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Mark Steyn: Euro-Ruled Britain Won't Need a King
The Telegraph ^ | April 12, 2005 | Mark Steyn

Posted on 04/11/2005 4:37:19 PM PDT by quidnunc

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To: Smoote

I want to be wrong. Blair has a moral center and a sense of mission about him, but he is out of step with his own Labor Party, and the Conservatives there seem determined to reject any role for Britain on the world stage.

Even Blair seems awfully anxious to get back to the business of subsuming Britain into Greater Europe.


21 posted on 04/11/2005 5:45:34 PM PDT by marron
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To: gopwinsin04

3 American headlines on page 1?


22 posted on 04/11/2005 5:47:17 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: quidnunc
But of course Christianity in general and the pope in particular are easy targets for cheap shots because no Christian is going to walk up behind you and cut your throat for the crime of blasphemy.

I would be curious to see a poll in Britain and in mainland Europe as to whether Christians or muslims are the greater threat.

23 posted on 04/11/2005 5:51:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: Tribune7

I want to know where Joan Kennedy was found in the gutter! Enquiring minds need to know...


24 posted on 04/11/2005 5:51:58 PM PDT by gopwinsin04
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To: gopwinsin04

And I didn't know about the O. J. confession.


25 posted on 04/11/2005 5:54:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: marron

Given that a British conservative here on FR had said from their viewpoint, the American conservatives look only a minute degree to the left of Genghis Khan, and various leftist and conservative papers in Britain both report British as a whole has high suspicion of America's "serious Christianity", I would imagine they would view real Christianity as a greater threat than Islam.

This would be even more so in Europe - France is the ultimate ACLU country.


26 posted on 04/11/2005 5:57:23 PM PDT by NZerFromHK ("US libs...hypocritical, naive, pompous...if US falls it will be because of these" - Tao Kit (HK))
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To: marron
I would be curious to see a poll in Britain and in mainland Europe as to whether Christians or muslims are the greater threat.

I believe Muslims would easily win that race. Of course were you to include the USA as a choice for who is the greater threat I'm sure that we would win hands down.

27 posted on 04/11/2005 6:03:37 PM PDT by Smoote
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To: Smoote

28 posted on 04/11/2005 6:05:56 PM PDT by FreedomFarmer (Socialism is not an ideology, it is a disease. Eliminate the vectors.)
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To: Eva
----rejecting Traditional Culture---

I Fear that You "Have It Right!!"

Without our Traditional Past, we Cast ourselves "Adrift"; we Forget our Origins, & can, therefore, not Chart a course for our Future!

Doc

29 posted on 04/11/2005 6:25:01 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Dog Gone

Bump!


30 posted on 04/11/2005 7:14:58 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: quidnunc
But of course Christianity in general and the pope in particular are easy targets for cheap shots because no Christian is going to walk up behind you and cut your throat for the crime of blasphemy.

so far no Ayatollah has sent agents to attempt the assaination of an English Monarch. Actions have consequences, and the English have sense of history.

By and large it seems that the Brits are unrelentingly politically-correcte to berks.

Et Dona Ferentes

31 posted on 04/11/2005 7:22:48 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (South Park Monarchist)
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To: Oztrich Boy
OK Sport, here you go.

This is the Polly Toynbee column that Pollard was so effusive about:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1381805/posts

32 posted on 04/11/2005 7:51:54 PM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: quidnunc
This is the Polly Toynbee column that Pollard was so effusive about:

I liked it too. I might not agree with every position she has, but I understand contempt for the cult of celebrity.

33 posted on 04/11/2005 8:15:58 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (South Park Monarchist)
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To: Dog Gone
There's a palpable feeling that the decisions on these things are made elsewhere: you could vote in the biggest Tory majority in history to clamp down on immigration fraud, and Osama and Mullah Omar would still be living on welfare in a council flat in Tottenham and jumping ahead of you on the hip surgery waiting list, and there's nothing Her Majesty's Government could do about it.

What a stinkin' riot of a paragraph.

34 posted on 04/11/2005 8:19:47 PM PDT by TexasNative2000 (When it's all said and done, someone starts another conversation.......)
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To: Smoote
If Rowan Atkinson is attending your wedding than what point is there to having any sort of dress code whatsoever? Rowan's attendance itself speaks volumes as to just how interested you were in having a solemn dignified affair. What? What?

Blackadder at the royal wedding! LOL Picturing it makes me laugh!

35 posted on 04/11/2005 8:22:21 PM PDT by FierceDraka (The Democratic Party - Aiding and Abetting The Enemies of America Since 1968)
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To: FierceDraka

From what I've been reading I'd rather have Rowan Atkinson at my wedding than Rowan Williams. Mr. Bean has more character and moral courage than the craven Archbishop of Canterbury.


36 posted on 04/11/2005 9:41:53 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: marron
the Conservatives there seem determined to reject any role for Britain on the world stage

in what way? I live in the UK, and I've heard nothing that would suggest this. Quite the contrary, in fact.
37 posted on 04/12/2005 1:01:02 AM PDT by pau1f0rd (Lord God have mercy)
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To: Doc On The Bay

The bigger problem is that as modern liberals reject traditional culture, they are replacing it with nothing, leaving a huge void. Rap music and offensive art doesn't pass as culture. Pop culture is no culture at all. What is happening to society is exactly what was directed in those old communist goals that were read into the congressional record in the sixties, and our public schools have been the tool to achieve this particular goal.


38 posted on 04/12/2005 7:55:17 AM PDT by Eva
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For one or two generations, our "Public School Teachers" have been "Graduates of" "Teachers' Colleges."

The BEST teachers, who studied the "Subject Matter," (English, History, Mathematics, Geography) were SUMMARILY REJECTED from "Teaching" because they didn't have the "Requisite 'Education Credits.'"

Our Problem Is--That the "Teacher's College Graduates" are WOEFULLY IGNORANT of the "Subject Matter;" AND The Students KNOW THIS!!

Our Students NEED an ENGLISH PROFESSOR to teach them--NOT a Generic "Educator," who doesn't know Shaw from Shakespeare!!

"Education Theory" Be Damned--Students ALWAYS "Learn Better" from an Individual who Loves his Subject Matter, than fom an "Education Technocrat"(Taught HOW to "Teach,"-But NOT WHAT to Teach!)

"Teachers' Colleges" have been a FLAMING DISASTER!!

"English" should be taught by "English Majors;" "History" should be taught by "History Majors; "Math" should be taught by "Math Majors!"

"Teacher's Colleges" should offer Supplemental Courses in "Education Theory" for Educators who feel they are having a problem "Getting Through to" refractory Students.

ALL the "Theory" in the World will NOT allow you to teach a Subject that you DON'T KNOW!!

HOW, on Earth, did we Forget this simple Fact??

Doc

39 posted on 04/12/2005 5:07:19 PM PDT by Doc On The Bay
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To: Doc On The Bay

While agree that teaching classes can be a waste of time, I don't think that teacher's colleges are all a waste of time. Most of the state schools in PA were teacher's colleges and before that, they were normal schools. PA had one of the most extensive state college systems in the country, when I was in school there.

I think that the real culprit in the public school system is the teachers' union. The quality of public school education is inversely proportionate to the growth of the NEA. I have a proposal for year around schools, with two tiers of teachers, a professional level and a union level. The professional level would not require teaching credentials, but would have other requirements and would work a professional year around schedule. Of course the professionals would get paid more than the union level.


40 posted on 04/12/2005 5:48:29 PM PDT by Eva
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