Brief Report of some Activities of Day Nine of Minuteman Project

jackelopebreeder | 10 April 2005 | jackelopebreeder

[texastoo]

Thanks to you, jackelopebreeder, idratherbpainting and all the Minute Men and Minute Women. This has strictly been an eye opener experience for all us bystanders. Just to think that our government has left these good people, Americans, prey for the illegals is unreal.

[zeugma]

I really prefer Jackbassalopes.(1/3 jack rabbit, 1/3 basset hound, 1/3 antelope) Tastes like chicken.

[B4Ranch]

>>Sounds like the cell phones are key to the crossings......interesting.<<

It's illegal to listen in to the calls today. You can't buy scanners with the frequencies anymore.

So, they are more effective for illegal communications than hand held radios, by design.

[Squantos]

Cut the green wire..........really.

[c-b 1]

We had an orginizational meeting for a borderwatch group here in Yuma last Wednsday evening, this will be an ongoing thing kind of like Chris Simcock's group. It will take a while to get it off the ground, they are going to try to co-ordinate with the Yuma County Sheriff, the Imperial County, California Sheriff, and the Border Patrol. There was an Imperial County Deputy present. They will ask for some training from law enforcement, and first aid/CPR training from the Yuma Fire Department.

I was a bit cynical when I went, but I listened to everything without saying anything, I decided they are trying to do it right, and work together with with law enforcement. Some of us won't be going into the field, due to the no guns policy, but will help with some of the organizing, and training, and working radios as time allows.

[Squantos]

Why the no guns policy ?

[Petruchio]

I've got possession of that cell phone and I am trying to get a charger cable to recharge it and get the numbers off of it. I will turn over the phone numbers and cell phone to Border Patrol if I can get anything from it and confirm it was actually dropped by a coyote.

Before you turn it in, may I suggest a few lengthy calls to . . . ohhhh . . . I don't know . . . Zimbabwe maybe?

[djreece]

Thank you for the great report. Thank you to all the Minutemen (and women)!

[c-b 1]

I think they believe they will get more co-operation from law enforcement that way.

If that is how they want to do it thats ok with me, but I won't be going into the field. There were several of us at the meeting who always carry, we all said we would help with radios, or whatever needs done at the base.

[Covenantor]

BTTT

[B4Ranch]

The Minutemen are showing us not only how to seal our borders and protect our national security, they are demonstrating how we, the people, can take back our country from the political establishment.

Which fence would you rather cross if you were sneaking past the Border patrol?

Lets make our Ports of Entry the choice for everyone coming to America.

Some questions and ideas for you to think about.
What do you think would happen if a popular football or other sports star was to start off the project by donating 5 thousand or 5 million dollars to build fences on private property that adjoins the border?

Then a few more sport stars each throw in a couple of thousand or million (grin) of their own money while asking all "True Americans" to send just one hours wages to the FENCE FUND?

Do you think that the politicians would be able to stop this from growing out of control and the voters demanding that the Feds "fence our border lands"?

Do you think the politicians would listen or ignore a million calls a day to their offices?

Never underestimate what the American people can do when they decide they want to do it.

While I'm at it, we could start a "Name and Shame List" of companies that hire illegals. Name the banks that loan money to a tax number when the illegal doesn't have a phony Social Security number. Name the mortgage companies that favor home loans to illegals, using our money for their downpayment.

If you have ideas or questions, throw them in the pot here. I'm sure there's FReeper who can answer most of the questions or critique your ideas.

Do you have any ideas on how to get this started?

We need to keep the fire burning while the media is watching and reporting.

[Squantos]

Good luck with the effort.......

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"The girls were tired, cold, hungry, dehydrated – and terrified. I wanted that coyote’s hide."

It's good to care about endangered ladies. At the same time, the Minutemen are disrupting the coyotes' routine. The coyotes are losing face. People will be less willing to pay them much.

It seems to me that the Minutemen are acting in combat terms like a reserve. You are more mobile than the border patrols' placements, which appear to be too rigid. So it's been easy for coyotes to overwhelm Arizona. That's all changing now.

Great work! FReegards....

[Spiff]

We had an orginizational meeting for a borderwatch group here in Yuma last Wednsday evening, this will be an ongoing thing kind of like Chris Simcock's group. It will take a while to get it off the ground, they are going to try to co-ordinate with the Yuma County Sheriff, the Imperial County, California Sheriff, and the Border Patrol. There was an Imperial County Deputy present. They will ask for some training from law enforcement, and first aid/CPR training from the Yuma Fire Department. I was a bit cynical when I went, but I listened to everything without saying anything, I decided they are trying to do it right, and work together with with law enforcement. Some of us won't be going into the field, due to the no guns policy, but will help with some of the organizing, and training, and working radios as time allows.

I know Chris Simcox has come over there and trained a few people. You NEED to get him over there again to train your group before you do this. You NEED to adopt the same S.O.P. he's been using and that the Minuteman Project is now using.

And, under no circumstances should you guys try this with a no gun policy. The presence of the firearms is a key element to the success of the effort. You will not only be without protection, but you will further endanger yourselves because the border crossers and violent drug smugglers and human traffickers will know that you are not armed. You will not be so much a deterrent but instead you will be targets. In addition, an unarmed patrol will not draw the media in like you need to.

Whomever it was that came up with and promoted the no gun policy should be removed from the group. He's dangerous and does not know what he's doing.

[Spiff]

Thanks for the updates, I was wondering if there had been any talk on site about making the project longer or permanent? since the infrastructure is in place, all thats needed is a rotation of volunteers...

This might happen. Stay tuned.

[Spiff]

I know this is from Day 10, but I'm not going to start another thread until have more to put in it:

Last night in the same location where I said the van came in and picked up a load and then nearly ran down some Minuteman another 3 vans showed up. Border Patrol responded immediately and the load vehicle drivers bailed into the woods. The third vehicle was chased by Border Patrol and stopped about a mile up the road. All of this happened within a mile of my house.

One of my friends, a Minuteman Project volunteer, heard this all on the scanner. Her husband, another volunteer, headed out to warn the volunteers around that area that they should expect a group of 30-50 angry border intruders who lost their rides.

This was to the SW of my house. Continuing to listen on the scanner it was determined that most of the group had made it past the MMP volunteers and into the wash they love to use. How they did this, I don't know. We have volunteers up and down that highway they have to cross. But somehow they found a way. There's all kinds of culverts and washes and stuff under that highway. Maybe there was one we were not watching at the moment in the dark.

The group continued down the wash and the next report from the Border Patrol over the scanner said that they were stretched out in the field along the road about a quarter mile due east of my house where we have no observation posts. So, it sounded like my house was halfway surrounded - to the south and to the east. The group was then estimated at 50 by Border Patrol and 2 load vehicles were intercepted on the road where my friend was harassing the coyotes the day before. The group was headed that direction.

Next report came at about 11pm where a resident on that road heard pounding on his door. There were 3 border intruders on his porch who, in the course of their conversation, admitted that there was a group of 200 in the field nearby. That means there was a group of 200 desperate and angry criminal invaders in the field a quarter mile from my house.

I put the dog out and slept with one eye open. I heard nothing. I will check this morning to see how many the BP picked up and if there was any further incident. As I type, I can hear the BP helicopter flying overhead, likely looking for stragglers in the field. For some reason the helicopter never came up this way last night and spent its time further to the south, closer to the border.

[Spiff]

If that is how they want to do it thats ok with me, but I won't be going into the field. There were several of us at the meeting who always carry, we all said we would help with radios, or whatever needs done at the base.

The several of you who have half a brain need to call Chris Simcox and arrange a meeting. Maybe you can come over here on Saturday, volunteer as Minutemen, go through the orientation training, and then get more OJT as you patrol that night. Then you all go back to Yuma and start the real border watch group and let the guys who don't know what they're doing go find another hobby.

[Jeff Head]

God bless the Minutemen for what they are doing on the border and the light they are shining, despite whatever embarrassement and wrong thinking, on the critical issue at the border. Nay their efforts lead to a larger effort that expands to more and more of the border until it covers it all. This is the spirit of America at work...and the government needs to get n board and incorporate the ideas and the principles into our "official" programs.

I have friends down there with them and wish this is one I could have made myself. They are doing patriotic work and it WILL make a difference.

[Spiff]

God bless the Minutemen for what they are doing on the border and the light they are shining, despite whatever embarrassement and wrong thinking, on the critical issue at the border. Nay their efforts lead to a larger effort that expands to more and more of the border until it covers it all. This is the spirit of America at work...and the government needs to get n board and incorporate the ideas and the principles into our "official" programs. I have friends down there with them and wish this is one I could have made myself. They are doing patriotic work and it WILL make a difference.

Thank you, Jeff. That means a lot coming from you. Maybe you'll be able to come down for the next one. We could use the help.

[Jeff Head]

If I hadn't had recent surgery and a relatively involved recovery I would have tried this time (assuing the wife aproved...if mama aint happy, aint nobody happy). This thing has been very well done, in the face of and despite all the negatives, misiformtion, potential attempted infiltration, etc...and despite the blatant threatengs by the governor of Arizona.

God bless you guys...you are serving the country and doing it as volunteers on your own time and doing it in a very responsible and all American way as far as I am concerned.

Be careful...as you know, your success will likely invivte more attempts at infiltration, black balling, threats, and vitriol...but I know if you keep your hand on the plow in such a cause, that other civil, law abiding and concerned Americans who care about our borders and their entegrity will gravitate to the cause and example you have set...the ground you have broek...and I believe that God in Heaven will help you and sustain you in such an effort...but that's just my own faith and feeling.