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Killer virus red alert as more die April 11, 2005 (South Africa goes on high alert)
Cape Times ^ | 4-11-05

Posted on 04/10/2005 8:52:43 PM PDT by Mother Abigail

Killer virus red alert as more die April 11, 2005

By Own Correspondents and Sapa-AFP

Pretoria/Uige:

South Africa has begun implementing precautions against the deadly Marburg haemorrhagic fever, which has claimed the lives of 193 of the 218 people infected in Angola in the worst outbreak of the disease yet.

South Africa's precautions follow a World Health Organisation (WHO) warning to countries neighbouring Angola that they should go on the alert.

The WHO said late last night that 360 people were being monitored in Angola, where the disease broke out in October.

A severe haemorrhagic fever akin to Ebola, the Marburg virus is spread through contact with body fluids, such as blood, urine, excrement, vomit and saliva.

It can, however, be contained by taking fairly simple health precautions, experts say.

Detailed life histories are being taken down and vigilance has been increased at all points of entry into South Africa. These measures are South Africa's first line of defence.

"There is concern about an outbreak in South Africa as there is a lot of travel between Angola and South Africa," said Lucille Blumberg, of the National Institute for Communicable Diseases.

Health officials say, however, that it would be too time-consuming and expensive to test everyone entering South Africa for the disease.

"We can't take blood from everyone," said Bonnie Maloba, a doctor.

"What we need to do is exclude people and the best way to do this is to take a detailed history." Top South African pathogen expert Adriano Duse has been asked to join the international team trying to contain and overcome the deadly virus.

Duse, the National Health Laboratory Service's (NHLS) chief specialist, has been contracted by WHO and the Global Alert and Response Network to join the multinational team working in Angola's Uige province - the epicentre of the outbreak.

Through the NHLS, South Africa's expertise has contributed to research and combating infectious diseases, including previous, smaller outbreaks of Marburg fever.

Duse said he had been selected for his expertise in infectious diseases and infection control.

"I will be joining an international team in Luanda and then we are in the hands of the WHO and UN to take us to where we are needed," he said.

The WHO has warned the Congo, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Namibia and Zambia - all bordering Angola - to be on alert for outbreaks of the virus.

Epidemiologists in Uige are working overtime to trace new cases of the virus, which has sparked panic in Angola.

Every morning, teams from the WHO search the town of Uige for new cases.

"We visit our contacts and look for suspected cases," Francois Libama, a WHO epidemiologist, said.

"If we find a suspected case, we call in the special teams to remove the body."

At the WHO's temporary headquarters in the town, a blackboard gives a grim account of the latest death toll.

"Two corpses in Candombe Velho. Two corpses in Candombe-Novo. One alert in the Popular Quarter. One corpse at the cemetery," it reads.


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KEYWORDS: angola; ebola; marburg; southafrica; virus
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1 posted on 04/10/2005 8:52:43 PM PDT by Mother Abigail
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To: Marie; cherry; united1000; keri; maestro; riri; Black Agnes; vetvetdoug; CathyRyan; per loin; ...


FYI


2 posted on 04/10/2005 8:55:27 PM PDT by Mother Abigail
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To: Mother Abigail

Thanks Mom...


3 posted on 04/10/2005 8:58:21 PM PDT by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: Mother Abigail

bttt


4 posted on 04/10/2005 8:59:36 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Mother Abigail

> ... Marburg virus is spread through contact with body
> fluids, such as blood, urine, excrement, vomit and saliva.
> It can, however, be contained by taking fairly simple
> health precautions, experts say.

This information may be outdated and fatally incorrect.

As I was pointing out on an earlier thread:
... even as of today, the CDC, at:
http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/spb/mnpages/dispages/marburg/qa.htm
is still telling people that Marburg:
* has a 5-10 day incubation
* is 23-25% fatal, and
* is not airborne, requiring direct contact with fluids

So they suppose an Ebola-like situation where symptoms
arrive fast, the infection is unlikely to be passed
until symptoms are evident, and moderate precautions
protect care providers.

Instead, we seem to have a 20-day virus, 99% fatal, and
possibly airborne. If so, it has massive pandemic
potential, and the official response to date, world-wide,
is suicidally inadequate.

Plus, we have another report of bodies being abandoned
in place in Angola, which means that animals will now
contract and spread the virus to all susceptible
biological populations.


5 posted on 04/10/2005 9:00:26 PM PDT by Boundless (We may need the bird flu protocols, but not for bird flu.)
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To: Mother Abigail
where the disease broke out in October.

Sure glad they're right on top of it!

and

We visit our contacts and look for suspected cases," Francois Libama, a WHO epidemiologist, said. "If we find a suspected case, we call in the special teams to remove the body."

me dumb. they look for suspected cases and when they find them, have the bodies removed?

That's quite a diagnostic team!

6 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:11 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Mother Abigail; Covenantor; neverdem

Ping.
More.


7 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:34 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Mother Abigail

One day at a time.


8 posted on 04/10/2005 9:01:43 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Mother Abigail
Mother Nature can be a most harsh and convincing teacher.
9 posted on 04/10/2005 9:02:32 PM PDT by jec41 (Screaming Eagle)
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To: Boundless
Instead, we seem to have a 20-day virus, 99% fatal, and possibly airborne. If so, it has massive pandemic potential, and the official response to date, world-wide, is suicidally inadequate.

Yup.

10 posted on 04/10/2005 9:02:43 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Mother Abigail

BM and BTTT


11 posted on 04/10/2005 9:03:17 PM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: 2ndreconmarine

Thanks


12 posted on 04/10/2005 9:03:56 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Boundless
getting a bit scary - it's been 6 months and it doesn't seem they've been doing much to contain it - like curbing traffic, etc
13 posted on 04/10/2005 9:04:17 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...BUT YOU CAN'T FOOL ALL OF THE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME." Lincoln)
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To: Boundless

Can animals carry it too (sorry I'm not up to date on this)?

Given today's near instant global travel one hopes more than SA are thinking about quarantines and/or travel restrictions.


14 posted on 04/10/2005 9:04:58 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: Mother Abigail

Mother Abigail,

Is this a ping list for the Marburg virus, and if so, may I be on it?

Pretty please?


15 posted on 04/10/2005 9:05:01 PM PDT by scott7278 ("Please disperse...there is nothing to see here.")
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To: Boundless
Instead, we seem to have a 20-day virus, 99% fatal, and possibly airborne. If so, it has massive pandemic potential, and the official response to date, world-wide, is suicidally inadequate.

How did you arrive at airborne?

Hemorrhagic diseases seem to be endemic in Africa; they also seem to affect the less-mobile segments of society; why do you fear the potential for airborne transmission?

16 posted on 04/10/2005 9:05:54 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine

More bad news, it can be passed from person to person during incubation. Sweat is also infectious.


17 posted on 04/10/2005 9:07:07 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: maine-iac7

If it were easily spread, there would likely be over 18,000 cases in 6 months.


18 posted on 04/10/2005 9:07:34 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: Old Professer

The real problem isn't so much the disease (except for those directly involved.) The problem is the lack of vector identification. Were the vector know, one could give advice about what to avoid.

In the hanta virus outbreak here in northern NM (land of the flea, home of the plague), within a week, the virus was identified, and the main transmission vector (breathing dried mouse urine) was noted. Now people take precautions and there are few cases. (Spraying a woodpile with a weak Chlorox solution isn't a bad idea; neither is washing barn floors, etc. with the same.)


19 posted on 04/10/2005 9:12:34 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Mother Abigail; Judith Anne

Does anyone have a ping list for these Marburg / Infectious disease threads??

If so, I would love to be included.

Thanks


20 posted on 04/10/2005 9:13:21 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Old Professer

>> ... we seem to have a 20-day virus, 99% fatal,
>> and possibly airborne.

> How did you arrive at airborne?

I didn't. I saw the question raised in:
Marburg Spread Inside and Outside Angola
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1380939/posts


21 posted on 04/10/2005 9:14:09 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Judith Anne
More bad news, it can be passed from person to person during incubation. Sweat is also infectious.

Indeed.

I read that on previous threads. And, even more bad news, it is possible that this is airborne. Finally, anyone can travel from any land point on the globe to any other land point on the globe (sans the polar regions) in 24 hours.

This situation bears watching closely.

Curiously, I have not seen it on MSM. Thank God for FreeRepublic!!

22 posted on 04/10/2005 9:15:29 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Boundless

Aerosol droplet dispersal--sneezes and coughs--are as bad as airborne, imho.


23 posted on 04/10/2005 9:16:36 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Mother Abigail

Between this and the avian influenza in Asia........it is hard to keep track.

It is obvious that some people are trying to start paying attention.


24 posted on 04/10/2005 9:17:41 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine
Curiously, I have not seen it on MSM.

That is a major part of the problem for the rest of the world.

25 posted on 04/10/2005 9:19:48 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Mother Abigail

Bump


26 posted on 04/10/2005 9:19:50 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: Boundless

You mean 88% fatal.


27 posted on 04/10/2005 9:25:25 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Old Professer
In January there were 20 cases
31 in February,
75 in March. 

In the first 6 days of April there were 74

In the last four days our level of confidence in all data has fell to the point of unreliable.


The case fatality rate remains at or near 100%. 

MA
28 posted on 04/10/2005 9:25:52 PM PDT by Mother Abigail
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Judith Anne; Mother Abigail; Dog Gone
After being attacked by local Uige residents in Angola, WHO (World Health Organization) is now working again with three teams. Work had been suspended for a couple of days as a result of the attack.

Uige residents attacked members of the WHO team because they thought the team members were spreading the Marburg virus. WHO reports that 200 people have been found to be infected - of which 184 have died.

WHO is implementing an educational program aimed at prevent any further attacks - the program will hopefully help stop the spread of the virus.

Authorities are very concerned about this outbreak as it is taking place in an area with a high density of people (Uige). The chances of a virus spreading rapidly are much greater when there are lots of people around. If infected people start travelling around the possibility of a more widespread outbreak is much greater.

source:

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/newssearch.php

29 posted on 04/10/2005 9:27:06 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: Mother Abigail

Why aren't people giving the exact number when it's provided in the very first sentence of the article? The case fatalitity rate is not at or near 100%; the case fatality rate is 88%.


30 posted on 04/10/2005 9:30:09 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Diogenesis; EBH; Heatseeker; EternalHope

ping


31 posted on 04/10/2005 9:32:40 PM PDT by Covenantor
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To: AntiGuv
The case fatalitity rate is not at or near 100%;

Even at 88% that is pretty darn near.

32 posted on 04/10/2005 9:32:58 PM PDT by Gabz (John Paul II, pray for us.)
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To: Mother Abigail

Yet the rate of infection remains arithmetic.


33 posted on 04/10/2005 9:33:53 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: AntiGuv; Mother Abigail
Why aren't people giving the exact number when it's provided in the very first sentence of the article? The case fatalitity rate is not at or near 100%; the case fatality rate is 88%.

I believe the answer is that different people are at different stages of infection. Those at an earlier stage of infection haven't died, yet. Sorry, this seems so morbid.

34 posted on 04/10/2005 9:34:05 PM PDT by 2ndreconmarine
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To: Covenantor

There have now been reports of Marburg in four areas in Angola, in the Congo, in South Africa, in the capital of Angola (Luanda) which has an international airport, with direct flights to Houston.

There are also nine people in 21 day isolation quarantine in Italy. There is no report anywhere of their status.

Admitted case numbers are 213 with 17 healthcare workers dead. No one knows how many cases there actually are, WHO is speculating that there are twice as many, but I doubt they have any idea.


35 posted on 04/10/2005 9:36:08 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: Gabz

I just don't like fuzzy math. :)


36 posted on 04/10/2005 9:36:55 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: 1066AD
Can animals carry it too (sorry I'm not up to date on this)?

Unknown.

37 posted on 04/10/2005 9:37:06 PM PDT by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: 2ndreconmarine

That may be true, but the case fatality rate at this point is nonetheless 88%.


38 posted on 04/10/2005 9:37:30 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AntiGuv

Until there are any who have recovered from this, we do not actually know the case fatality rate. To put it another way, no one has yet survived.


39 posted on 04/10/2005 9:38:00 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: AntiGuv


Why aren't people giving the exact number when it's provided in the very first sentence of the article? The case fatalitity rate is not at or near 100%; the case fatality rate is 88%




Because we are trying to tell you the truth.

The 88% is because new cases are being found faster than they can die.

This is a very bad bug, and it is` killing everything it touches.

I wish it were not so..

MA


40 posted on 04/10/2005 9:38:03 PM PDT by Mother Abigail
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To: AntiGuv

The big question is how many have recovered?

That number appears to be zero.


41 posted on 04/10/2005 9:38:22 PM PDT by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: Boundless

Transport by aircraft is not airborne transmission; it is simply a modern vector for distant contact.


42 posted on 04/10/2005 9:38:44 PM PDT by Old Professer (As darkness is the absence of light, evil is the absence of good; innocence is blind.)
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To: null and void

Bats are thought to carry it.

Here's my conjecture, that I've seen elsewhere: Bats eating insects off fruit, leaving the virus in urine. Child picks and eats fruit, becomes infected.


43 posted on 04/10/2005 9:39:24 PM PDT by Judith Anne (Thank you St. Jude for favors granted.)
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To: null and void; 1066AD

Yes. Monkeys are the Marburg vector.


44 posted on 04/10/2005 9:40:00 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Old Professer
If it were easily spread, there would likely be over 18,000 cases in 6 months

Well I didn't want to ask a dumb question, but 218 people in 6 months over such a wide area hardly seems like panic proportions. I'm thinking more along the same lines as you are, unless I'm missing something.

45 posted on 04/10/2005 9:40:17 PM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Will work for cool tag line.)
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To: Judith Anne

That makes as much sense as any theory I've heard.


46 posted on 04/10/2005 9:40:29 PM PDT by null and void (innocent, incapacitated, inconvenient, and insured - a lethal combination for Terri...)
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To: Judith Anne; null and void; 1066AD

Oh, yeah. Bats too. Slipped my mind.


47 posted on 04/10/2005 9:41:12 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Mother Abigail
BTT. There is no doubt as to the virus's fatality rate; what is now at question is how communicable it is. I'm afraid we're about to find out.

I do note the 17 health-care workers who have given their lives. Even as ill-equipped as they are, that has to give us a clue that this one is really, really nasty.

48 posted on 04/10/2005 9:42:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: AntiGuv

> You mean 88% fatal.

It depends on which report we rely on, but in any event,
it's not the 23-25% the CDC is showing. With the
collapse of case management in Angola, it may be some
time before a reliable figure emerges. And that's part
of the problem there, as the local population is convinced
it's a 100% fatal disease, and is panicking accordingly.

But the disparity between the CDC figures and even the
lowest of the field numbers makes me think that this is
not the Marburg of yore. Perhaps it's a new strain,
although I'm not a subscriber to fringe theories that
it's some wild new avian cross.

I do tend to agree with one observation here, which is
that is this is a strain that's long incubation, 100%
fatal, and airborne transmissible, infection rates would
be expected to be dramatically higher than have been seen
so far. Puzzles abound.


49 posted on 04/10/2005 9:43:26 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Judith Anne
Admitted case numbers are 213 with 17 health-care workers dead. No one knows how many cases there actually are, WHO is speculating that there are twice as many, but I doubt they have any idea.

Excellent point. With the WHO teams out of the Uige area for even a day or two there's a lag in the data. Transmission through the administrative pipeline and waits for confirming lab results contribute in part/ I don't think that WHO or CDC or Medecins sans Frontieres were prepared for this rapid spread,nor could they have been based on the history of Marburg. And this strain very definitely is something different.

50 posted on 04/10/2005 9:43:40 PM PDT by Covenantor
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