber the "scientist/whores" that said the same tihng about lsd in the 60s when they were tryingot scare people away from it they said it broke dna strands so they parents were at risk of passing on birth defects to thier kids.Then in the late 70s and early 80 s all of the "scientist/whores" admitted they faked the results becasue the federal goverment PAYED them to release those results.I am absolutly certian beyond a shadow of a doubt that that is whats going on here.Hell it might even be some ofthe same "scientists/whores" that did the lsd trials in the mid 60s
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posted on
04/09/2005 11:27:59 PM PDT
by
freepatriot32
(If you want to change goverment support the libertarian party www.lp.org)
To: Gabz; Just another Joe; Madame Dufarge; MeeknMing; steve50; KS Flyover; Cantiloper; metesky; ...
The researchers analysed asthma rates in both the children and grandchildren of women who smoked during pregnancy.I smoked before, during and after my pregnancy, and my daughter never ever had asthma!
Smoke and the Asthma Epidemic: A Reality Check
They found children whose mothers and grandmothers both smoked had the highest risk, with a likelihood of developing asthma 2.6 times higher than normal. The research will be published in Chest, a medical journal.
My whole family smoked. There isn't one case of asthma among the lot.
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posted on
04/10/2005 4:54:20 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: paulat
Grandchildren of smokers at riskOh my frickin' G-d.
They gotta be kidding me.
I bet Isaac Newton is at risk from contemporary smokers, too.
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posted on
04/10/2005 4:56:42 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
To: Larry Lucido
Therefore, smoking causes mobile homes. So, by extension, smoking causes tornadoes.Tornados are thought to be related to global warming.
Ergo, smoking causes global warming.
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posted on
04/10/2005 4:57:41 AM PDT
by
Lazamataz
(Cleverly Arranging 1's And 0's Since 11110111011...)
To: proxy_user
Therefore, smoking causes mobile homes.
Confusing correlation with causation.
I think owning a mobile home leads to smoking.../sarcasm
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posted on
04/10/2005 5:02:46 AM PDT
by
Kozak
(Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
To: Lazamataz
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posted on
04/10/2005 5:40:53 AM PDT
by
SheLion
(Trying to make a life in the BLUE state of Maine!)
To: Gabz
Hi Gabz. Good to see you.
>> More kids have asthma now with smoking rates at less than 1/4 of the population - relatively few had asthma back when more than 50% of the population smoked <<
Exactly right. The current generation of wimps is raising and even wimpier generation. While we're getting softer, the rest of the world is getting tougher.
If it doesn't change, this country won't fare well in the next world war.
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posted on
04/10/2005 9:14:04 AM PDT
by
appalachian_dweller
(Beware of appalachian_dwellers bearing gifts.......or not.)
To: appalachian_dweller
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posted on
04/10/2005 9:20:43 AM PDT
by
Gabz
(John Paul II, pray for us.)
To: paulat
Bull Sh!t!
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posted on
04/10/2005 9:35:07 AM PDT
by
metesky
("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
To: metesky
Don't yell at me...yell at the London Sunday Times....
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posted on
04/10/2005 10:37:57 AM PDT
by
paulat
To: Gabz; SheLion
I have a picture of myself with a cigarette in one hand and a scotch in the other---New Years Eve----1962---My second child was born 6 weeks later.
No asthma,no bronchitis,no nothin'. He's a big guy now with kids of his own who are also very healthy.
Decaf coffee was out of the question---I drank gallons of regular and no one told me not to.
I did have to watch my sodium intake,though. Evil stuff,salt!!!!! LOL
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posted on
04/10/2005 11:46:10 AM PDT
by
Mears
("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
To: RasterMaster
Experts cause extreme angst----no one could argue with that theory.
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posted on
04/10/2005 11:51:11 AM PDT
by
Mears
("The Killer Queen,caviar and cigarettes")
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